Strategies for replacing boot drive?

[Bill]

Problem:
========
My boot drive is failing, and I want to replace it without having to
re-install the 150+ applications in my "C:\Program Files\" subdirectory.

How can I do this?

More details:
=============
- System: 2 yo homebuilt Win XP Pro on an Asus P4C800-E MB with a P4 2.8
Ghz processor.

- Why do I think my system drive is failing? I have 2 identical Seagate
ST3120026AS SATA drives, one is the system drive, the other one is my
data drive. The data drive (which is 95% full) consistently runs at
113-118 degF. The system disk (which is 45% full) runs at 122-136 degF,
and lately has been in the 127-133 degF range. (Temps determined by PC
Mag's HD Heartbeat 2.0)

What I'd like to do is:
1. move my data to a new (bigger) SATA drive
2. move my system (\Windows & \Program Files) to the current SATA data
drive and make it the bootable drive
3. discard the warm drive

Regards,

Bill

 

[SteveH]

Problem:
========
My boot drive is failing, and I want to replace it without having to
re-install the 150+ applications in my "C:\Program Files\" subdirectory.

How can I do this?

More details:
=============
- System: 2 yo homebuilt Win XP Pro on an Asus P4C800-E MB with a P4 2.8
Ghz processor.

- Why do I think my system drive is failing? I have 2 identical Seagate
ST3120026AS SATA drives, one is the system drive, the other one is my data
drive. The data drive (which is 95% full) consistently runs at 113-118
degF. The system disk (which is 45% full) runs at 122-136 degF, and
lately has been in the 127-133 degF range. (Temps determined by PC Mag's
HD Heartbeat 2.0)

What I'd like to do is:
1. move my data to a new (bigger) SATA drive
2. move my system (\Windows & \Program Files) to the current SATA data
drive and make it the bootable drive
3. discard the warm drive

Regards,

Bill

Has the temperature suddenly increased, or has the drive with the high
temperature always run a bit warm?
Have you run any SMART software on it to see if it is failing? I was just
wondering if this is to do with airflow in your PC's case.

SteveH

 

[John Doe]

What I'd like to do is:
1. move my data to a new (bigger) SATA drive
2. move my system (\Windows & \Program Files) to the current SATA
data drive and make it the bootable drive
3. discard the warm drive

Make sure you have removable media copies of any important files,
now and doubly so before you attempt anything like that.

Good luck.

 

[Rod Speed]

Problem:
========
My boot drive is failing,

I doubt it.

and I want to replace it without having to re-install the 150+ applications in my "C:\Program
Files\" subdirectory.

How can I do this?

Best to use True Image.

More details:
=============
- System: 2 yo homebuilt Win XP Pro on an Asus P4C800-E MB with a P4 2.8 Ghz processor.

- Why do I think my system drive is failing? I have 2 identical
Seagate ST3120026AS SATA drives, one is the system drive, the other one is my data drive. The
data drive (which is 95% full)
consistently runs at 113-118 degF.

Thats a bit high, you need better drive cooling.

The system disk (which is 45% full) runs at 122-136 degF, and lately has been in the 127-133 degF
range.

Thats definitely too high, but is likely just because of where its mounted,
likely that drive is between the data drive and the floppy drive so it gets
even less airflow over the drive than the data drive does.

No evidence of any drive failure, post the
SMART data for the boot drive using Everest.
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4181

(Temps determined by PC Mag's HD Heartbeat 2.0)

What I'd like to do is:
1. move my data to a new (bigger) SATA drive
2. move my system (\Windows & \Program Files) to the current SATAdata drive and make it the
bootable drive
3. discard the warm drive

True Image will do that, but you will just see the new drive running too hot too.

What you need to do is to have a fan mounted in front of
the drives so you get some decent airflow over the drives.

