System restore question

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Stan Pierce

When I try to do a System Restore, it shows a number of times where
there are restore points. Yet, when I try some of these, noine of them
works. Is this normal? Am I supposed to use only the most recent restore
point?

Thanks
Stan
 
No! Use any one you wish. If early ones fail go back a week or so. If no go,
go back a couple of weeks etc.
 
Hi Stan,

No, this is not normal.

Let's see if System Restore will function in Safe Mode.

Boot into Safe Mode and perform a test restore using the following link.
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/tips.html#3

How to starting Windows XP in Safe Mode:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/safemode.html

If there are any Norton applications installed, take a look at this page.
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/symantecdoc1.html

Here are some more troubleshooting steps to take when System Restore fails
to restore:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/srfail.html

The Event Viewer can sometimes be helpful in tracking down errors.
Using the Event Viewer to troubleshoot System Restore errors:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/source.html

Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org
 
In
Stan Pierce said:
When I try to do a System Restore, it shows a number of times
where
there are restore points. Yet, when I try some of these,
noine of them
works. Is this normal? Am I supposed to use only the most
recent restore
point?

Thanks
Stan
Click to expand...

Any Symantec products installed on your computer?

Message: "Restoration Incomplete. Your computer cannot be
restored . . . " when you run Windows System Restore
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/sharedtech.nsf/0/c7a9848df95596b9882570c900605bf5?OpenDocument

It's also possible that your restore points are corrupted. When
that happens there is on recourse other than to turn off System
Restore to delete all restore points, reboot the computer, and
turn System Restore back on.

Good luck

Nepatsfan
 
It is perfectly normal if the computer is creating infected restore points.
He/she could have several bad restore points. Going back two weeks or so may
solve the problem.
 
Having an infected system is not normal.

And going back two weeks can easily cause more problem than it solves.

If System Restore functions in Safe Mode, (which most of the time is does)
then there would be no need to go back that far.

Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org
 
Nepatsfan

Aren't there other programmes that prevent restoration? I don't think
Symamntec / Norton are the only software providers creating this
problem.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
Nepatsfan said:
In

Any Symantec products installed on your computer?

Message: "Restoration Incomplete. Your computer cannot be
restored . . . " when you run Windows System Restore
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/sharedtech.nsf/0/c7a9848df95596b9882570c900605bf5?OpenDocument

It's also possible that your restore points are corrupted. When
that happens there is on recourse other than to turn off System
Restore to delete all restore points, reboot the computer, and
turn System Restore back on.

Good luck

Nepatsfan
Click to expand...

Neptsfan,
Not good idea at all turning System restore OFF then turning the computer
OFF, simply the machine will not Boot up and will give the Black screen with
Drivers paths, it will halt there for ever until somebody do something about
it.
I agree with in turning OFF the system Restore to delete the infected
restore points but after cleaning steps, then Turn it back ON at the same
time Turning IT OFF to get some restore point to support the system if needed
to restore back.
HTH.
nass
 
You're probably right.

Nepatsfan


In
Gerry said:
Nepatsfan

Aren't there other programmes that prevent restoration? I
don't think
Symamntec / Norton are the only software providers creating
this
problem.
Click to expand...
 
In
nass said:
Neptsfan,
Not good idea at all turning System restore OFF then turning
the computer
OFF, simply the machine will not Boot up and will give the
Black screen with
Drivers paths, it will halt there for ever until somebody do
something about
it.
I agree with in turning OFF the system Restore to delete the
infected
restore points but after cleaning steps, then Turn it back
ON at the same
time Turning IT OFF to get some restore point to support the
system if needed
to restore back.
HTH.
nass
Click to expand...

I just turned off System Restore on two XP systems, one running
Home Edition, the other running Pro. I then shut down both
machines. Both systems rebooted without a problem.

While I'll agree that it's not necessary to reboot the computer
to remove old restore points, I've never seen the behavior
you've described.

Nepatsfan
 
Nepatsfan said:
In

I just turned off System Restore on two XP systems, one running
Home Edition, the other running Pro. I then shut down both
machines. Both systems rebooted without a problem.

While I'll agree that it's not necessary to reboot the computer
to remove old restore points, I've never seen the behavior
you've described.

Nepatsfan
Click to expand...

If these machines been infected and you done this to them then you should
consider yourself lucky!.
Believe me don't ever try to turn the System Restore for an infected machine
and Turn it OFF, you will not boot up again unless you got the XP CD and you
know the rest.
HTH.
nass
 
Bert said:
Hi Stan,

No, this is not normal.

Let's see if System Restore will function in Safe Mode.

