System running like crap

[Guest]

After installing Vista on my Alienware(way of the recommended vista
suggestions) my desktop now runs like crap, i have updated the
video/sound/keyboard/mouse drivers. And it seems that non stop Vista is now
calling on my processor, I cant even play BF2142 it lags from the processor
to much and with XP i never had this issue. Any ideas b4 i system restore
till some service packs come out?

 

[Guest]

Fresh install or an upgrade?
How fast is your processor, and how much memory do you have.
Do you have an Nvidia graphics card?
jf

 

[Guest]

After installing Vista on my Alienware(way of the recommended vista
suggestions) my desktop now runs like crap, i have updated the
video/sound/keyboard/mouse drivers. And it seems that non stop Vista is now
calling on my processor, I cant even play BF2142 it lags from the processor
to much and with XP i never had this issue. Any ideas b4 i system restore
till some service packs come out?

Besides offering more specific info about your system that Jimmy asked for,
you must realize that your cpu is being used a lot because it is indexing
your entire system so searches will be faster when you need to find
something. Once most things are indexed your cpu will not be as active, as
it will only need to index new things you store to disk. Having said that,
the indexing behavior should stop or slow when you start to use your
computer.

If you, after a day or two, still suffer lag, you may have a bad driver
installed. You can always do a free driver scan at www.driveragent.com just
to check. And if they are good, perhaps a startup program that does not play
well with others. Have you installed the latest Vista video drivers for your
v-card? The ones that come with Vista are generic, and so, not the best.

 

[Guest]

This was an Upgrade from XP.
System info.
processor: AMD 64-FX 2.8ghz
Memory: 1.2Gig
Video: Geforce 7800 256MB SLI(i know not supported yet)
I got the new nvidia chipset and video card drivers for vista.

 

[Guest]

couldnt figure out to edit. Just like to throw in that i have Fsecure
Security shield 07(antivirus) it's not vista compatable yet. Should i stop it
from booting or just remove it? because it runs in the task manager but not
in the taskbar where it should be.

 

[Mickey Segal]

This was an Upgrade from XP.
System info.
processor: AMD 64-FX 2.8ghz
Memory: 1.2Gig
Video: Geforce 7800 256MB SLI(i know not supported yet)
I got the new nvidia chipset and video card drivers for vista.

Even though you did an upgrade installation you can re-do your installation
as a clean install using your upgrade DVD. That makes a huge difference,
but it trashes everything in Program Files and My Documents. An
intermediate approach is to create a new profile for yourself without doing
a clean install.

 

[Ken Gardner]

Besides offering more specific info about your system that Jimmy asked
for,
you must realize that your cpu is being used a lot because it is indexing
your entire system so searches will be faster when you need to find
something. Once most things are indexed your cpu will not be as active,
as
it will only need to index new things you store to disk. Having said
that,
the indexing behavior should stop or slow when you start to use your
computer.

This may be my very favorite Vista feature. It is what enables me to find a
program or file by typing in a few letters at the start menu (or in various
other places).

As for CPU use, I believe the indexer service runs at low priority. This is
another thing that is great about Vista. It makes so much better use of
idle CPU and RAM than previous versions of Windows. What's the point of
having lots of either if you don't use them? Just as free RAM is wasted
RAM, so is idle CPU time. Even so, these background tasks run at low
priority and, er, in the background.

[...]

Ken

 

[Diamontina Cocktail]

After installing Vista on my Alienware(way of the recommended vista
suggestions) my desktop now runs like crap, i have updated the
video/sound/keyboard/mouse drivers. And it seems that non stop Vista is
now
calling on my processor, I cant even play BF2142 it lags from the
processor
to much and with XP i never had this issue. Any ideas b4 i system restore
till some service packs come out?

You probably are having search index builds going on and that can take a
long time. Try this - turn INDEX SEARCH off, from control panel and then try
again.

Another thing you can do to speed up your machine is go to Computer and then
right click on C drive and go to Properties and then get rid of "Index this
drive for faster searching". It makes a significant difference to any
machine.

