"Three Minds in a Can"

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"Three",

I posted a question, "Windows Classic Style", on
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general on 7-17 at 7:21 A.M.
You posted an answer at 9:31 A.M. I thank you for
responding but there's some problem with your posting. I
see the title and your name in my web browser based view,
but no message. It shows "Message unavailable". I do not
see your posting at all in Outlook Express using my NNTP
reader. I've noticed problems with your postings not
showing up in either or both readers several times before.
Are you aware that you have a problem?

Milt
 
I had same problem with him in the web-based NG but its
now cleared in OE NNTP reader. One thing for sure, he
likes to vanish every once in a while...
 
Thanks Danny. This one only shows up in web browser and not in NNTP at all.
I've seen his posts both ways.

Milt
 
from the wonderful said:
Thanks Danny. This one only shows up in web browser and not in NNTP at all.
I've seen his posts both ways.

Milt
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Thanks to Danny for replying/explaining. =I= don't have a problem, =MS=
has a problem with their CDO reader (it can't find any of my messages),
which means it isn't RFC compliant.

If any of my messages do show up in the CDO reader, they are fake (check
the newsreader quoted in the headers .. I doubt any faker is running
what I am. 8>.)

Normally I filter out all the questions posted through CDO, since I know
my replies won't get back to the Original poster, and will just confuse
them - occasionally I slip up!
 
Well, "Three", this time I can see your message in NNTP but I only see
Subject line in web browser. Anyhow, I've learned about "RFC" and "CDO",
neither of which I had ever heard of before. Could you please tell me why
you have these problems. I figure if I learn enough I might become
dangerous.

Thanks,
Milt
 
Milt said:
Well, "Three", this time I can see your message in NNTP but I only see
Subject line in web browser. Anyhow, I've learned about "RFC" and
"CDO", neither of which I had ever heard of before. Could you please
tell me why you have these problems. I figure if I learn enough I
might become dangerous.

Thanks,
Milt
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(various snippages) - Well, GSV's posts always show up *beautifully* in
KNode, both in the MS group and in rec.arts.sf.written! So I expect the
problem really lies in the MS web interface (such a bad idea, really).

Cheers,

Malke
 
from the wonderful said:
Well, "Three", this time I can see your message in NNTP but I only see
Subject line in web browser. Anyhow, I've learned about "RFC" and "CDO",
neither of which I had ever heard of before. Could you please tell me why
you have these problems. I figure if I learn enough I might become
dangerous.
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All the messages should make it through to NNTP server(s) - eventually.
I stopped using the msnews server directly during all the problems they
were having a few weeks back, so my replies have to trickle back through
the Usenet network, to get to whatever server you are reading them from
(look like AOL, which could explain a lot!).

I don't know why my posts get special treatment - the MS CDO webreader
does pick up the right msgID (if you look at what page it tries to open,
it matches the msgID you can get via NNTP) but fails miserably to
actually go to that page. I can't see anything obvious I am doing which
other newsreaders can't emulate .. although the fact that I have
different 'from' and 'reply to' addresses may upset it (and I'm not
about to change that).

Maybe MS will figure it out (and fix it) one day. Meantime I guess I'll
have to content myself with replying to the folks who use a real news
reader .. that still leaves several hundred queries a day. 8>.
 
Thanks.

Milt

GSV Three Minds in a Can said:
All the messages should make it through to NNTP server(s) - eventually.
I stopped using the msnews server directly during all the problems they
were having a few weeks back, so my replies have to trickle back through
the Usenet network, to get to whatever server you are reading them from
(look like AOL, which could explain a lot!).

I don't know why my posts get special treatment - the MS CDO webreader
does pick up the right msgID (if you look at what page it tries to open,
it matches the msgID you can get via NNTP) but fails miserably to
actually go to that page. I can't see anything obvious I am doing which
other newsreaders can't emulate .. although the fact that I have
different 'from' and 'reply to' addresses may upset it (and I'm not
about to change that).

Maybe MS will figure it out (and fix it) one day. Meantime I guess I'll
have to content myself with replying to the folks who use a real news
reader .. that still leaves several hundred queries a day. 8>.
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Milt said:
I posted a question, "Windows Classic Style", on
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general on 7-17 at 7:21 A.M.
You posted an answer at 9:31 A.M. I thank you for
responding but there's some problem with your posting. I
see the title and your name in my web browser based view,
but no message. It shows "Message unavailable". I do not
see your posting at all in Outlook Express using my NNTP
reader.
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You will not see his posts if you look with the Web interface. You
ought to if you look with Outlook Express and make sure you connect to
the msnews.microsoft.com server

This arises from some incompatibility between the posting software he
uses and the web interface - and possibly results in them not getting
out onto other ISP servers too.
 
Bitstring <[email protected]>, from the
wonderful person Alex Nichol said:
This arises from some incompatibility between the posting software he
uses and the web interface - and possibly results in them not getting
out onto other ISP servers too.
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I haven't found any servers they don't get out to yet .. they even get
to the MS server, it's just the CDO interface which appears unable to
retrieve them. At least they get to Google, which means I'm not
completely wasting electrons. 8>.
 
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