Still can't boot from old drive with new SATA drive installed.

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Terry

I have a KT7A Raid mobo. I am not using the existing IDE Raid
connectors. I have 3 IDE drives installed and I boot from one of
them. I am not planning to use any of the drives for RAID.

I just put in a SATA card and when I do the boot hangs. The new drive
was formatted with XP, but I don't plan to use the drive for booting.

At boot time I get a message that the card is installed and it lists
the drive, but then it hangs. It says press F4 for RAID options.
Pressing F4 does nothing. I can unplug the drive and it will boot
with the card. I get the feeling that it might be trying to read some
of the boot information from the new drive.

When I look at the bios I can see all the IDE drives, but the new SATA
drive is not listed. My hard drive boot options are hd0-3 and I am
currently booting from hd0.

Can putting the new drive be changing the drive letters even if it is
not being reported in the bios? How can I tell?

Thanks?
 
Terry said:
I have a KT7A Raid mobo. I am not using the existing IDE
Raid connectors. I have 3 IDE drives installed and I boot
from one of them. I am not planning to use any of the drives
for RAID.

I just put in a SATA card and when I do the boot hangs.
The new drive was formatted with XP, but I don't plan to
use the drive for booting.

At boot time I get a message that the card is installed and it lists
the drive, but then it hangs. It says press F4 for RAID options.
Pressing F4 does nothing. I can unplug the drive and it will boot
with the card. I get the feeling that it might be trying to read some
of the boot information from the new drive.

When I look at the bios I can see all the IDE drives, but the
new SATA drive is not listed. My hard drive boot options
are hd0-3 and I am currently booting from hd0.

Can putting the new drive be changing the drive letters even
if it is not being reported in the bios? How can I tell?
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It's not clear if "hd0" is the IDE HD from which you can
successfully boot from, or if it's the SATA HD. If by putting
in the SATA card, the SATA HD becomes "hd0", that is
the problem - the BIOS now thinks the SATA HD is at
the head of the HD Boot Order, and it tries to pass control
to the SATA HD's MBR. Assuming that the BIOS can
see the SATA HD, adjust the HD Boot Order so that the
previously booting IDE HD has the hightest priority.

*TimDaniels*
 
It's not clear if "hd0" is the IDE HD from which you can
successfully boot from, or if it's the SATA HD. If by putting
in the SATA card, the SATA HD becomes "hd0", that is
the problem - the BIOS now thinks the SATA HD is at
the head of the HD Boot Order, and it tries to pass control
to the SATA HD's MBR. Assuming that the BIOS can
see the SATA HD, adjust the HD Boot Order so that the
previously booting IDE HD has the hightest priority.
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It is not clear to me either. :)
I guess the next thing I could try is to just cycle through the boot
drives and see if I get a boot.

The drive I currently boot from is hd0 and it is an IDE.

The new drive is an SATA. The thing is though, if it were trying to
boot from the SATA it still should. It was a boot drive in another
machine.
 
....

If I were you, I might also post to the storage group, they
specialize in hard drives.

Good luck.
 
Terry said:
It is not clear to me either. :)
I guess the next thing I could try is to just cycle through the boot
drives and see if I get a boot.

The drive I currently boot from is hd0 and it is an IDE.

The new drive is an SATA. The thing is though, if it were trying to
boot from the SATA it still should. It was a boot drive in another
machine.
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You haven't said what is on the new SATA HD. What is on the
new SATA HD such that you'd expect that it would boot an OS?

As your first experiment, I suggest that you find the IDE HD that
you had previously been able to boot from and put it at the head
of the BIOS's Hard Drive Boot Order.

*TimDaniels*
 
I have a KT7A Raid mobo. I am not using the existing IDE Raid
connectors. I have 3 IDE drives installed and I boot from one of
them. I am not planning to use any of the drives for RAID.

I just put in a SATA card and when I do the boot hangs. The new drive
was formatted with XP, but I don't plan to use the drive for booting.

At boot time I get a message that the card is installed and it lists
the drive, but then it hangs. It says press F4 for RAID options.
Pressing F4 does nothing. I can unplug the drive and it will boot
with the card. I get the feeling that it might be trying to read some
of the boot information from the new drive.

When I look at the bios I can see all the IDE drives, but the new SATA
drive is not listed. My hard drive boot options are hd0-3 and I am
currently booting from hd0.

Can putting the new drive be changing the drive letters even if it is
not being reported in the bios? How can I tell?
Click to expand...

Try connecting an SATA disk drive that has nothing on it, i.e., like
it's brand new and just came out of the box with no partitions on it.
 
You haven't said what is on the new SATA HD. What is on the
new SATA HD such that you'd expect that it would boot an OS?

As your first experiment, I suggest that you find the IDE HD that
you had previously been able to boot from and put it at the head
of the BIOS's Hard Drive Boot Order.
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Hi.
The boot drive is at the first of the boot order. (I think)
As far as I know, I don't think I have a choice. I think my bios
assigns drives like this:

Primary Master=0
Primary Slave=1
Secondary Master=2
Secondary Slave=3

I am really not sure how adding a PCI and SATA changes anything. I
don't want to boot from the SATA, but I don't even know how I could.

The options I have for boot 1-3 are:
Floppy
LS120
HD0-3
SCSI
CD Rom
Zip100
LAN
ATA 100 RAID

I don't even have a disable option.
I have boot 1-3 all set to HD0
This will boot the machine fine.

Plugging in the SATA doesn't seem to change anything in the BIOS.

I have tried plugging in the SATA after the boot and it works fine.
What other options may I have to be able to boot with the SATA drive
plugged in?

Thank you for your time.
 