 

[Ken Gardner]

You probably are having search index builds going on and that can take a
long time. Try this - turn INDEX SEARCH off, from control panel and then
try again.

Another thing you can do to speed up your machine is go to Computer and
then right click on C drive and go to Properties and then get rid of
"Index this drive for faster searching". It makes a significant difference
to any machine.

This is a very bad idea. The new indexing system is core to Vista. It is
what makes all the new awesome search features work so well.

Performance isn't just about how fast the hardware works. Even more
fundamentally, it is about how fast you can perform a specific task, such as
finding a particular program or file. Computers are for us, not the other
way around.

Ken

 

[Guest]

couldnt figure out to edit. Just like to throw in that i have Fsecure
Security shield 07(antivirus) it's not vista compatable yet. Should i stop it
from booting or just remove it? because it runs in the task manager but not
in the taskbar where it should be.

"Ray" wrote:

Ray,

I would remove it if it where on my computer.

 

[notspecified]

This is a very bad idea. The new indexing system is core to Vista. It is
what makes all the new awesome search features work so well.

Performance isn't just about how fast the hardware works. Even more
fundamentally, it is about how fast you can perform a specific task, such as
finding a particular program or file. Computers are for us, not the other
way around.

Ken

Actually most people don't spend much time "searching" for things on their
computers no matter how awesome the search features are. Most use their
computers to perform tasks using programs that they don't want slowed down by
awesome search features.

I guess if you mainly use your computer to search for things on your computer
then indexing is really awesome, but for me the extra 5-seconds it occasionally
takes for me find something is not bothersome, so I have indexing turned off.

Without indexing turned on I don't think it has ever taken me more than a few
seconds to find a file or program, but then again I don't find myself
constantly searching my computer for files and programs. I guess it depends on
how you use your computer.

 

[Ken Gardner]

I guess if you mainly use your computer to search for things on your
computer
then indexing is really awesome, but for me the extra 5-seconds it
occasionally
takes for me find something is not bothersome, so I have indexing turned
off.

I'm using the indexing feature and I am not experiencing any delay at all.
Nor should it. It runs as a low-priority task in the background. Perhaps
your delays are due to something else.

[...]

Ken

 

[Kevin Young]

I guess if you mainly use your computer to search for things on your
computer
then indexing is really awesome, but for me the extra 5-seconds it
occasionally
takes for me find something is not bothersome, so I have indexing turned
off.

I'm using the indexing feature and I am not experiencing any delay at all.
Nor should it. It runs as a low-priority task in the background.
Perhaps your delays are due to something else.

[...]

Ken

Actually Ken, I added a 1.5 GB email archive to my machine this afternoon
and it has been indexing it ever since and I have a noticeable performance
hit. I expected it though and performance will return once the indexing is
completed. For me the search capabilities are worth the temporary
performance hit.

Not specified, you can adjust your indexing settings to index less or leave
your machine on indexing over night. It does eventually finish indexing and
in my experience normal performance returns once the indexing is done.

 

[Diamontina Cocktail]

This is a very bad idea. The new indexing system is core to Vista. It is

It is only a very bad idea if you dont understand.

Stopping index searching makes a significant speed increase to the use of
your machine. Now if you dont think that is worth it, fine but it certainly
is no reason to call a great improvement to the machine a "bad idea".

what makes all the new awesome search features work so well.

Indexing slows the machine and the amount of time you do searches that take
advantage of indexing as opposed to just use the machine is about 1% of the
time. So 1% of the time you get an advantage. Your searches will be slower
by turning it off and your machine will be faster as a result. IMHO, it is a
bad idea NOT to turn indexing off.

 

[Diamontina Cocktail]

Actually most people don't spend much time "searching" for things on their
computers no matter how awesome the search features are. Most use their
computers to perform tasks using programs that they don't want slowed down
by
awesome search features.

I guess if you mainly use your computer to search for things on your
computer
then indexing is really awesome, but for me the extra 5-seconds it
occasionally
takes for me find something is not bothersome, so I have indexing turned
off.

