System State Backup

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If I backup the entire system disk do I still need to
back up the system state? Isn't the system state just a
subset of the files on the system drive?
 
If I backup the entire system disk do I still need to
back up the system state? Isn't the system state just a
subset of the files on the system drive?
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To get a complete backup you have to backup all of the system drive plus
system state, otherwise you will not backup core components of the OS.

Leonard Severt

Windows 2000 Server Setup Team
 
If I backup the entire system disk do I still need to
back up the system state? Isn't the system state just a
subset of the files on the system drive?
Click to expand...

To get a complete backup you have to backup all of the system drive plus
system state, otherwise you will not backup core components of the OS.

Leonard Severt

Windows 2000 Server Setup Team
 
In said:
To get a complete backup you have to backup all of the system
drive plus system state, otherwise you will not backup core
components of the OS.
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I agree with the method but hesitate over "complete".

Although possibly academic OP should realize that ntbackup will skip
some files/folders when backing up the "boot" drive by design. I don't
have the details handy but registry "files not to back up" is in play.
AFAIK this does not matter for User Data backups. The most "complete"
"backup" solution is a Disk Image IMO.
 
In said:
To get a complete backup you have to backup all of the system
drive plus system state, otherwise you will not backup core
components of the OS.
Click to expand...

I agree with the method but hesitate over "complete".

Although possibly academic OP should realize that ntbackup will skip
some files/folders when backing up the "boot" drive by design. I don't
have the details handy but registry "files not to back up" is in play.
AFAIK this does not matter for User Data backups. The most "complete"
"backup" solution is a Disk Image IMO.
 
Isn't the bottom line here that Ghost (or equivalent) is the best answer,
rather than anything that ships with W2K, for example?

I've tried the MS solution, and every time been convinced that I'll stick
with Ghost.

pjl
 
Isn't the bottom line here that Ghost (or equivalent) is the best answer,
rather than anything that ships with W2K, for example?

I've tried the MS solution, and every time been convinced that I'll stick
with Ghost.

pjl
 
In said:
Isn't the bottom line here that Ghost (or equivalent) is the best
answer, rather than anything that ships with W2K, for example?

I've tried the MS solution, and every time been convinced that
I'll stick with Ghost.
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Perhaps a mix. I use ntbackup for data files (and the occasional
System State) to be burned to CD. That's for in between disk images
with DI.
 
In said:
Isn't the bottom line here that Ghost (or equivalent) is the best
answer, rather than anything that ships with W2K, for example?

I've tried the MS solution, and every time been convinced that
I'll stick with Ghost.
Click to expand...

Perhaps a mix. I use ntbackup for data files (and the occasional
System State) to be burned to CD. That's for in between disk images
with DI.
 
-----Original Message-----


To get a complete backup you have to backup all of the system drive plus
system state, otherwise you will not backup core components of the OS.

Leonard Severt

Windows 2000 Server Setup Team
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Thanks for the comments. Question - Why are the core
components of the OS not backed up when running a normal
backup of the system drive?
 
-----Original Message-----


To get a complete backup you have to backup all of the system drive plus
system state, otherwise you will not backup core components of the OS.

Leonard Severt

Windows 2000 Server Setup Team
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Thanks for the comments. Question - Why are the core
components of the OS not backed up when running a normal
backup of the system drive?
 
Thanks for the comments. Question: Why doesn't a regular
backup of the system drive backup these core OS files?
 
Thanks for the comments. Question: Why doesn't a regular
backup of the system drive backup these core OS files?
 
Thanks for the comments. Question - Why are the core
components of the OS not backed up when running a normal
backup of the system drive?
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Because the files are in use. When you select System State it backups up
these open files including parts of the registry using a different API
set. Other backup programs use those same API's to backup their own
System State.

Leonard Severt

Windows 2000 Server Setup Team
 
Thanks for the comments. Question - Why are the core
components of the OS not backed up when running a normal
backup of the system drive?
Click to expand...

Because the files are in use. When you select System State it backups up
these open files including parts of the registry using a different API
set. Other backup programs use those same API's to backup their own
System State.

Leonard Severt

Windows 2000 Server Setup Team
 
In my view, use a parallel installed O/S on a different
drive (partition or hard disk), and backup each drive from
the other O/S. This way, all files including system files
are available and are not busy. This is also recommended
for drive defragmentation: apply it from each O/S to the
other drive.
 
In my view, use a parallel installed O/S on a different
drive (partition or hard disk), and backup each drive from
the other O/S. This way, all files including system files
are available and are not busy. This is also recommended
for drive defragmentation: apply it from each O/S to the
other drive.
 
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