THE BEST KEPT SECRETS OF THE COMPUTER UNDERGROUND

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Remember, you heard this from me first. Installing a backdoor for
future and continued access to your computer system is simple once a
computer system is compromised. Here are the "Malicious Hackers Best
Kept Secrets"!
They install a Trojan Horse which disables your anti-virus and
firewall protection; also, they install a second set of their own
hidden firewall application(s) to protect their Virtual Private
Network(s). The point that I am trying to make is this, you can check
your system for a Backdoor, Trojan Horse, Virus, or Worm until your
blue in the face, you wouldn't find any. The hackers own firewall
application(s) can be installed on your hard drive in a hidden folder
and the only way you would know it's there is by going to your Control
Panel, Folder Options, View, Show All Files and Folders (Windows ME
and earlier).
Windows keeps files and folders hidden by default so you don't make
changes to their important files. You need to View all Files and
Folders on your computer to reveal what malicious hackers have
installed without your knowledge. This will open your eyes and show
you all the files and software applications now sitting on your hard
drive. If you want to learn more about computer security, if you're a
beginner, one avenue is to read-up on configuring your mail and
browsing applications. Google and Yahoo also have Newsgroups and
message boards pertaining to the aforementioned. If utilizing a
Windows platform, do some reading on configuring your Windows Internet
Options both Internet and Local Settings. Also, spend time learning
what applications in Windows are running and on what port they run on.


Tracker
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Helper said:
Remember, you heard this from me first.
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And only you becuase you are clueless and others arent.
Installing a backdoor for
future and continued access to your computer system is simple once a
computer system is compromised. Here are the "Malicious Hackers Best
Kept Secrets"!
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I doubt that one too
They install a Trojan Horse which disables your anti-virus and
firewall protection;
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"They"?? Who's they? Not only did you start a new paragraph here and not
allude to whom "they" refers to.. you were'nt smart enough to realize no
one installs a trojan on anothers machine they way you talk about it.

"They" if you mean "Malicious hackers" don't "Install" Anything.
Usually, when a virus or a trojan is spread it is clicked on by the user
or IE / Outlook execute it automatically - like from Active X or
javascript. Lately, even looking at a picture file. There are no other
people sitting there installing it on someone elses computer. Do others
"learn" you too Debbie?

How do you expect to sell a loaded line of BS full of half truths if you
can't even write like a proper author with good grammar skills?

BTW - the virus or trojan can make your av not pay attention to it and
ignore it. It does not necessairly "disalbe" it. Have you read up on
heuristic anti viruses and signature viruses?
also, they install a second set of their own
hidden firewall application(s) to protect their Virtual Private
Network(s).
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is that a fact? so many pronouns.. so little definition..
The point that I am trying to make is this, you can check
your system for a Backdoor, Trojan Horse, Virus, or Worm until your
blue in the face, you wouldn't find any.
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Evidentally you might not, but the general public probabally would in
comparison to you Debbie.
The hackers own firewall
application(s) can be installed on your hard drive in a hidden folder
and the only way you would know it's there is by going to your Control
Panel, Folder Options, View, Show All Files and Folders (Windows ME
and earlier).
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uhh WTF? That made no sense. Even Spyware and Adware can create its own
proxy or alter a winsock. Are you comparing "they" to the makers of
Adware and Spyware now?
Windows keeps files and folders hidden by default so you don't make
changes to their important files. You need to View all Files and
Folders on your computer to reveal what malicious hackers have
installed without your knowledge.
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Umm.. if all those files were emables by default, you would have people
delteing mportant files left and right because these people would listen
to half baked truths like yours and delte imprtant files. Are you trying
to GET people to break their computers??? Do you know what the stats
are of people with win95 and 3.1 randomly deleting files and having to
have Windows reisntalled (and losing important information along with it)??

This will open your eyes and show
you all the files and software applications now sitting on your hard
drive.
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Well, that would be the point of enabling the viewing of hidden and
system files, wouldn't it? oh ya... DOH!
If you want to learn more about computer security, if you're a
beginner, one avenue is to read-up on configuring your mail and
browsing applications.
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That is a given.. again DOH!

Sigh Tracker. You seem to WANT to lead people to destruction, not keep
people from destructing.

--
Aleeya

Aleeya.net
Where the Girl Stops and the Geekette Begins
http://www.aleeya.net

Don't you wish humans were RFC Compliant?
 
Tracker
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It's been awhile since you have showed on the scene. It looks like it's
going to be a rough winter. What happened to that book?

Duane :)
 
Leythos said:
[snipped same old crap]

Looks like someone got out of the hospital.
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Plus he's not even slightly up to date on how stuff is done. For
instance, one of the things that has been a hacker secret but is
just now starting to surface is...

appinit_dll

It's a fully legit part of Windows and, on the face of it,
doesn't seem malign: all it does is make sure any specified dll
is running (& starts it if necessary) with any/every executable.

Say what?????

In the hands of the right hacker, it's a "poor man's root kit!"

Write your own dll to do whatever you want (hide directories,
files, ports, and registry entries, run services or *servers,*
and on and on, including hiding itself and its registry entries)
and have it started (if not already running) by EVERY executable
courtesy of appinit_dll. That includes, of course, debuggers,
etc. so that the dll(s) loaded by appinit_dll can hide (if coded
to do so) what's happening from any process running on the
machine - even those looking for it!

Just as ADSs had a very long run as a hacker tool (although they
too are technically legit) before virus- checkers, etc. started
to look for them, so appinit_dll and its possibilities are only
now starting to be recognized by a very few outside the
underground. The great mass of the unwashed (including most
sysadmins) are, of course, oblivious to appinit_dll and its
possibilities.

Regards,

PS It can be detected and it can be defeated, of course, but
only if you know you should be looking for it.
 
Leythos spilled my beer when they jumped on the table and proclaimed in
[snipped same old crap]

Looks like someone got out of the hospital.
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Judging by the whois, they moved to AU. :)

NOI
 
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