 

[RussellS]

Bill:

Excellent diagnosis and advice from Rod Speed. You need to solve the heat
dissipation issue around your hard drives by installing an intake case fan
or one of those HD coolers, if compatible with your case. Either way, I
have seen a drop in a few degrees with a particular hard drive if the drive
is taken out, then re-installed upside-down from its original installation,
sometimes allowing the side with the greatest heat buildup a bit more
airflow. This doesn't change the advice to get a fan(s) to cool down the HD
bay area, however, just a suggestion to see if you can get any additional
heat dissipation from a particular drive orientation in the case.

 

[SteveH]

I doubt it.



Best to use True Image.



Thats a bit high, you need better drive cooling.


Thats definitely too high, but is likely just because of where its
mounted,
likely that drive is between the data drive and the floppy drive so it
gets
even less airflow over the drive than the data drive does.

No evidence of any drive failure, post the
SMART data for the boot drive using Everest.
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4181



True Image will do that, but you will just see the new drive running too
hot too.

What you need to do is to have a fan mounted in front of
the drives so you get some decent airflow over the drives.

Funny, I could swear that's more or less what I posted hours ago.

SteveH

 

[Bill]

Thats definitely too high, but is likely just because of where its mounted,
likely that drive is between the data drive and the floppy drive so it gets
even less airflow over the drive than the data drive does.

No evidence of any drive failure, post the
SMART data for the boot drive using Everest.
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4181

Rod et al:

Thank you all for your advice. I've attached the SMART data from the
boot drive (3JT3L58N), as well as the identical data drive.

I've started a TrueImage backup of the boot drive (it's already reported
3 "failure to read" errors in the first 15 minutes, so I don't know how
"True" it'll be).

I also seem to have a bad USB device in my USB chains (15 devices)
that's intermittently re-booting and hanging the POST, so I have some
additional troubleshooting.

After the backup, I'll explore ways to improve the airflow around the
disk(s).

Regards,

Bill
-----------



[ ST3120026AS (3JT3L58N) ]

01 Raw Read Error Rate 6 48 45 217939840 OK: Value is normal
03 Spin Up Time 0 97 96 0 OK: Always passing
04 Start/Stop Count 20 100 100 20 OK: Value is normal
05 Reallocated Sector Count 36 100 100 0 OK: Value is normal
07 Seek Error Rate 30 88 60 671946473 OK: Value is normal
09 Power-On Time Count 0 77 77 20904 OK: Always passing
0A Spin Retry Count 97 100 100 0 OK: Value is normal
0C Power Cycle Count 20 100 100 124 OK: Value is normal
C2 Temperature 0 51 62 51 OK: Always passing
C3 Hardware ECC Recovered 0 48 45 217939840 OK: Always passing
C5 Current Pending Sector Count 0 100 100 13 OK: Always passing
C6 Off-Line Uncorrect. Sect. Cnt0 100 100 13 OK: Always passing
C7 Ultra ATA CRC Error Rate 0 200 199 2 OK: Always passing
C8 Write Error Rate 0 100 253 0 OK: Always passing
CA <vendor-specific> 0 100 253 0 OK: Always passing

[ ST3120026AS (3JT3L8EJ) ]

01 Raw Read Error Rate 6 50 46 143002282 OK: Value is normal
03 Spin Up Time 0 97 96 0 OK: Always passing
04 Start/Stop Count 20 100 100 0 OK: Value is normal
05 Reallocated Sector Count 36 100 100 0 OK: Value is normal
07 Seek Error Rate 30 86 60 427306362 OK: Value is normal
09 Power-On Time Count 0 77 77 20918 OK: Always passing
0A Spin Retry Count 97 100 100 0 OK: Value is normal
0C Power Cycle Count 20 100 100 126 OK: Value is normal
C2 Temperature 0 46 57 46 OK: Always passing
C3 Hardware ECC Recovered 0 50 46 143002282 OK: Always passing
C5 Current Pending Sector Count 0 100 100 3 OK: Always passing
C6 Off-Line Uncorrect. Sect. Cnt0 100 100 3 OK: Always passing
C7 Ultra ATA CRC Error Rate 0 200 200 0 OK: Always passing
C8 Write Error Rate 0 100 253 0 OK: Always passing
CA <vendor-specific> 0 100 253 0 OK: Always passing

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

There is now tho.

