System restore problem

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Why oh why, every time I try to use system restore, when the machine
reboots, it tells me the restore was not successful and no changes have been
made. It does this regardless of what restore point I use, either app
generated or made by me. Is there something I'm doing wrong? Is there a
correct way of using system restore?
 
Hi,

Once System Restore gets messed up, the best thing to do is to disable it,
reboot, then reenable it. This will lose all current restore points, but may
get is working right again. To do this, check the System Restore tab of the
System applet in the Control Panel. There is an option to "Turn off System
Restore on all drives".

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers aka "Nutcase" MS-MVP - Win9x

Associate Expert - WinXP - Expert Zone
 
Rick "Nutcase" Rogers - typed:
Hi,

Once System Restore gets messed up, the best thing to do is to
disable it, reboot, then reenable it. This will lose all current
restore points, but may get is working right again. To do this, check
the System Restore tab of the System applet in the Control Panel.
There is an option to "Turn off System Restore on all drives".

"Once System Restore gets messed up, the best thing to do is to
disable it."

In other words, don't bother re-enabling something that has crashed on
your PC, let alone a substantial number of others 'cos it's likely to
happen again! Not only is SR pretty unstable, it's inflexible & if any
part gets corrupted - kiss goodbye to the all restore points. It also
fragments your disc space!

Ghost, Drive Image, True Image etc are far better options & will image
all files (eg documents) that SR ignores.

SR is a nice idea that needs further refinement - I'm feeling polite
today ;)
 
Bitstring <[email protected]>, from the wonderful
person Lemon Jelly said:
SR is a nice idea that needs further refinement - I'm feeling polite
today ;)

It was perfected several years ago (see 'ConfigSafe95', for .. yep, you
guessed it, Windows95), but not by MS.
 
Thetan said:
Why oh why, every time I try to use system restore, when the machine
reboots, it tells me the restore was not successful and no changes have been
made. It does this regardless of what restore point I use, either app

Same thing often happens in scanreg /restore in win98 PCs. IT's NOT a
perfect science.


That's why you need to keep an independent backup of your registry AND
you data files.
ie dont trust MS to do it for you........ MS is NOT in the BACKUP
business.
 
Thetan said:
Why oh why, every time I try to use system restore, when the machine
reboots, it tells me the restore was not successful and no changes have been
made. It does this regardless of what restore point I use, either app
generated or made by me. Is there something I'm doing wrong? Is there a
correct way of using system restore?

Check the troubleshooter at
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;302796
and in particular if you have a Highpoint controller the fix at
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;322246

I think these troubles may arise because the 12% of the drive allotted
is too much for the facilities own good on a large drive.

Aside from points in the trouble shooter, I would start it over. Go to
System - System Restore, check Disable and OK, close and restart. Then
have Folder Options - View set to show Hidden files, and *not* Hide
Protected mode ones and go to the System Volume Information on each
drive and delete all the contents. Start up SR again, and this time
highlight each drive, Settings and reduce the space allotted - say 500MB
should be plenty to keep as many points as is really sensible
 
Lemon said:
"Once System Restore gets messed up, the best thing to do is to
disable it."

In other words, don't bother re-enabling something that has crashed on
your PC, let alone a substantial number of others 'cos it's likely to
happen again!

One difficulty in this is that I have *not* had any trouble, so cannot
experiment on fixes. But I think the troubles people have arise from
one of two things: either trying to tinker manually with the files in
the folder; or, I am coming to suspect, having much more space allotted
to it than its indexing systems can properly handle. Compare the
troubles that arise if Temporary Internet Files overfills its indexes
(and that can happily default to GB when maybe 50 or 100 MB at most
should be plenty). Try 500MB for SR and see.
 
Alex Nichol - typed:
One difficulty in this is that I have *not* had any trouble, so cannot
experiment on fixes. But I think the troubles people have arise from
one of two things: either trying to tinker manually with the files in
the folder; or, I am coming to suspect, having much more space
allotted to it than its indexing systems can properly handle.
Compare the troubles that arise if Temporary Internet Files overfills
its indexes (and that can happily default to GB when maybe 50 or 100
MB at most should be plenty). Try 500MB for SR and see.

SR has only failed on me once. I successfully used it many times - even
dropping back through 6 once. I have had to delete renamed duplicate
files a couple of times. Because I run both Drive Image & NTBackup,
using SR as well was overkill. Loosing space from my C drive was a
concern as well & my defrag app was reporting several SR files being in
hundreds of fragments!! Although I gave myself access rights once to
poke around, I changed it back to system only afterwards. The large
number of posts regarding its failure was enough for me to stop using
it.
 
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