Boot into Safe Mode and perform a test restore using the following link.
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/tips.html#3

How to starting Windows XP in Safe Mode:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/safemode.html

If there are any Norton applications installed, take a look at this page.
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/symantecdoc1.html

Here are some more troubleshooting steps to take when System Restore fails
to restore:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/srfail.html

The Event Viewer can sometimes be helpful in tracking down errors.
Using the Event Viewer to troubleshoot System Restore errors:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/source.html

Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org
Click to expand...

I shut off Norton which I had been doing anyway and restored in Safe
mode, and it worked. I got my system back where it was a week ago which
is just where I wanted it.

Thanks for everyone's help.

Stan
 
Yep, always clean the infection *before* deleting all the restore points.
Better to have an infected restore point than none at all. Besides, an
infected restore point is of no consequence *unless* the restore point has
been invoked.

Just my 2 cents...

--
HTH,
Curt

Windows Support Center
www.aumha.org
Practically Nerded,...
http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm

|
|
| "Nepatsfan" wrote:
|
| > In | > > "Nepatsfan" wrote:
| > >
| > >> In | > >>> When I try to do a System Restore, it shows a number of
| > >>> times
| > >>> where
| > >>> there are restore points. Yet, when I try some of these,
| > >>> noine of them
| > >>> works. Is this normal? Am I supposed to use only the most
| > >>> recent restore
| > >>> point?
| > >>>
| > >>> Thanks
| > >>> Stan
| > >>
| > >> Any Symantec products installed on your computer?
| > >>
| > >> Message: "Restoration Incomplete. Your computer cannot be
| > >> restored . . . " when you run Windows System Restore
| > >>
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/sharedtech.nsf/0/c7a9848df95596b9882570c900605bf5?OpenDocument
| > >>
| > >> It's also possible that your restore points are corrupted.
| > >> When
| > >> that happens there is on recourse other than to turn off
| > >> System
| > >> Restore to delete all restore points, reboot the computer,
| > >> and
| > >> turn System Restore back on.
| > >>
| > >> Good luck
| > >>
| > >> Nepatsfan
| > >
| > > Neptsfan,
| > > Not good idea at all turning System restore OFF then turning
| > > the computer
| > > OFF, simply the machine will not Boot up and will give the
| > > Black screen with
| > > Drivers paths, it will halt there for ever until somebody do
| > > something about
| > > it.
| > > I agree with in turning OFF the system Restore to delete the
| > > infected
| > > restore points but after cleaning steps, then Turn it back
| > > ON at the same
| > > time Turning IT OFF to get some restore point to support the
| > > system if needed
| > > to restore back.
| > > HTH.
| > > nass
| >
| > I just turned off System Restore on two XP systems, one running
| > Home Edition, the other running Pro. I then shut down both
| > machines. Both systems rebooted without a problem.
| >
| > While I'll agree that it's not necessary to reboot the computer
| > to remove old restore points, I've never seen the behavior
| > you've described.
| >
| > Nepatsfan
|
| If these machines been infected and you done this to them then you should
| consider yourself lucky!.
| Believe me don't ever try to turn the System Restore for an infected
machine
| and Turn it OFF, you will not boot up again unless you got the XP CD and
you
| know the rest.
| HTH.
| nass
 
Nass

What you are saying is new to me and I am not sure it is correct.

There are third party products performing a similar function and those
using them turn off System Restore. Other users have a different
approach and clone disks or take total backups. I suspect that many of
those turn off System Restore.

System Restore is not an essential element of the operating system and
the operating system functions fine without it. System Restore is a
troublesome, unreliable tool, which may get you out of trouble if it
works as intended when part of your system is malfunctioning. It is a
quick fix if the system has recently been changed and the user wants to
revert back to the system as it was a few days earlier.

--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
Sheer hogwash. I had a problem a while back and tried 3 restores all of
which failed. I finally picked one a little over two weeks old and it worked
perfectly. Of course, having an infected system is not normal that is
precisely why I did a restore. And how can going back a few weeks cause more
problems than it solves? Sure there might be a few things that need
reinstalling but, no big deal.
 
System Restore is a very valuable tool and should not be turned off, except,
to clear restore points, and NOT until one is assured his computer is clean.
There are some very nasty downloadable programs that purposely turn off
System Restore so that you cannot delete their program. System Restore is a
troublesome tool? To whom?
 
With all due respect, I agree with Bert completely. There are many
instances where a restore point that old has so *little* in common from
where you were, that it *does* cause more problems than it solves. I wish I
could be more specific, but I can't. There *are* also those instances where
I've done essentially nothing with my computer in the last two weeks, and an
old restore point *may be* just fine.