Rod et al:

Thank you all for your advice. I've attached the SMART data from the boot drive (3JT3L58N), as
well as the identical data drive.

Urk, both drives have problems, particularly the ones highlighted below.

I've started a TrueImage backup of the boot drive (it's already reported 3 "failure to read"
errors in the first 15 minutes, so I don't know how "True" it'll be).

Yeah, those are the bad sectors visible in the SMART report.

I also seem to have a bad USB device in my USB chains (15 devices) that's intermittently
re-booting and hanging the POST, so I have some additional troubleshooting.

After the backup, I'll explore ways to improve the airflow around the disk(s).

[ ST3120026AS (3JT3L58N) ]

01 Raw Read Error Rate 6 48 45 217939840 OK: Value is normal
03 Spin Up Time 0 97 96 0 OK: Always passing
04 Start/Stop Count 20 100 100 20 OK: Value is normal
05 Reallocated Sector Count 36 100 100 0 OK: Value is normal
07 Seek Error Rate 30 88 60 671946473 OK: Value is normal
09 Power-On Time Count 0 77 77 20904 OK: Always passing
0A Spin Retry Count 97 100 100 0 OK: Value is normal
0C Power Cycle Count 20 100 100 124 OK: Value is normal
C2 Temperature 0 51 62 51 OK: Always passing
C3 Hardware ECC Recovered 0 48 45 217939840 OK: Always passing

C5 Current Pending Sector Count 0 100 100 13 OK: Always passing
C6 Off-Line Uncorrect. Sect. Cnt0 100 100 13 OK: Always passing

Those two are the main problem. They may go away if the drive is kept cooler.

C7 Ultra ATA CRC Error Rate 0 200 199 2 OK: Always passing
C8 Write Error Rate 0 100 253 0 OK: Always passing
CA <vendor-specific> 0 100 253 0 OK: Always passing

[ ST3120026AS (3JT3L8EJ) ]

01 Raw Read Error Rate 6 50 46 143002282 OK: Value is normal
03 Spin Up Time 0 97 96 0 OK: Always passing
04 Start/Stop Count 20 100 100 0 OK: Value is normal
05 Reallocated Sector Count 36 100 100 0 OK: Value is normal
07 Seek Error Rate 30 86 60 427306362 OK: Value is normal
09 Power-On Time Count 0 77 77 20918 OK: Always passing
0A Spin Retry Count 97 100 100 0 OK: Value is normal
0C Power Cycle Count 20 100 100 126 OK: Value is normal
C2 Temperature 0 46 57 46 OK: Always passing
C3 Hardware ECC Recovered 0 50 46 143002282 OK: Always passing

C5 Current Pending Sector Count 0 100 100 3 OK: Always passing
C6 Off-Line Uncorrect. Sect. Cnt0 100 100 3 OK: Always passing

Not as bad, but still not great. This is clearly the cooler drive.

C7 Ultra ATA CRC Error Rate 0 200 200 0 OK: Always passing
C8 Write Error Rate 0 100 253 0 OK: Always passing
CA <vendor-specific> 0 100 253 0 OK: Always passing

Try running Seagate's diagnostic on the drives.

