The "dailys" and "Full" updates

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Donna B. posted yesterday that the "manual daily" MPAS-FE contained not only
definitions which had not yet been "pushed out" but also a new "engine"
version.

I'm not sure I like the idea of MS releasing a Full Engine Update for
"manual" updates independently of the update "pushed" out thru AU/WU on
Tuesdays and Thursdays.

This seems to imply a scenario where we will be discussing situations or
problems where people have different version numbers for Definitions AND
Engines.

Currently I have the latest version of the Engine and Definitions as of
Thursday (auto update or delta link)

"A" has the "current version" of the Defs as of "Friday" by doing a manual
update and a newer version of the Defs but has the same Engine as me.

"B" has updated Manually on Saturday when the Manual update has not only
still newer Defs but also a New Engine version.

So,

I have Engine "1001" and defs "1501"
"B" has Engine "1001" and defs "1502"
"C" has Engine "1002" and defs "1503"

I can see confusion here.

Also, if I Manually download the "Full w/ New Engine" on Saturday but not
the "Full w/ Just New Defs" on Sun and Mon will AU/WU on Tues still offer me
an "MPas-Delta" when the "Full w/ New Engine" is pushed out by MS using AU/WU?

I will be confused.
(not that that is anything new :) ]

?:-)
Tim
 
This only proves that Ms needs to have a policy of updates. Daily
updates should include only definition files while weekly updates, say
 
If I am not mistaken, MS been doing this "engine" update together with
definition update before thru "pushed".

I doubt you will receive the pushed defs update and engine if you already
have the latest engine and definitions because that's what I noticed here
myself. In one of my system that follows the 'manual, daily defs', AU/WU
don't offer me the defs update which is expected because I already have the
current defs. It will offer only thru AU/WU if I stop following the 'manual,
daily defs' and if the installed 'defs' is older.

Hope this helps :-)
 
Donna: My Windows Defender "About" shows a version number (1.1.1593.0) more
recent thant the version shown on the latest release version (1.1.1592.0)
shown on
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/support/howto/checkversion.mspx. I checked both release versions on 6/18/07 at 10 am EDT.
--
I'm just a poor litle newbie.


Donna Buenaventura said:
If I am not mistaken, MS been doing this "engine" update together with
definition update before thru "pushed".

I doubt you will receive the pushed defs update and engine if you already
have the latest engine and definitions because that's what I noticed here
myself. In one of my system that follows the 'manual, daily defs', AU/WU
don't offer me the defs update which is expected because I already have the
current defs. It will offer only thru AU/WU if I stop following the 'manual,
daily defs' and if the installed 'defs' is older.

Hope this helps :-)
--
Regards,
Donna Buenaventura
http://www.msmvps.com/donna - SecurityFlash
http://cou.dozleng.com - Calendar of Updates


Tim Clark said:
Donna B. posted yesterday that the "manual daily" MPAS-FE contained not only
definitions which had not yet been "pushed out" but also a new "engine"
version.

I'm not sure I like the idea of MS releasing a Full Engine Update for
"manual" updates independently of the update "pushed" out thru AU/WU on
Tuesdays and Thursdays.

This seems to imply a scenario where we will be discussing situations or
problems where people have different version numbers for Definitions AND
Engines.

Currently I have the latest version of the Engine and Definitions as of
Thursday (auto update or delta link)

"A" has the "current version" of the Defs as of "Friday" by doing a manual
update and a newer version of the Defs but has the same Engine as me.

"B" has updated Manually on Saturday when the Manual update has not only
still newer Defs but also a New Engine version.

So,

I have Engine "1001" and defs "1501"
"B" has Engine "1001" and defs "1502"
"C" has Engine "1002" and defs "1503"

I can see confusion here.

Also, if I Manually download the "Full w/ New Engine" on Saturday but not
the "Full w/ Just New Defs" on Sun and Mon will AU/WU on Tues still offer me
an "MPas-Delta" when the "Full w/ New Engine" is pushed out by MS using AU/WU?

I will be confused.
(not that that is anything new :) ]

?:-)
Tim
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Yes, you are using the current Program version of Windows
Defender(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...E7-DA2B-4A6A-AFA4-F7F14E605A0D&displaylang=en)
The said link you've provided has old info and has not been revised by MS.

--
Regards,
Donna Buenaventura
http://www.msmvps.com/donna - SecurityFlash
http://cou.dozleng.com - Calendar of Updates


Newbie said:
Donna: My Windows Defender "About" shows a version number (1.1.1593.0) more
recent thant the version shown on the latest release version (1.1.1592.0)
shown on
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/support/howto/checkversion.mspx. I checked both release versions on 6/18/07 at 10 am EDT.
--
I'm just a poor litle newbie.


Donna Buenaventura said:
If I am not mistaken, MS been doing this "engine" update together with
definition update before thru "pushed".

I doubt you will receive the pushed defs update and engine if you already
have the latest engine and definitions because that's what I noticed here
myself. In one of my system that follows the 'manual, daily defs', AU/WU
don't offer me the defs update which is expected because I already have the
current defs. It will offer only thru AU/WU if I stop following the 'manual,
daily defs' and if the installed 'defs' is older.

Hope this helps :-)
--
Regards,
Donna Buenaventura
http://www.msmvps.com/donna - SecurityFlash
http://cou.dozleng.com - Calendar of Updates


Tim Clark said:
Donna B. posted yesterday that the "manual daily" MPAS-FE contained not only
definitions which had not yet been "pushed out" but also a new "engine"
version.

I'm not sure I like the idea of MS releasing a Full Engine Update for
"manual" updates independently of the update "pushed" out thru AU/WU on
Tuesdays and Thursdays.

This seems to imply a scenario where we will be discussing situations or
problems where people have different version numbers for Definitions AND
Engines.

Currently I have the latest version of the Engine and Definitions as of
Thursday (auto update or delta link)

"A" has the "current version" of the Defs as of "Friday" by doing a manual
update and a newer version of the Defs but has the same Engine as me.

"B" has updated Manually on Saturday when the Manual update has not only
still newer Defs but also a New Engine version.

So,

I have Engine "1001" and defs "1501"
"B" has Engine "1001" and defs "1502"
"C" has Engine "1002" and defs "1503"

I can see confusion here.

Also, if I Manually download the "Full w/ New Engine" on Saturday but not
the "Full w/ Just New Defs" on Sun and Mon will AU/WU on Tues still offer me
an "MPas-Delta" when the "Full w/ New Engine" is pushed out by MS using AU/WU?

I will be confused.
(not that that is anything new :) ]

?:-)
Tim
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