system restore error after upgrade from XP Pro

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Michael Bruegmann

Hi,

I've some trouble with system restore after upgrading to vista business from
xp pro.

When I try to configure "System Protection" I get the error "Unexpected
error on property page. Not enought memory... (0x8007000E)". Starting the
System Restore Assistant trying to create a manual restorepoint leeds to
error "This certificate does not function on this system. Not enought
memory... (0x8007000E)" on the first page and the "next" button is disabled.

When this happends the application eventlog logs an error "Source: SPP,
EventID: 12290, Error on RPC-serialization"


anyone some ideas? maybe any further log I can examin?


greetings

michael
 
I'm afraid I'm not going to be of much help to you, but I'm curious about
your situation. You performed an in-place upgrade from Windows XP
Professional to Windows Vista Business, correct? What is the history of the
old WinXP installation? Was it an old installation or a pretty recent one?
Had it had any problems with System Restore? Did you remove all of the types
of software that Microsoft recommends (stuff that monitors the system, like
AV software and the like) before performing the upgrade installation?

I've got to say that I'm seeing some really wonky posts about problems
people are having with these upgrade installations. I've seen other people
have enough trouble with OS upgrade installations over the years that I'm
just never tempted to try it on my own machines, though my work entails me
testing the process every time a new Windows version is released. Of course
I'm generally testing the upgrade process on pretty clean base installations.
It sometimes works pretty well that way, but, apparently, not so well on
systems that have a "history" in the real world.

You have my sympathy, but I'm going to suggest that you consider a clean
installation of the OS. This issue with such a basic part of the new OS does
not bode well for your future use of the installation as it stands.

I hope someone brighter than I will come along with a solution.
 
Hi,

yes it was an in-place upgrade from Windows XP Pro to Vista Business. My XP
system was a OEM preinstalled System filled up over the last years with many
different software. It's a developer system for financial software
applications, so there is many different software installed and configured:

MS Office 2003 Applications like Word, Excel, Outlook, Visio, FrontPage, MS
Visual Studio 2005, MS PSDK, Support Tools, Resource Kit, MS Windows Server
2003 AdminPack, Perl, Oracle Runtime Client, IBM DB2 Runtime Client, Sybase
SQL Anywhere, a CD-ROM burning Application, not to forgett an AntiVirus
Suit, and so on, and so on...

Well surely a "typical" system for an upgrade scenario, I think (who would
have made an upgrade from a "clean" system?-). With all those applications
installed I was not willing to waste my time with reinstalling and
reconfiguring all this. So I decided to only remove the software and drivers
the vista "compatibility test" (the one executed during the upgrade)
recommended me and I deactivated the AntiVirus Suite before upgrading. (btw.
the "compatibility test" not recommended me to remove the AntiVirus
software)

On Windows XP I had no trouble with System Restore. And it looks like that
after the upgrade Vista still has no problems creating new restore points
automatically when installing a new driver or a new software for example.

But if Microsoft is telling me to never upgrade a system with a "real life
hinstory", then, why the hell, schould I buy the new version. A new
operating system version allways means to buy a new system? Believe me, I
really have larger problems than wasting hours and days on reinstalling an
reconfiguring all the software I've to work with. And if I tell my
customers, that the progress of their current project is paused because I
spent the last week on installing the new operaing system, i don't think
they will pay me for that.

Maybe it takes fewer time to analyse my problem an fix it. So if anybody can
tell me how to log, trace or debug something. Your suggestions would be
welcome.

Thanks to "jimmuh"


Greetings

Michael



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Hi, Michael.

You have stated the same question I have asked myself many times over the
years. Since the people with the most complex operating system configurations
and the greatest number of installations and uninstallations in their system
histories are the ones who are also those who are most likely to have
problems with an upgrade installation of an OS, why does Microsoft bother to
even make it possible?

In your case I am particularly concerned that it is unlikely that you'll get
everything running properly. My wife is a developer who works with a large
variety of development tools and languages, so I think I have a fair idea of
what your system looks like. I actually don't know any developer's systems
that work really well -- at least by my standards. There's just way too much
"junk" on the system to interfere with the operating system. I know devs who
install all of their development tools in virtual machines under VMWare or
VPC. That way, when the system gets too messy, it just gets replaced with a
clean virtual image with the tools already installed on it. Takes 5 minutes
tops for a whole new development system.

I know that people do the upgrade installations to save time. In my
experience, it often doesn't work out -- unless the original system
configuration was VERY clean to start with. But, like you say, it' the guys
with the complex systems that could actually use the time saved by the
upgrade.

I did do some research on your problem and couldn't find ANYTHING about it.
I'll hang in here in the hope that I might be of help, but I'm stymied for
now.

Good luck!
 
Hi Jim,

thanks for your understanding of my situation.

Tracing the activity of my AntiVirus Tool (G-DATA AntiVirus Client/Server
Version 6.1) I found a Solution for the problem. Seems in Vista there's a
new way accessing the files of a Hardrive using a Path beginning with
"\Device\HardiskVolumeShadowCopy3\..." . The FileMonitor of the AntiVirus
Tool seems not to be compatibel with this kind of requests and maybe blocks
them. Defining an exclude-entry in the monitorconfiguration for paths
beginning with "\Device" solved the problem.

Well I know that this is not a save way to configure an AntiVirus Tool, but
it will work for a while and I will report the Problem to the Software
Developer of the AntiVirus Suite and hope they'll fix it soon.

Thanks again for your answers!

Greetings

Michael
 
Wow! Good for you, Michael! I'm glad you found that solution!

My advice is to watch the system carefully for functionality of basic
features. As long as all of that is intact, you may be home free! As for me,
I'm lucky to keep my wife's systems just running under a single OS. Since she
does a lot of device driver development, along with database application
development (weird combination, eh?), she can't do her thing in the virtual
machine environment. I've always found it funny that she, a person who is so
incredibly capable at development, is hopeless when it comes to maintaining
her own systems. Well, I should say that she is probably way above average at
that, but her systems used to require a total wipe and reinstallation every
3-4 months before I started maintaining them. Now, all four of her systems
have been running for a bit under four years with hardly any trouble -- for
her. But I spend a few hours PER WEEK on them to be sure that nothing has
been, or will be, farkled. It has made a difference in her efficiency, not
having to reconfigure her systems ever-so-often. I'm thinking (hoping) that
when she finally goes to Vista my life will get a bit easier.

I hope the same for you!

My regards to you!
 
jimmuh said:
Wow! Good for you, Michael! I'm glad you found that solution!

My advice is to watch the system carefully for functionality of basic
features. As long as all of that is intact, you may be home free! As for
me,
I'm lucky to keep my wife's systems just running under a single OS. Since
she
does a lot of device driver development, along with database application
development (weird combination, eh?), she can't do her thing in the
virtual
machine environment. I've always found it funny that she, a person who is
so
incredibly capable at development, is hopeless when it comes to
maintaining
her own systems. Well, I should say that she is probably way above average
at
that, but her systems used to require a total wipe and reinstallation
every
3-4 months before I started maintaining them. Now, all four of her systems
have been running for a bit under four years with hardly any trouble --
for
her. But I spend a few hours PER WEEK on them to be sure that nothing has
been, or will be, farkled. It has made a difference in her efficiency, not
having to reconfigure her systems ever-so-often. I'm thinking (hoping)
that
when she finally goes to Vista my life will get a bit easier.
Click to expand...

Lol, wishful thinking. If it's not one thing it's another. A husband's
life never get's easier.
 
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