 

[Bill]

[ ST3120026AS (3JT3L58N) ]

01 Raw Read Error Rate 6 48 45 217939840 OK: Value is normal
03 Spin Up Time 0 97 96 0 OK: Always passing
04 Start/Stop Count 20 100 100 20 OK: Value is normal
05 Reallocated Sector Count 36 100 100 0 OK: Value is normal
07 Seek Error Rate 30 88 60 671946473 OK: Value is normal
09 Power-On Time Count 0 77 77 20904 OK: Always passing
0A Spin Retry Count 97 100 100 0 OK: Value is normal
0C Power Cycle Count 20 100 100 124 OK: Value is normal
C2 Temperature 0 51 62 51 OK: Always passing
C3 Hardware ECC Recovered 0 48 45 217939840 OK: Always passing

C5 Current Pending Sector Count 0 100 100 13 OK: Always passing
C6 Off-Line Uncorrect. Sect. Cnt0 100 100 13 OK: Always passing

Those two are the main problem. They may go away if the drive is kept cooler.

C7 Ultra ATA CRC Error Rate 0 200 199 2 OK: Always passing
C8 Write Error Rate 0 100 253 0 OK: Always passing
CA <vendor-specific> 0 100 253 0 OK: Always passing

Well, here's a progress report:
- I cleaned the chassis air intake filter. I hadn't done it in 1+ yrs,
Antec recommends monthly - reduced boot drive temp by about 6degF
- I increased the chassis fan speed. My Antec Sonata has a 3-connector
fan-only power supply that I'd been using that makes for a very quiet,
multimedia machine. However, I'm also a power user and Antec recommends
switching to the regular 4-connector (12V?) peripherals power connectors
for heavy users. This dropped the boot drive temp by another 10degF
But the fan is now too noisy :-(
By this time, the Current Pending and Off-Line Uncorrectable Sector
Counts had dropped to 2.
- Defragged the boot drive. No impact on Pending and Uncorrectable
sector counts.
- Took the opportunity to replace my 120GB but 96% full Seagate data
drive with a 400GB WD that I'd bought for the purpose a couple of weeks
ago. That's running very cool (95-97degF)

So here's how my boot drive SMART data looks now. The disk is now
running 102-104degF, and spikes up to 113degF under a heavy load (like
defrag):

[ ST3120026AS (3JT3L58N) ]

01 Raw Read Error Rate 6 50 45 214683915 OK: Value is normal
03 Spin Up Time 0 97 96 0 OK: Always passing
04 Start/Stop Count 20 100 100 20 OK: Value is normal
05 Reallocated Sector Count 36 100 100 0 OK: Value is normal
07 Seek Error Rate 30 88 60 674168008 OK: Value is normal
09 Power-On Time Count 0 77 77 20928 OK: Always passing
0A Spin Retry Count 97 100 100 0 OK: Value is normal
0C Power Cycle Count 20 100 100 127 OK: Value is normal
C2 Temperature 0 39 62 39 OK: Always passing
C3 Hardware ECC Recovered 0 50 45 214683915 OK: Always passing
C5 Current Pending Sect. Cnt 0 100 100 2 OK: Always passing
C6 Off-Line Uncorr. Sect. Cnt 0 100 100 2 OK: Always passing
C7 Ultra ATA CRC Error Rate 0 200 199 2 OK: Always passing
C8 Write Error Rate 0 100 253 0 OK: Always passing

Try running Seagate's diagnostic on the drives.

That'll be next today. I did the quick scan which (not surprisingly)
said there were defects. I'll leave the PC on a surface scan when I go
to work.

Thanks for all the tip! I'm jazzed that I may not need to replace my
boot drive. I'll recycle the data drive as a boot drive for another PC
at some point...

Regards,

Bill

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

[ ST3120026AS (3JT3L58N) ]
01 Raw Read Error Rate 6 48 45 217939840 OK: Value is normal
03 Spin Up Time 0 97 96 0 OK: Always passing
04 Start/Stop Count 20 100 100 20 OK: Value is normal
05 Reallocated Sector Count 36 100 100 0 OK: Value is normal
07 Seek Error Rate 30 88 60 671946473 OK: Value is normal
09 Power-On Time Count 0 77 77 20904 OK: Always passing
0A Spin Retry Count 97 100 100 0 OK: Value is normal
0C Power Cycle Count 20 100 100 124 OK: Value is normal
C2 Temperature 0 51 62 51 OK: Always passing
C3 Hardware ECC Recovered 0 48 45 217939840 OK: Always passing
C5 Current Pending Sector Count 0 100 100 13 OK: Always passing
C6 Off-Line Uncorrect. Sect. Cnt0 100 100 13 OK: Always passing

Those two are the main problem. They may go away if the drive is kept cooler.

