**The Fading Tests are in***

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It looks like Canon OEM and Illford Classic Pearl is the best overall
combination for Dye ink if you want a picture to last a long time. The 3rd
party inks did not do well. Apparently they are well aware of this issue but
won't fix it because it would double the cost of the ink and most people
won't buy them then.

They tested for Ozone and UV.
 
Knightcrawler said:
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=4465#p4465

It looks like Canon OEM and Illford Classic Pearl is the best overall
combination for Dye ink if you want a picture to last a long time. The 3rd
party inks did not do well. Apparently they are well aware of this issue but
won't fix it because it would double the cost of the ink and most people
won't buy them then.

They tested for Ozone and UV.
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All third party inks are not the same.

In order for your statement to be true you need to amend it to read "The
3rd party inks that were tested, did not do well'.

I don't use any of those inks that were tested.
:-)
Frank
 
Knightcrawler said:
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=4465#p4465

It looks like Canon OEM and Illford Classic Pearl is the best overall
combination for Dye ink if you want a picture to last a long time. The 3rd
party inks did not do well. Apparently they are well aware of this issue but
won't fix it because it would double the cost of the ink and most people
won't buy them then.

They tested for Ozone and UV.
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And the fade tests are immediately tossed out . . .

Nothing that's been rumored before. I haven't seen any fading to speak
of for anything of value I've printed since the 90's that's been put
away, away from light, sun and extreme temperatures. So there's
absolutely no chance I'd buy OEM because of any tests done in someone
else's world.

-Taliesyn
 
Taliesyn said:
And the fade tests are immediately tossed out . . .

Nothing that's been rumored before. I haven't seen any fading to speak
of for anything of value I've printed since the 90's that's been put
away, away from light,
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Sorry, I meant behind glass

-Taliesyn
 
Knightcrawler said:
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=4465#p4465

It looks like Canon OEM and Illford Classic Pearl is the best overall
combination for Dye ink if you want a picture to last a long time. The 3rd
party inks did not do well. Apparently they are well aware of this issue but
won't fix it because it would double the cost of the ink and most people
won't buy them then.

They tested for Ozone and UV.
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One other point: it's obvious that oem ink contains a lot of uv chemical
protections because they don't want to get sued over their claims of xx
number of years of no fading.

If you want to protect your after market prints simply buy a can of
Krylon® Preserve It® aerosol spray which is made specifically for
digital prints. They claim your digital prints will last twice as long
if you use it!
Retail price is $10.06USD per can but can be had for as little as
$5.32USD per can.
Frank
 
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=4465#p4465

It looks like Canon OEM and Illford Classic Pearl is the best overall
combination for Dye ink if you want a picture to last a long time. The 3rd
party inks did not do well. Apparently they are well aware of this issue but
won't fix it because it would double the cost of the ink and most people
won't buy them then.

They tested for Ozone and UV.
Click to expand...
Thank you for sharing that information.
 
I AM SURE THAT COSTCO/KIRKLAND FULL SHEET GLOSSY (?MADE BY ILLFORD)
WOULD ALSO LAST A LONG TIME USING OEM INK. I HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED
FADING IN OVER A YEAR WITH PHOTOS LEFT ON A DESK.
THAT IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE EXCEPT FOR THE RELIGIOUS BIGGOT POSTERS WE HAVE
HERE. NOT ALL OF THE POSTERS BUT WE ALL KNOW WHO THEY ARE.
OF COURSE NOT. THE BIG DEFENDERS OF REFILLING WILL NEVER ADMIT THEY ARE
WRONG. THEY WANT CHEAP AND THEN THEY WANT TO PROFESS IT TO THE WORLD.
MANY OF THEM ARE IN THE BUSINESS OF SELLING THE CRAP SO WHAT CAN YOU DO
ABOUT THAT. THE REST HAVE NO TASTE OR JUDGEMENT AND ARE TOO PROUD TO
ADMIT THEY ARE GETTING SCREWED.

THEY WERE THE ONES WHO WANTED A YUGO BUT COULD NOT AFFORD THAT.
 
Taliesyn said:
Sorry, I meant behind glass

-Taliesyn
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MAYBE WHEN YOU GRADUATE HIGH SCHOOL YOU WILL KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN AND HOW
TO WRITE. HOW ARE YOU DOING IN ENGLISH?
 
measekite said:
MAYBE WHEN YOU GRADUATE HIGH SCHOOL YOU WILL KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN AND HOW
TO WRITE. HOW ARE YOU DOING IN ENGLISH?
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You don't graduate High School, you graduate "from" High School.

I guess when you get there you'll be asking "How did I get this far
speaking only pig-English?" Then you'll remember me, your mentor.

-Taliesyn
 
Taliesyn said:
You don't graduate High School, you graduate "from" High School.
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MAYBE THAT IS YOUR GOAL IN CANADA.
I guess when you get there you'll be asking "How did I get this far
speaking only pig-English?" Then you'll remember me, your mentor.
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A PIG
 
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=4465#p4465

It looks like Canon OEM and Illford Classic Pearl is the best overall
combination for Dye ink if you want a picture to last a long time. The 3rd
party inks did not do well. Apparently they are well aware of this issue but
won't fix it because it would double the cost of the ink and most people
won't buy them then.

They tested for Ozone and UV.
Click to expand...

Am I the only one who thinks the results pages are rather difficult to
read? I was trying to find the results for Epson OEM dyebased ink
(specifically, the ones with the guitar for the R200/300) on the
/Ultra/ Premium Glossy Paper but don't see it. I'm quite impressed by
the quality of my R340 (though it does print a little dark) but Epson
seems to have so many different types of ink that it doesn't put
longevity ratings on the paper. At least not any of the packages I
have.

Epson seems to have a wildly broad range of inks for the consumer
level printers. They all use the same size/type cartridge, so I'm
assuming that all the different types have different ink formulations
inside (other than the obvious dye/DuraBrite/DuraBrite Ultra
difference - there's definitely more than three different types of
cartridges).

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The test did show that it took a lot of abuse to get the 3rd party ink to
fade. Pictures stored in a photo album or behind glass should be ok for
years.

Canon OEM on Illford Classic Pearl ( Swellable ) seems to last as long as
HP's which brings up the question of why Canon isn't using them to ensure
much longer life ?

PS: What 3rd party ink are you using ?
 
Clearly, the Epson pigment inks took them all to shame.

Which Canon ink set is it (on 39)?

Art
 
Knightcrawler said:
The test did show that it took a lot of abuse to get the 3rd party ink to
fade. Pictures stored in a photo album or behind glass should be ok for
years.

Canon OEM on Illford Classic Pearl ( Swellable ) seems to last as long as
HP's which brings up the question of why Canon isn't using them to ensure
much longer life ?

PS: What 3rd party ink are you using ?
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In my Canon's, Hobbicolor.
Frank
 
Knightcrawler said:
The test did show that it took a lot of abuse to get the 3rd party ink to
fade. Pictures stored in a photo album or behind glass should be ok for
years.
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Exactly what I have known for years. There's no absolute reason
for using OEM inks unless their use makes one feel better. :-)

-Taliesyn
 
Taliesyn said:
Exactly what I have known for years. There's no absolute reason
for using OEM inks unless their use makes one feel better. :-)

-Taliesyn
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TO KNOW THINGS FOR YEARS MEANS YOU HAVE TO BE OLD ENOUGH. KEEP GOING TO
HIGH SCHOOL
 
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