Tale of Two Domains

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I have two domains set up seperately in the our org. and I cannot get them to trust each other.
Please could someone help in this regards
When I try to connect to either domain from the other I get a Logon Attempt Failure - Why is this
 
What is the operating system of the domain controllers? What are you using
for name resolution? What is the exact error you get when trying to set up
the trust in either direction? Is there a firewall between the domains?

Best Regards,

Kristin Thomas, MCSE, MCP
Microsoft Enterprise Network Support

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| Thread-Topic: Tale of Two Domains
| thread-index: AcQMF4uFOefvCvUQQWClTx8arNbF0w==
| X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.win2000.networking
| From: "=?Utf-8?B?R3JhaGFtIEZsZWlzY2hlcg==?="
<[email protected]>
| Subject: Tale of Two Domains
| Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:01:13 -0800

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| I have two domains set up seperately in the our org. and I cannot get
them to trust each other.
Please could someone help in this regards.
When I try to connect to either domain from the other I get a Logon Attempt
Failure - Why is this?


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I have two domains set up seperately in the our org. and I cannot get them to trust each other.
Please could someone help in this regards.

Possibly, if you provide enough information to do so. Starting with
telling us the operating system and whether or not these are Active
Directory might help for example.
When I try to connect to either domain from the other I get a Logon Attempt Failure - Why is this?

Because you didn't properly configure the trust. Have you followed
the information in the Help section on this?

Jeff
 
Sorry about the ambiguity - I am not used to posting
We are running Windows 2000 Server SP4 on both machines - both are setup as seperate DC's and have seperate Domain names ie. Both running as PDC's - When trying to connect to the domain controller through Domains and Trusts the error that appears is "The domain controller ... was not validated because: Logon Attempt Failed" this is when I use the fully quilified domain name ie. example.microsoft.com. When I just use the server name unquilified ie.example this error appears "The configuration information describing this enterprise is not available. The logon attempt failed

Thanks
Graham
 
Sorry about the ambiguity - I am not used to posting.
We are running Windows 2000 Server SP4 on both machines - both are setup as seperate DC's and have seperate Domain names ie. Both running as PDC's - When trying to connect to the domain controller through Domains and Trusts the error that appears is "The domain controller ... was not validated because: Logon Attempt Failed" this is when I use the fully quilified domain name ie. example.microsoft.com. When I just use the server name unquilified ie.example this error appears "The configuration information describing this enterprise is not available. The logon attempt failed"

Thanks,
Graham
 
Thanks for the further information, Graham. When you go to the properties
of your domain within Domains and Trusts on the Trusts tab, do you have the
other domain listed in both boxes indicating that it's a trusted and
trusting domain? If you remove them and try to re-establish the trust,
what happens?

Best Regards,

Kristin Thomas, MCSE, MCP
Microsoft Enterprise Network Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

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| Thread-Topic: Tale of Two Domains
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| X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.win2000.networking
| From: "=?Utf-8?B?R3JhaGFtIEZsZWlzY2hlcg==?="
<[email protected]>
| References: <[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
| Subject: RE: Tale of Two Domains
| Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 21:21:10 -0800

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| Sorry about the ambiguity - I am not used to posting.
We are running Windows 2000 Server SP4 on both machines - both are setup as
seperate DC's and have seperate Domain names ie. Both running as PDC's -
When trying to connect to the domain controller through Domains and Trusts
the error that appears is "The domain controller ... was not validated
because: Logon Attempt Failed" this is when I use the fully quilified
domain name ie. example.microsoft.com. When I just use the server name
unquilified ie.example this error appears "The configuration information
describing this enterprise is not available. The logon attempt failed"

Thanks,
Graham
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Still does the same thing - our settings are as follows and we have tried different combinations
The one system is as follows
Computer Name: SERVE
DNS Host Name: SERVER.DHS.ORG.Z
DNS Domain Name: DHS.ORG.Z
System info : Windows 2000 Server (Build 2195
The other older system i
Computer Name: DH
DNS Host Name: DHS.DURBANHIGHSCHOOL.CO.Z
DNS Domain Name: DURBANHIGHSCHOOL.CO.Z
System info : Windows 2000 Server (Build 2195