C7 Ultra ATA CRC Error Rate 0 200 199 2 OK: Always passing
C8 Write Error Rate 0 100 253 0 OK: Always passing
CA <vendor-specific> 0 100 253 0 OK: Always passing

Well, here's a progress report:
- I cleaned the chassis air intake filter. I hadn't done it in 1+ yrs, Antec recommends monthly
- reduced boot drive temp by about 6degF
- I increased the chassis fan speed. My Antec Sonata has a 3-connector fan-only power supply that
I'd been using that makes for a very quiet, multimedia machine. However, I'm also a power user
and Antec recommends switching to the regular 4-connector (12V?) peripherals power connectors for
heavy users. This dropped the boot drive temp by another 10degF But the fan is now too noisy
:-(
By this time, the Current Pending and Off-Line Uncorrectable Sector Counts had dropped to 2.
- Defragged the boot drive. No impact on Pending and Uncorrectable sector counts.
- Took the opportunity to replace my 120GB but 96% full Seagate data drive with a 400GB WD that
I'd bought for the purpose a couple of weeks ago. That's running very cool (95-97degF)

So here's how my boot drive SMART data looks now. The disk is now running 102-104degF, and spikes
up to 113degF under a heavy load (like defrag):

That's fine.

[ ST3120026AS (3JT3L58N) ]

01 Raw Read Error Rate 6 50 45 214683915 OK: Value is normal
03 Spin Up Time 0 97 96 0 OK: Always passing
04 Start/Stop Count 20 100 100 20 OK: Value is normal
05 Reallocated Sector Count 36 100 100 0 OK: Value is normal
07 Seek Error Rate 30 88 60 674168008 OK: Value is normal
09 Power-On Time Count 0 77 77 20928 OK: Always passing
0A Spin Retry Count 97 100 100 0 OK: Value is normal
0C Power Cycle Count 20 100 100 127 OK: Value is normal
C2 Temperature 0 39 62 39 OK: Always passing
C3 Hardware ECC Recovered 0 50 45 214683915 OK: Always passing
C5 Current Pending Sect. Cnt 0 100 100 2 OK: Always passing
C6 Off-Line Uncorr. Sect. Cnt 0 100 100 2 OK: Always passing
C7 Ultra ATA CRC Error Rate 0 200 199 2 OK: Always passing
C8 Write Error Rate 0 100 253 0 OK: Always passing
CA <vendor-specific> 0 100 253 0 OK: Always passing

Try running Seagate's diagnostic on the drives.

That'll be next today. I did the quick scan which (not surprisingly) said there were defects.
I'll leave the PC on a surface scan when I go to work.

Thanks for all the tip!

Thanks for the washup, too rare in my opinion.

 

[jaster]

[ ST3120026AS (3JT3L58N) ]

01 Raw Read Error Rate 6 48 45 217939840 OK: Value is normal
03 Spin Up Time 0 97 96 0 OK: Always passing
04 Start/Stop Count 20 100 100 20 OK: Value is normal
05 Reallocated Sector Count 36 100 100 0 OK: Value is normal
07 Seek Error Rate 30 88 60 671946473 OK: Value is normal
09 Power-On Time Count 0 77 77 20904 OK: Always passing
0A Spin Retry Count 97 100 100 0 OK: Value is normal
0C Power Cycle Count 20 100 100 124 OK: Value is normal
C2 Temperature 0 51 62 51 OK: Always passing
C3 Hardware ECC Recovered 0 48 45 217939840 OK: Always passing

C5 Current Pending Sector Count 0 100 100 13 OK: Always passing
C6 Off-Line Uncorrect. Sect. Cnt0 100 100 13 OK: Always passing

Those two are the main problem. They may go away if the drive is kept
cooler.