--
HTH,
Curt

Windows Support Center
www.aumha.org
Practically Nerded,...
http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm

| Sheer hogwash. I had a problem a while back and tried 3 restores all of
| which failed. I finally picked one a little over two weeks old and it
worked
| perfectly. Of course, having an infected system is not normal that is
| precisely why I did a restore. And how can going back a few weeks cause
more
| problems than it solves? Sure there might be a few things that need
| reinstalling but, no big deal.
| | > Having an infected system is not normal.
| >
| > And going back two weeks can easily cause more problem than it solves.
| >
| > If System Restore functions in Safe Mode, (which most of the time is
does)
| > then there would be no need to go back that far.
| >
| > Regards,
| > Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
| > http://bertk.mvps.org
| > Member: http://dts-l.org
| >
| >
| >
| > Unknown wrote:
| >> It is perfectly normal if the computer is creating infected restore
| >> points. He/she could have several bad restore points. Going back two
| >> weeks or so may solve the problem.
| >
| >
| >> "Bert Kinney" wrote
| >>> Hi Stan,
| >>>
| >>> No, this is not normal.
| >>>
| >>> Let's see if System Restore will function in Safe Mode.
| >>>
| >>> Boot into Safe Mode and perform a test restore using the following
link.
| >>> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/tips.html#3
| >>>
| >>> How to starting Windows XP in Safe Mode:
| >>> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/safemode.html
| >>>
| >>> If there are any Norton applications installed, take a look at this
| >>> page.
| >>> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/symantecdoc1.html
| >>>
| >>> Here are some more troubleshooting steps to take when System Restore
| >>> fails to restore:
| >>> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/srfail.html
| >>>
| >>> The Event Viewer can sometimes be helpful in tracking down errors.
| >>> Using the Event Viewer to troubleshoot System Restore errors:
| >>> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/source.html
| >>>
| >>> Regards,
| >>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
| >>> http://bertk.mvps.org
| >>> Member: http://dts-l.org
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> Stan Pierce wrote:
| >>>> When I try to do a System Restore, it shows a number of times where
| >>>> there are restore points. Yet, when I try some of these, noine of
them
| >>>> works. Is this normal? Am I supposed to use only the most recent
| >>>> restore point?
| >>>>
| >>>> Thanks
| >>>> Stan
|
|
 
Unknown,

After re-reading my response to you, I think I sounded kind of
mealy-mouthed. In *general* I agree with Bert, but I can also see instances
of where you speak where things would be fine.

--
HTH,
Curt

Windows Support Center
www.aumha.org
Practically Nerded,...
http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm

| Sheer hogwash. I had a problem a while back and tried 3 restores all of
| which failed. I finally picked one a little over two weeks old and it
worked
| perfectly. Of course, having an infected system is not normal that is
| precisely why I did a restore. And how can going back a few weeks cause
more
| problems than it solves? Sure there might be a few things that need
| reinstalling but, no big deal.
| | > Having an infected system is not normal.
| >
| > And going back two weeks can easily cause more problem than it solves.
| >
| > If System Restore functions in Safe Mode, (which most of the time is
does)
| > then there would be no need to go back that far.
| >
| > Regards,
| > Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
| > http://bertk.mvps.org
| > Member: http://dts-l.org
| >
| >
| >
| > Unknown wrote:
| >> It is perfectly normal if the computer is creating infected restore
| >> points. He/she could have several bad restore points. Going back two
| >> weeks or so may solve the problem.
| >
| >
| >> "Bert Kinney" wrote
| >>> Hi Stan,
| >>>
| >>> No, this is not normal.
| >>>
| >>> Let's see if System Restore will function in Safe Mode.
| >>>
| >>> Boot into Safe Mode and perform a test restore using the following
link.
| >>> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/tips.html#3
| >>>
| >>> How to starting Windows XP in Safe Mode:
| >>> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/safemode.html
| >>>
| >>> If there are any Norton applications installed, take a look at this
| >>> page.
| >>> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/symantecdoc1.html
| >>>
| >>> Here are some more troubleshooting steps to take when System Restore
| >>> fails to restore:
| >>> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/srfail.html
| >>>
| >>> The Event Viewer can sometimes be helpful in tracking down errors.
| >>> Using the Event Viewer to troubleshoot System Restore errors:
| >>> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/source.html
| >>>
| >>> Regards,
| >>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
| >>> http://bertk.mvps.org
| >>> Member: http://dts-l.org
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> Stan Pierce wrote:
| >>>> When I try to do a System Restore, it shows a number of times where
| >>>> there are restore points. Yet, when I try some of these, noine of
them
| >>>> works. Is this normal? Am I supposed to use only the most recent
| >>>> restore point?
| >>>>
| >>>> Thanks
| >>>> Stan
|
|
 
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