Without indexing turned on I don't think it has ever taken me more than a
few
seconds to find a file or program, but then again I don't find myself
constantly searching my computer for files and programs. I guess it
depends on
how you use your computer.

The interesting thing here is that I had indexing turned off on XP and it
was back on again when I upgraded to Vista, after that completed. So, many
people may be caught with it on and not know it.

 

[Diamontina Cocktail]

I'm using the indexing feature and I am not experiencing any delay at all.

If you dont turn indexing off, how could you honestly KNOW?

Nor should it. It runs as a low-priority task in the background.
Perhaps your delays are due to something else.

Makes no difference what it SHOULD do, indexing MARKEDLY slows ANY machine
down and it is a rather useless feature EXCEPT when searching. How often do
you want to search your computer? It isn't often for me and turning indexing
off MARKEDLY improves performance. You only have to turn it off to notice.

 

[Diamontina Cocktail]

I guess if you mainly use your computer to search for things on your
computer
then indexing is really awesome, but for me the extra 5-seconds it
occasionally
takes for me find something is not bothersome, so I have indexing turned
off.

I'm using the indexing feature and I am not experiencing any delay at
all. Nor should it. It runs as a low-priority task in the background.
Perhaps your delays are due to something else.

[...]

Ken

Actually Ken, I added a 1.5 GB email archive to my machine this afternoon
and it has been indexing it ever since and I have a noticeable performance
hit. I expected it though and performance will return once the indexing
is completed. For me the search capabilities are worth the temporary
performance hit.

Not specified, you can adjust your indexing settings to index less or
leave your machine on indexing over night. It does eventually finish
indexing and in my experience normal performance returns once the indexing
is done.

Sorry, no it doesn't. Indexes are built originally and sure that DOES hit
enormously but when it is finished and done, it still continues. Every
change you make on your machine makes a change in indexing so it is
constantly doing something. Turning indexing off will show you how it DOES
make a performance difference that is instantly noticed.

 

[Ken Gardner]

Makes no difference what it SHOULD do, indexing MARKEDLY slows ANY machine
down and it is a rather useless feature EXCEPT when searching. How often
do you want to search your computer? It isn't often for me and turning
indexing off MARKEDLY improves performance. You only have to turn it off
to notice.

Not my machine. It runs like a bat out of hell with indexing and it runs
like a bat out of hell without indexing. And indexing always takes place in
the background anyway. What the heck is it slowing down, other than the
machine doing little or nothing anyway during idle time.

Ken

 

[Ken Gardner]

It is only a very bad idea if you dont understand.

Stopping index searching makes a significant speed increase to the use of
your machine. Now if you dont think that is worth it, fine but it
certainly is no reason to call a great improvement to the machine a "bad
idea".

If you need to turn off Vista indexing to speed up your machine, a much
better solution is simply to get a better machine.

And besides, you can measure speed in lots of way. I have lots of Word
documents on my computer. I love being able to type in a few letters at the
start menu and instantly find a particular file that may be nested somewhere
deep in Windows Explorer.

Indexing slows the machine and the amount of time you do searches that
take advantage of indexing as opposed to just use the machine is about 1%
of the time.

Not for me it isn't. I use it pretty much 100 percent of the time that I
want to run a program or open a file that isn't already associated with a
keyboard shortcut. I use it when running Windows Medi Player to find a
particular piece of music instantly from hundreds of tracks. I use it in
this newsgroup to find topics that I am most interested in. Vista has made
me much faster at the computer, and it is due almost entirely to the new
indexing system.

So 1% of the time you get an advantage. Your searches will be slower by
turning it off and your machine will be faster as a result. IMHO, it is a
bad idea NOT to turn indexing off.

Well, if you like doing lots of keystrokes and mouseclicks to find your
stuff (plus having to remember exactly where it is), then I agree that
indexing is not for you.

Ken

 

[Diamontina Cocktail]

If you need to turn off Vista indexing to speed up your machine, a much
better solution is simply to get a better machine.

Every machine performas better with it off so getting a better machine wont
make any difference.