C7 Ultra ATA CRC Error Rate 0 200 199 2 OK: Always passing
C8 Write Error Rate 0 100 253 0 OK: Always passing
CA <vendor-specific> 0 100 253 0 OK: Always passing

Well, here's a progress report:
- I cleaned the chassis air intake filter. I hadn't done it in 1+ yrs,
Antec recommends monthly - reduced boot drive temp by about 6degF - I
increased the chassis fan speed. My Antec Sonata has a 3-connector
fan-only power supply that I'd been using that makes for a very quiet,
multimedia machine. However, I'm also a power user and Antec recommends
switching to the regular 4-connector (12V?) peripherals power connectors
for heavy users. This dropped the boot drive temp by another 10degF
But the fan is now too noisy :-(
By this time, the Current Pending and Off-Line Uncorrectable Sector Counts
had dropped to 2.
- Defragged the boot drive. No impact on Pending and Uncorrectable sector
counts.
- Took the opportunity to replace my 120GB but 96% full Seagate data drive
with a 400GB WD that I'd bought for the purpose a couple of weeks ago.
That's running very cool (95-97degF)

So here's how my boot drive SMART data looks now. The disk is now running
102-104degF, and spikes up to 113degF under a heavy load (like defrag):

[ ST3120026AS (3JT3L58N) ]

01 Raw Read Error Rate 6 50 45 214683915 OK: Value is normal 03
Spin Up Time 0 97 96 0 OK: Always passing 04
Start/Stop Count 20 100 100 20 OK: Value is normal 05
Reallocated Sector Count 36 100 100 0 OK: Value is normal 07
Seek Error Rate 30 88 60 674168008 OK: Value is normal 09
Power-On Time Count 0 77 77 20928 OK: Always passing 0A
Spin Retry Count 97 100 100 0 OK: Value is normal 0C
Power Cycle Count 20 100 100 127 OK: Value is normal C2
Temperature 0 39 62 39 OK: Always passing C3
Hardware ECC Recovered 0 50 45 214683915 OK: Always passing C5
Current Pending Sect. Cnt 0 100 100 2 OK: Always passing C6
Off-Line Uncorr. Sect. Cnt 0 100 100 2 OK: Always passing C7
Ultra ATA CRC Error Rate 0 200 199 2 OK: Always passing C8
Write Error Rate 0 100 253 0 OK: Always passing CA
<vendor-specific> 0 100 253 0 OK: Always passing

Try running Seagate's diagnostic on the drives.

That'll be next today. I did the quick scan which (not surprisingly) said
there were defects. I'll leave the PC on a surface scan when I go to
work.

Thanks for all the tip! I'm jazzed that I may not need to replace my boot
drive. I'll recycle the data drive as a boot drive for another PC at some
point...

Regards,

Bill

I always use Seagate's DiscWizard to clone an old drive to the new
drive. Except for the dual boot linux configured partitions on the drives
DiscWizard has never failed to clone the old Win partitions drive.

Gparted LiveCD to resized partitions.

 

[Rod Speed]

Bill wrote

[ ST3120026AS (3JT3L58N) ]

01 Raw Read Error Rate 6 48 45 217939840 OK: Value is
normal 03 Spin Up Time 0 97 96 0 OK:
Always passing 04 Start/Stop Count 20 100 100 20
OK: Value is normal 05 Reallocated Sector Count 36 100 100
0 OK: Value is normal 07 Seek Error Rate 30 88 60
671946473 OK: Value is normal 09 Power-On Time Count 0 77
77 20904 OK: Always passing 0A Spin Retry Count 97
100 100 0 OK: Value is normal 0C Power Cycle Count
20 100 100 124 OK: Value is normal C2 Temperature
0 51 62 51 OK: Always passing C3 Hardware ECC Recovered
0 48 45 217939840 OK: Always passing

C5 Current Pending Sector Count 0 100 100 13 OK: Always
passing C6 Off-Line Uncorrect. Sect. Cnt0 100 100 13 OK:
Always passing

Those two are the main problem. They may go away if the drive is
kept cooler.