"Terry"
The boot drive is at the first of the boot order. (I think)
As far as I know, I don't think I have a choice. I think my bios
assigns drives like this:

Primary Master=0
Primary Slave=1
Secondary Master=2
Secondary Slave=3

I am really not sure how adding a PCI and SATA changes anything.
I don't want to boot from the SATA, but I don't even know how I
could.

The options I have for boot 1-3 are:
Floppy
LS120
HD0-3
SCSI
CD Rom
Zip100
LAN
ATA 100 RAID

I don't even have a disable option.
I have boot 1-3 all set to HD0
This will boot the machine fine.

Plugging in the SATA doesn't seem to change anything in the
BIOS.

I have tried plugging in the SATA after the boot and it works
fine. What other options may I have to be able to boot with
the SATA drive plugged in?
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You have listed your BIOS's default Hard Drive Boot Order,
but you don't say whether that boot order can be adjusted.
(It can in most BIOSes) and whether that is the current
Hard Drive Boot Order (which, in this case, should only have
3 entries since there are only 3 visible hard drives). If there
are 4 entries, one of them may be the SATA HD. Make
sure that it is not being given the highest boot priority as hd0.

You have listed the options in the Device Boot Order, but you
don't say whether that is the current Device Boot Order. It
may be that the SATA card is being called "SCSI", and that
"SCSI" has a higher Device Boot Priority than any of the HDs.
Check the current Device Boot Order, and be sure the hard
drives have a higher priority than the "SCSI" card.

And please explain your statement, "The options I have for
boot 1-3 are:". What does "boot 1-3" mean?

*TimDaniels*
 
"Terry"













You have listed your BIOS's default Hard Drive Boot Order,
but you don't say whether that boot order can be adjusted.
(It can in most BIOSes) and whether that is the current
Hard Drive Boot Order (which, in this case, should only have
3 entries since there are only 3 visible hard drives). If there
are 4 entries, one of them may be the SATA HD. Make
sure that it is not being given the highest boot priority as hd0.

You have listed the options in the Device Boot Order, but you
don't say whether that is the current Device Boot Order. It
may be that the SATA card is being called "SCSI", and that
"SCSI" has a higher Device Boot Priority than any of the HDs.
Check the current Device Boot Order, and be sure the hard
drives have a higher priority than the "SCSI" card.

And please explain your statement, "The options I have for
boot 1-3 are:". What does "boot 1-3" mean?
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Boot 1st device
Bood 2nd device
Boot 3rd device.

I have all of them set to hd0

I tried booting from hhd0 -hhd3
Hhd0 is the current drive and it it the only drive that will boot.
From watching the boot screen, it is hanging right after getting the
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SATA information.
It says primary none.
then it says secondary wd500g or something like that. The new SATA
drive is a Western Digital 500G

Nothing i have been able to do will let it go past the PCI card drive
check.

Thank you for you time.
 
Terry said:
Boot 1st device
Bood 2nd device
Boot 3rd device.

I have all of them set to hd0

I tried booting from hhd0 -hhd3
Hhd0 is the current drive and it it the only drive that will boot.

SATA information.
It says primary none.
then it says secondary wd500g or something like that. The new SATA
drive is a Western Digital 500G

Nothing i have been able to do will let it go past the PCI card drive
check.

Thank you for you time.
Click to expand...

Does your SATA card have its own bios?
I have read through and I do not see where you answered this.
 
Does your SATA card have its own bios?
I have read through and I do not see where you answered this
Click to expand...

I think it does. I get a message saying press F4 for RAID options,
but pressing F4 doesn't do anything. I assume that because I only
have one SATA drive that there would be no RAID options.

The message says SiL 3112A SATA RAID.

Thanks for your time.
 
Terry said:
Boot 1st device
Bood 2nd device
Boot 3rd device.

I have all of them set to hd0

I tried booting from hhd0 -hhd3
Hhd0 is the current drive and it it the only drive that will boot.

SATA information.
It says primary none.
then it says secondary wd500g or something like that. The new SATA
drive is a Western Digital 500G

Nothing i have been able to do will let it go past the PCI card drive
check.
Click to expand...


It consistently appears that the SATA PCI card and the sole SATA
HD connected to it are changing the Hard Drive Boot Order. Since
I'm unfamiliar with the Award BIOS on your Abit motherboard, I
suggest at this point that you contact Abit.

*TimDaniels*
 
I think it does. I get a message saying press F4 for RAID options, but
pressing F4 doesn't do anything. I assume that because I only have one
SATA drive that there would be no RAID options.

The message says SiL 3112A SATA RAID.

Thanks for your time.
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Does your pc have the bios option boot "other devices" turned on?

If the SATA card has it's own bios then you might need to change the bios
on the SATA card. Sounds like the PCI SATA card boots the drive if
attached so disconnect the SATA. Boot normally then us SATA PCI card's
CD to reset the card's bios.

You could check to see if there's a bios fix for the PCI card.
 
I have a KT7A Raid mobo. I am not using the existing IDE Raid
connectors. I have 3 IDE drives installed and I boot from one of
them. I am not planning to use any of the drives for RAID.

I just put in a SATA card and when I do the boot hangs. The new drive
was formatted with XP, but I don't plan to use the drive for booting.

At boot time I get a message that the card is installed and it lists
the drive, but then it hangs. It says press F4 for RAID options.
Pressing F4 does nothing. I can unplug the drive and it will boot
with the card. I get the feeling that it might be trying to read some
of the boot information from the new drive.

When I look at the bios I can see all the IDE drives, but the new SATA
drive is not listed. My hard drive boot options are hd0-3 and I am
currently booting from hd0.

Can putting the new drive be changing the drive letters even if it is
not being reported in the bios? How can I tell?
Click to expand...
The problem turned out to be the controller card.
Replacing it seems to have fixed the problem.

Thanks to everyone for the suggestions.
 
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