System Lock?

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bluemoon

Win98se

Does there exist a utility for locking the system\desktop, etc., that
can't be easily compromised?

I've tried several supposedly well recommended apps, but despite
claims to he contrary, they were easily disabled without need of a
password.

thx

blue
 
bluemoon said:
Win98se

Does there exist a utility for locking the system\desktop, etc., that
can't be easily compromised?

I've tried several supposedly well recommended apps, but despite
claims to he contrary, they were easily disabled without need of a
password.

thx

blue
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Babya bSecure has password protection and lets you disable features such
as:

-Disable Ctrl-Alt-Del
-Disable taskbar
-make invisible to Ctrl-Alt-Del
-auto hide program on security start

Could some try it out and post a review here of it?

http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?fid=1068531183
 
bluemoon said:
Win98se

Does there exist a utility for locking the system\desktop, etc., that
can't be easily compromised?

I've tried several supposedly well recommended apps, but despite
claims to he contrary, they were easily disabled without need of a
password.

thx

blue
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I used to quite like LockIt v3.5.2 on my old W98SE.

Website http://kfsoft.cjb.net/

Link without VB runtimes http://perso.wanadoo.fr/khaddad/Lockit352.exe

Link with VB runtimes http://perso.wanadoo.fr/khaddad/Lockit352full.exe

HTH.

DG.
 
A.A. Fussy said:
Babya bSecure has password protection and lets you disable features such
as:

-Disable Ctrl-Alt-Del
-Disable taskbar
-make invisible to Ctrl-Alt-Del
-auto hide program on security start

Could some try it out and post a review here of it?
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Platform: Windows NT/XP/2000

Both downloads at that site (LockIt! v3.5.2) are defective - won't install
 
bluemoon said:
Platform: Windows NT/XP/2000


Both downloads at that site (LockIt! v3.5.2) are defective - won't install
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Some of bSecure program's functions below may work on Windows 98 :
-Disable Ctrl-Alt-Del
-Disable taskbar
-make invisible to Ctrl-Alt-Del
-auto hide program on security start
I tested them in 98SE, and worked.
 
Paul said:
Nothing can disable CTRL+ALT+DEL in Windows.
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Actually, the Disable Ctrl-Alt-Del in bSecure does disable
Ctrl-Alt-Del-tested this in XP, and functions OK.
 
A.A. Fussy said:
Actually, the Disable Ctrl-Alt-Del in bSecure does disable
Ctrl-Alt-Del-tested this in XP, and functions OK.
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I just tested it and see what you mean: it simply closes the Windows
Task Manager when CTRL+ALT+DEL is pressed. But it doesn't actually
disable it. :)
 
Dan Glybitz said:
Both downloads at that site (LockIt! v3.5.2) are defective - won't install
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Sorry! Haven't used it for years but found it used to work well on 98SE. I
have XP Home now and unfortunately I don't need that utility, otherwise I'd
try out the links myself.

DG.
 
Hello,
Win98se

Does there exist a utility for locking the system\desktop, etc., that
can't be easily compromised?

I've tried several supposedly well recommended apps, but despite
claims to he contrary, they were easily disabled without need of a
password.
Click to expand...

maybe this fills your needs:

DesktopShield 2000
http://fwg.raum108.de/dl.php?file=DesktopShield2000.zip 3,66 MB
http://fwg.raum108.de/dl.php?file=update-sr3.zip 228 KB

Maybe a bit huge, but when I tested it seemed to work okay.

Regards,
Thorsten
 
Win98se

Does there exist a utility for locking the system\desktop, etc., that
can't be easily compromised?

I've tried several supposedly well recommended apps, but despite
claims to he contrary, they were easily disabled without need of a
password.

thx

blue
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Winsecure-IT

"Brief Description:
A password utility for Windows 9x!
Makes you able to lock your computer while you are away from it.

Version: 5.31
Release date: 17-06-2001"

http://www.sguft.dk/

http://www.sguft.dk/?page=Products

http://www.sguft.dk/?Page=ProductInfo&ID=3

http://www.sguft.dk/download/winsecure.exe

Still using it today. Works well.

Regards

Wayne D
 
A.A. Fussy said:
Babya bSecure has password protection and lets you disable features such
as:
Could some try it out and post a review here of it?
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Tested with Win98se. Too many deficits to mention, not the least of
which is zero ducumentation. Developer needs to look at features
offered by similar proggys, decide what he ultimately wants the
program to accomplish (because right now it doesn't do very much that
is useful), then go back to the drawing board.
 