C7 Ultra ATA CRC Error Rate 0 200 199 2 OK: Always
passing C8 Write Error Rate 0 100 253 0 OK:
Always passing CA <vendor-specific> 0 100 253 0
OK: Always passing

Well, here's a progress report:
- I cleaned the chassis air intake filter. I hadn't done it in 1+
yrs, Antec recommends monthly - reduced boot drive temp by about
6degF - I increased the chassis fan speed. My Antec Sonata has a
3-connector fan-only power supply that I'd been using that makes for
a very quiet, multimedia machine. However, I'm also a power user
and Antec recommends switching to the regular 4-connector (12V?)
peripherals power connectors for heavy users. This dropped the boot
drive temp by another 10degF But the fan is now too noisy :-(
By this time, the Current Pending and Off-Line Uncorrectable Sector
Counts had dropped to 2.
- Defragged the boot drive. No impact on Pending and Uncorrectable
sector counts.
- Took the opportunity to replace my 120GB but 96% full Seagate data
drive with a 400GB WD that I'd bought for the purpose a couple of
weeks ago. That's running very cool (95-97degF)

So here's how my boot drive SMART data looks now. The disk is now
running 102-104degF, and spikes up to 113degF under a heavy load
(like defrag):

[ ST3120026AS (3JT3L58N) ]

01 Raw Read Error Rate 6 50 45 214683915 OK: Value is
normal 03 Spin Up Time 0 97 96 0 OK:
Always passing 04 Start/Stop Count 20 100 100 20
OK: Value is normal 05 Reallocated Sector Count 36 100 100
0 OK: Value is normal 07 Seek Error Rate 30 88 60
674168008 OK: Value is normal 09 Power-On Time Count 0 77
77 20928 OK: Always passing 0A Spin Retry Count 97
100 100 0 OK: Value is normal 0C Power Cycle Count
20 100 100 127 OK: Value is normal C2 Temperature
0 39 62 39 OK: Always passing C3 Hardware ECC Recovered
0 50 45 214683915 OK: Always passing C5 Current Pending Sect.
Cnt 0 100 100 2 OK: Always passing C6 Off-Line Uncorr.
Sect. Cnt 0 100 100 2 OK: Always passing C7 Ultra ATA CRC
Error Rate 0 200 199 2 OK: Always passing C8 Write Error
Rate 0 100 253 0 OK: Always passing CA
<vendor-specific> 0 100 253 0 OK: Always passing

Try running Seagate's diagnostic on the drives.

That'll be next today. I did the quick scan which (not
surprisingly) said there were defects. I'll leave the PC on a
surface scan when I go to work.

Thanks for all the tip! I'm jazzed that I may not need to replace
my boot drive. I'll recycle the data drive as a boot drive for
another PC at some point...

I always use Seagate's DiscWizard to clone an old drive to the new
drive. Except for the dual boot linux configured partitions on the drives
DiscWizard has never failed to clone the old Win partitions drive.

Someone has just reported a problem with it in his config.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage/msg/fcd393a7fd5b8609

 

[jaster]

Bill wrote

Rod Speed wrote:


[ ST3120026AS (3JT3L58N) ]

01 Raw Read Error Rate 6 48 45 217939840 OK: Value is
normal 03 Spin Up Time 0 97 96 0 OK: Always
passing 04 Start/Stop Count 20 100 100 20 OK: Value
is normal 05 Reallocated Sector Count 36 100 100 0 OK: Value is
normal 07 Seek Error Rate 30 88 60 671946473 OK: Value
is normal 09 Power-On Time Count 0 77 77 20904 OK:
Always passing 0A Spin Retry Count 97 100 100 0 OK:
Value is normal 0C Power Cycle Count 20 100 100 124 OK: Value
is normal C2 Temperature 0 51 62 51 OK: Always passing C3
Hardware ECC Recovered 0 48 45 217939840 OK: Always passing

C5 Current Pending Sector Count 0 100 100 13 OK: Always
passing C6 Off-Line Uncorrect. Sect. Cnt0 100 100 13 OK:
Always passing

Those two are the main problem. They may go away if the drive is kept
cooler.

