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Ufit
As in the topis - what'd be the best solution for small office and home as well?
Reasonable price range. Thanks for advices.
Eric
Reasonable price range. Thanks for advices.
Eric
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Henry
Ufit said:As in the topis - what'd be the best solution for small office and home as
well?
Reasonable price range. Thanks for advices.
Eric
I wouldn't recommend a tape but
Large slave hard drive (external or internal) and Acronis TrueImage
software.....
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Bob
I wouldn't recommend a tape but
Large slave hard drive (external or internal) and Acronis TrueImage
software.....
I second both those recommendations but would add that the best way to
go is a removable drive bay for all your HDs, one for the boot drive
and one for the slave drive on the same IDE Channel.
I have had good success with the KINGWIN KF-23-IPF. Three fans keep
the disk at 30C. They cost about $22 each and a spare tray (dual fan)
is $18.
With removeable HDs you can rotate the archive periodically and have
both a disaster recovery and contamination recovery strategy. I use
three identical HDs, one for disaster recovery and one for
contamination recovery, but you can combine them into just one extra
drive.
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Doug Kanter
Henry said:I wouldn't recommend a tape but
Large slave hard drive (external or internal) and Acronis TrueImage
software.....
Why would you not recommend a tape drive?
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Ufit
Yea right.)) Man, try to backup about 10GB per day and when dealing with videoBob said:I second both those recommendations but would add that the best way to
go is a removable drive bay for all your HDs, one for the boot drive
and one for the slave drive on the same IDE Channel.
I have had good success with the KINGWIN KF-23-IPF. Three fans keep
the disk at 30C. They cost about $22 each and a spare tray (dual fan)
is $18.
With removeable HDs you can rotate the archive periodically and have
both a disaster recovery and contamination recovery strategy. I use
three identical HDs, one for disaster recovery and one for
contamination recovery, but you can combine them into just one extra
drive.
it could be about 100GB a day. What - I am gonna buy a harddrive for that?
Tape is $10 HD is $200.
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Doug Kanter
Ufit said:Yea right.)) Man, try to backup about 10GB per day and when dealing with
video
it could be about 100GB a day. What - I am gonna buy a harddrive for that?
Tape is $10 HD is $200.
E
I like tape drives a lot, but are there any which are fast enough to compete
with a hard drive?
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Doug Kanter
Ufit said:Yea right.)) Man, try to backup about 10GB per day and when dealing with
video
it could be about 100GB a day. What - I am gonna buy a harddrive for that?
Tape is $10 HD is $200.
E
More important than my previous question: Are you actually creating 100GB of
***NEW*** data on some days, or does that number take into account today's
work, plus some from yesterday, last week, etc?
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Noozer
I have had good success with the KINGWIN KF-23-IPF. Three fans keep
300GB hard drive is $140... and that's CDN cash, around $100 US. Get two and
swap them every other day.
Yea right.)) Man, try to backup about 10GB per day and when dealing with
video
it could be about 100GB a day. What - I am gonna buy a harddrive for that?
Tape is $10 HD is $200.
300GB hard drive is $140... and that's CDN cash, around $100 US. Get two and
swap them every other day.
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Bob
Why would you not recommend a tape drive?
It depends on you particular need. For huge data archives, tape is the
way to go. Just don't expect to do much with it except full recovery
because sequential access really sucks.
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Doug Kanter
Bob said:It depends on you particular need. For huge data archives, tape is the
way to go. Just don't expect to do much with it except full recovery
because sequential access really sucks.
Well, that's true, to an extent. I was using 2.5 gb tapes for a while, and
if I wanted to recover just one or two files, it took about 5 minutes.
Certainly not as snappy as a hard disk.
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Bennett Price
I think some more info would be helpful.
What operating systems are involved? How much storage is currently in
use and how much data is on it? Roughly how much new data is written
each day (new files or modifications to existing files)? How automated
must the backup process be? Is their a file server or just a bunch of
desktop/laptop machines?
And perhaps most important, do you just want to backup today's data or
do you want to be able to restore a file written two years ago and
subsequently erased? Do you want a real, historical backup or do you
just want a disaster-recovery - my-disk-just-died system?
What operating systems are involved? How much storage is currently in
use and how much data is on it? Roughly how much new data is written
each day (new files or modifications to existing files)? How automated
must the backup process be? Is their a file server or just a bunch of
desktop/laptop machines?
And perhaps most important, do you just want to backup today's data or
do you want to be able to restore a file written two years ago and
subsequently erased? Do you want a real, historical backup or do you
just want a disaster-recovery - my-disk-just-died system?
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Victor Smith
How about some real numbers?Yea right.)) Man, try to backup about 10GB per day and when dealing with video
it could be about 100GB a day. What - I am gonna buy a harddrive for that?
Tape is $10 HD is $200.
E
A ten buck tape holds how much data?
Ten bucks worth of HD holds how much data?
300gb of tapes/cartridges takes up how much physical space compared to
a 300gb HD?
Data transfer to/from tape is like molasses flowing.
Tape media degrades, and tape failure rates are probably greater than
HD failure rates..
And so on.
Pretty hard to justify tape when HD space is so cheap and swappable,
but I suppose somebody can make a case for it.
Businesses sometimes must meet statutory requirements to store data on
offsite tapes, but that doesn't seem to be the case here.
--Vic
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Ufit
Differential backup is considered. Data will not be restored frequently but justBennett Price said:I think some more info would be helpful.
What operating systems are involved? How much storage is currently in
use and how much data is on it? Roughly how much new data is written
each day (new files or modifications to existing files)? How automated
must the backup process be? Is their a file server or just a bunch of
desktop/laptop machines?
And perhaps most important, do you just want to backup today's data or
do you want to be able to restore a file written two years ago and
subsequently erased? Do you want a real, historical backup or do you
just want a disaster-recovery - my-disk-just-died system?
in case of disaster failure. OS 2003server. HDs are out of the question.
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Bob
Well, that's true, to an extent. I was using 2.5 gb tapes for a while, and
if I wanted to recover just one or two files, it took about 5 minutes.
Certainly not as snappy as a hard disk.
Just how much data do you want to put on one tape?
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Bob
Differential backup is considered.
Agreed. Much more economical, but unless you keep a few of the most
recent ones, you will not be able to recover from HD contamination.
Data will not be restored frequently but just
in case of disaster failure.
You still need one full backup.
OS 2003server. HDs are out of the question.
Why? How much storage is required?
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Doug Kanter
Bob said:Just how much data do you want to put on one tape?
I already have a solution. Hopefully, the OP will notice this question,
though.
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Bennett Price
Some initial questions remain - how much storage do you need? How fast
(are your users 24/7 - how many hours a day are user/db files closed and
thus capable of backup.) Once these questions are answered you can
start to figure out which tape technology is appropriate. If you don't
need to restore a file accidently erased 2 years ago you can also
consider a network storage hard drive or even mirroring your current
drive(s?).
(are your users 24/7 - how many hours a day are user/db files closed and
thus capable of backup.) Once these questions are answered you can
start to figure out which tape technology is appropriate. If you don't
need to restore a file accidently erased 2 years ago you can also
consider a network storage hard drive or even mirroring your current
drive(s?).