Wayne D said:
Winsecure-IT

"Brief Description:
A password utility for Windows 9x!
Makes you able to lock your computer while you are away from it.

Version: 5.31
Release date: 17-06-2001"
Still using it today. Works well.
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Unfortunately, I fear you may be operating with a false sense of
security if Winsecure-IT works the same for both of us.

There are a bunch of programs like Winsecure-IT that ostensibly do an
effective job in their own unique ways of locking the system.

But all the apps I checked out also have a easily exploited fatal flaw
in common, which IMHO renders them virtually useless.

Like all the others, Winsecure-IT failed the requirement to
continually protect the system after reboot. Every one I checked out
could be disabled when the desktop starts loading by hitting
ctrl+alt+del & selecting "end task" on the given program before it
launches.

I know it sounds ridiculously simple, but there it is.

Perhaps I've been doing something wrong during the setup of the
programs, but don't think so?

Would gladly be proven incorrect.

blue
 
Thorsten Duhn said:
maybe this fills your needs:

DesktopShield 2000
http://fwg.raum108.de/dl.php?file=DesktopShield2000.zip 3,66 MB
http://fwg.raum108.de/dl.php?file=update-sr3.zip 228 KB

Maybe a bit huge, but when I tested it seemed to work okay.
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Definitely seems oversized when you consider it's lack of options, but
despite that probably does the best job so far of simply locking the
desktop without being compromised by CTRL+ALT+DEL.

Except for one glaring thing.

It does not allow for disabling the boot menu, a feature offered by
several including SecureIt Pro, which seems to have the best
combination of options, safeguards & size, but is easily broken by
CTRL+ALT+DEL.

Hoping to find something that does both.

Hoping I could find one that is secure in both areas.
 
Hello,
DesktopShield 2000
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Except for one glaring thing.

It does not allow for disabling the boot menu, [...]
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the F8 boot menu (to reach safe mode) or a boot manager from
Win2000/XP, Linux or stuff like that? First would really be a
knock out criteria, last is not in case when you need something
for Win98 (because there could be many different boot managers).
Cannot try, because I've thrown away my Win98 a few weeks ago.

Please report, if you find a good one!

Regards,
Thorsten
 
bluemoon said:
Win98se

Does there exist a utility for locking the system\desktop, etc., that
can't be easily compromised?

I've tried several supposedly well recommended apps, but despite
claims to he contrary, they were easily disabled without need of a
password.

thx

blue
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Don't know if this will fit the bill, but I've used it:

http://www.securityfocus.com/tools/681

"MausTrap is a small, but effective security program which prevents users
from getting into Windows unless a password is supplied. It disables a few
keys like the Windows key, Alt+Control+Del, Alt+Tab and a few others. It
also hides the Taskbar and the Windows Desktop, so you can't use Windows
until you supply the correct password, even if it gets hacked. Use MausTrap
if you leave your computer unoccupied at times, and don't want others to use
your computer with you not knowing"
 
Unfortunately, I fear you may be operating with a false sense of
security if Winsecure-IT works the same for both of us.

There are a bunch of programs like Winsecure-IT that ostensibly do an
effective job in their own unique ways of locking the system.

But all the apps I checked out also have a easily exploited fatal flaw
in common, which IMHO renders them virtually useless.

Like all the others, Winsecure-IT failed the requirement to
continually protect the system after reboot. Every one I checked out
could be disabled when the desktop starts loading by hitting
ctrl+alt+del & selecting "end task" on the given program before it
launches.

I know it sounds ridiculously simple, but there it is.

Perhaps I've been doing something wrong during the setup of the
programs, but don't think so?

Would gladly be proven incorrect.

blue
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Hello blue:

You asked for a desktop locking tool. Winsecure does this. If you are
looking for a secure way to boot that can not be bypassed on startup, two
possibilities.

1) Bios Password for boot. When activated, boot into Windows 98 is only
possible when the password is entered.

2) Use a boot manager program that allows you to assign a password before
it boots into Windows 98.

I'm not sure what you are trying to protect your computer from, but it
looks like they have you on the defensive. Maybe it's time to turn the
tables.

Regards

Wayne D
 
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