C7 Ultra ATA CRC Error Rate 0 200 199 2 OK: Always
passing C8 Write Error Rate 0 100 253 0 OK:
Always passing CA <vendor-specific> 0 100 253 0
OK: Always passing



Well, here's a progress report:
- I cleaned the chassis air intake filter. I hadn't done it in 1+ yrs,
Antec recommends monthly - reduced boot drive temp by about 6degF -
I increased the chassis fan speed. My Antec Sonata has a 3-connector
fan-only power supply that I'd been using that makes for a very quiet,
multimedia machine. However, I'm also a power user and Antec
recommends switching to the regular 4-connector (12V?) peripherals
power connectors for heavy users. This dropped the boot
drive temp by another 10degF But the fan is now too noisy :-(
By this time, the Current Pending and Off-Line Uncorrectable Sector
Counts had dropped to 2.
- Defragged the boot drive. No impact on Pending and Uncorrectable
sector counts.
- Took the opportunity to replace my 120GB but 96% full Seagate data
drive with a 400GB WD that I'd bought for the purpose a couple of weeks
ago. That's running very cool (95-97degF)

So here's how my boot drive SMART data looks now. The disk is now
running 102-104degF, and spikes up to 113degF under a heavy load (like
defrag):

[ ST3120026AS (3JT3L58N) ]

01 Raw Read Error Rate 6 50 45 214683915 OK: Value is normal
03 Spin Up Time 0 97 96 0 OK: Always passing
04 Start/Stop Count 20 100 100 20 OK: Value is normal
05 Reallocated Sector Count 36 100 100 0 OK: Value is normal 07 Seek
Error Rate 30 88 60 674168008 OK: Value is normal 09
Power-On Time Count 0 77 77 20928 OK: Always passing 0A
Spin Retry Count 97 100 100 0 OK: Value is normal 0C
Power Cycle Count 20 100 100 127 OK: Value is normal C2
Temperature 0 39 62 39 OK: Always passing C3 Hardware ECC
Recovered 0 50 45 214683915 OK: Always passing C5 Current Pending
Sect. Cnt 0 100 100 2 OK: Always passing C6 Off-Line Uncorr.
Sect. Cnt 0 100 100 2 OK: Always passing C7 Ultra ATA CRC
Error Rate 0 200 199 2 OK: Always passing C8 Write Error
Rate 0 100 253 0 OK: Always passing CA
<vendor-specific> 0 100 253 0 OK: Always passing



Try running Seagate's diagnostic on the drives.



That'll be next today. I did the quick scan which (not surprisingly)
said there were defects. I'll leave the PC on a surface scan when I go
to work.

Thanks for all the tip! I'm jazzed that I may not need to replace my
boot drive. I'll recycle the data drive as a boot drive for another PC
at some point...

I always use Seagate's DiscWizard to clone an old drive to the new
drive. Except for the dual boot linux configured partitions on the
drives DiscWizard has never failed to clone the old Win partitions
drive.

Someone has just reported a problem with it in his config.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage/msg/fcd393a7fd5b8609

Hmm, lost icons. I forgot I lost Norton AV using DiscWizard going from
IDE to a larger SATA. The subscription was out of date, I was tired of
NAV bogging the system and registry anyway so I just switched to free AVG.
IMO, it's the XP 137GB limitation, ie, 80GB going to 320GB.

For a free utility that comes with the drive DiscWizard is still 97%
effective.