The ONLY one I use

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Dave

I build and fix PC's everyday and this is the only one I
use and recommend. I have been using this since day 1
and it has the best interface and keeps an eye on
EVERYTHING.
 
See. :-)
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Steve Dodson said:
Yes we do :)

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Andre Da Costa said:
Glad its working great Dave, I know the MSAS Team appreciates your
testimonial. :-)
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"Dave" said:
I build and fix PC's everyday and this is the only one I
use and recommend. I have been using this since day 1
and it has the best interface and keeps an eye on
EVERYTHING.
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I recommend using more than one spyware remover.

I use MSAS first when I clean up an XP computer. It usually removes
more items than Spybot Search & Destroy and Ad-Aware SE Personal can ,
and those programs sometimes hang during the first run.

However, when I run Spybot and AASE after MSAS, they often remove
numerous items that MSAS misses. And I'm not referring to tracking
cookies and data miners.
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One observation that I've made in cleaning some kinds of bugs is that a
repeated scan with Microsoft Antispyware will find more to remove.

An interesting test would be to do the safe mode deep scan with both
Microsoft antispyware and antivirus, repeating both until each scans clean.

Then see what the others come up with. I'm not sure it would be nothing but
cookies, but I'd be surprised if it included anything executable.
 
One observation that I've made in cleaning some kinds of bugs is that a
repeated scan with Microsoft Antispyware will find more to remove.
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That's a good suggestion, Bill. Thanks.
An interesting test would be to do the safe mode deep scan with both
Microsoft antispyware and antivirus, repeating both until each scans clean.

Then see what the others come up with. I'm not sure it would be nothing but
cookies, but I'd be surprised if it included anything executable.
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I'll try to do that the next time I clean up a client's computer,
without running up the bill too much. :-)

With new computers available for under $400, I'm reluctant to charge
more than $150-200 for cleaning up a computer.
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Steve Winograd said:
That's a good suggestion, Bill. Thanks.


I'll try to do that the next time I clean up a client's computer,
without running up the bill too much. :-)

With new computers available for under $400, I'm reluctant to charge
more than $150-200 for cleaning up a computer.
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I fully understand. It'd probably be easiest to do this in a VPN, but I've
certainly not found the time to do such a test.

I don't know what sorts of issues are involved in the "more stuff cleaned
with multiple scans."
Some bugs such as newdotnet may have leftovers after the first cleaning that
are cleanable the second time around. In other cases, perhaps protective
files or processes are removed that then allow others to be detected and
cleaned. I just know I've seen it on real-world machines, and also that
this has been my standard of "clean" when cleaning up a virus infection. It
does take time, though--and it is hard to charge the client for that last
scan that comes up clean.
 
I fully understand. It'd probably be easiest to do this in a VPN, but
I've certainly not found the time to do such a test.
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Steve said:
One observation that I've made in cleaning some kinds of bugs is that a
repeated scan with Microsoft Antispyware will find more to remove.
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That's a good suggestion, Bill. Thanks.

An interesting test would be to do the safe mode deep scan with both
Microsoft antispyware and antivirus, repeating both until each scans clean.

Then see what the others come up with. I'm not sure it would be nothing but
cookies, but I'd be surprised if it included anything executable.
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I'll try to do that the next time I clean up a client's computer,
without running up the bill too much. :-)

With new computers available for under $400, I'm reluctant to charge
more than $150-200 for cleaning up a computer.[/QUOTE]


if they want to replace with a cheap computer :-)

and unless customers want to be buying new computers once a week, they
still have to setup defenses for the new computer. so $400 isn't the
real cost for a clean computer.

I've had little experience with infection. MSAS works only on XP (and 2k
i assume?).

for an old 450MHz computer (with neglected/outdated ad-aware and CA AV +
ZA free v4.x) i used spybot. it got most things (70 or 80 non-mru items)
then ad-aware SE may have found a few more plops of turdware. i can't
recall. i assume reversing the scan sequence would have given similar
"reverse" statistics.

i didn't have time to do more (such as MBSA), besides trying to
lockdown settings (put up defenses within existing settings).
 
if they want to replace with a cheap computer :-)
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Today's cheap computers are better than the old computers that most of
my clients have. :-)
and unless customers want to be buying new computers once a week, they
still have to setup defenses for the new computer. so $400 isn't the
real cost for a clean computer.
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That's a good point. There's also the cost of installing programs on
the new computer and transferring data from the old computer to the
new one.
I've had little experience with infection. MSAS works only on XP (and 2k
i assume?).
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That's right.
for an old 450MHz computer (with neglected/outdated ad-aware and CA AV +
ZA free v4.x) i used spybot. it got most things (70 or 80 non-mru items)
then ad-aware SE may have found a few more plops of turdware. i can't
recall. i assume reversing the scan sequence would have given similar
"reverse" statistics.
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On Win9x computers, I run Ad-Aware SE first, then Spybot. AASE often
finds hundreds of items, then Spybot finds 10-20 more.
i didn't have time to do more (such as MBSA), besides trying to
lockdown settings (put up defenses within existing settings).
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