Server we assigned an IP of 192.168.0.10
DHS we assigned an IP of 196.168.0.10

The servers failed to see each other under these conditions and would not connect via Domains & Trust
We then tried putting them on the same IP range Server: 196.168.0.101 & DHS: 196.168.0.10
Still this did not help but at least they could see each other and the shares. I have installed all components such as dns and wins and set them up using default settings - have I done something wrong in these possibly? What components are necessary to establish a trust relationship successfully? On both computers the subnet is 255.255.255.0; the gateway is 196.168.0.200; and the DNS is our service provider 196.22.196.3 could there be a problem with one of these settings
We have also been trying to setup group policy on the DHS server without much success and suddenly after installing WINS the other day to solve this problem the Group Policy started to function - was it the WINS that did this? Could this be a symptom of a larger config problem? I didn't think it would be this difficult to make two servers talk to each other but boy am learning a lot about servers at the same time
I hope that you can help because my brain is somewhat mussshhhy from this
Thanks
Graha
 
Looks like your DNS settings are probably the culprit, you never want to
point your Domain Controllers (or your clients for that matter) to an ISP
for DNS, then you won't have any SRV (Resource DNS Records) registered, you
will be looking to the internet to find your Domain Controllers, this will
cause slow bootups and logins and definitely cause a problem setting up
trusts.

Setting up and configuring DNS resolution in Windows 200x domains is very
important.

1. Verify that you have DNS running on your Windows 2000 Domain Controllers
and that they have a forward lookup zone for their domain. So one would
have a forward lookup zone of DHS.ORG.ZA and the other would have
DURBANHIGHSCHOOL.CO.ZA

2. Point all Network Adapters in the servers to themselves for DNS only and
verify it is registering it's records (not only host records but resource
or srv records in the _msdcs, _sites, _tcp and _udp folders.

3. Create secondary zones for each other and load the zone.

4. If you use DHCP for your clients, configure your DHCP Option 006 DNS
Servers to point to the Domain
Controller for DNS only. So that when your clients obtain an IP address,
they also get the address of the internal DNS server only.

5. Configure Forwarders to your ISP DNS servers inside DNS, on the
properties of the server. This way anything your internal DNS server
doesn't know the IP address of, it can go ask your ISP on behalf of your
clients.

Anything you need to know about DNS but were afraid to ask can be found at
www.microsoft.com/dns. Good luck!

Best Regards,

Kristin Thomas, MCSE, MCP
Microsoft Enterprise Network Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

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| Thread-Topic: Tale of Two Domains
| thread-index: AcQNd5Id8/aOBrABRk+t/Et+3gXAaQ==
| X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.win2000.networking
| From: "=?Utf-8?B?R3JhaGFtIEZsZWlzY2hlcg==?="
<[email protected]>
| References: <[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
| Subject: RE: Tale of Two Domains
| Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 22:01:07 -0800

|
| Still does the same thing - our settings are as follows and we have tried
different combinations:
The one system is as follows:
Computer Name: SERVER
DNS Host Name: SERVER.DHS.ORG.ZA
DNS Domain Name: DHS.ORG.ZA
System info : Windows 2000 Server (Build 2195)
The other older system is
Computer Name: DHS
DNS Host Name: DHS.DURBANHIGHSCHOOL.CO.ZA
DNS Domain Name: DURBANHIGHSCHOOL.CO.ZA
System info : Windows 2000 Server (Build 2195)

Server we assigned an IP of 192.168.0.100
DHS we assigned an IP of 196.168.0.100

The servers failed to see each other under these conditions and would not
connect via Domains & Trusts
We then tried putting them on the same IP range Server: 196.168.0.101 &
DHS: 196.168.0.100
Still this did not help but at least they could see each other and the
shares. I have installed all components such as dns and wins and set them
up using default settings - have I done something wrong in these possibly?
What components are necessary to establish a trust relationship
successfully? On both computers the subnet is 255.255.255.0; the gateway is
196.168.0.200; and the DNS is our service provider 196.22.196.3 could there
be a problem with one of these settings?
We have also been trying to setup group policy on the DHS server without
much success and suddenly after installing WINS the other day to solve this
problem the Group Policy started to function - was it the WINS that did
this? Could this be a symptom of a larger config problem? I didn't think it
would be this difficult to make two servers talk to each other but boy am
learning a lot about servers at the same time!
I hope that you can help because my brain is somewhat mussshhhy from this.
Thanks,
Graham

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