Startup programs -Defender -Vista

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To access the startup programs, in Vista U 32 bits, you must use Defender,
which by the way have been disabled by Windows Live OneCare. If changes are
made to any of the Starting Programs shown in Defender, it is inmediately
enabled, and stays as such until the next restart. No way you can disable in
About, nor I can have the "Show me the antispyware programs on this computer"
option shown in the Security Center , Malware Protection.
If I turn off the Defender Automatic Scanning, will it still be in conflict
with WLOC, even if I am not using it for its original malware purposes? Why
can't Defender stay enabled, just to be used for startup programs monitoring?
For additional info, my Defender show:
Version : 1.1.1505.0
Engine : 1.1.2101.0
Definitions : 1.15.2233.6

Efrain
 
Hi Tim:

I want to always control and watch my startup programs. Also I try to keep
them to only the necessary ones, which for me are:
1.Microsoft CoReXT : for Windows Live OneCare
2.Microsoft Operating System : for Vista
3.Logitech Setpoint : for my mouse
4.Logitech Hardware Abstraction Layer : also for my mouse
I have disabled (never ever delete) the other 9.
The NirSoft Startup failed Vista compatibility and Mike Lin is impossible to
remove after installation in the Control Panel. Those 2 I used when I had XP
Pro.
Vista U 32 bits has a startup control program that you can access(without
going through the msconfig process) as follows:
Control Panel > Administrative Tools > right click System Configuration and
select Pin to Start Menu. Now the startup can be monitored easily opening the
Startup tab.

Efrain
 
I need to look at this on Vista, but I would guess this app is a relative of
msconfig on an XP system. Sometimes a startup item can have non-obvious
benefits or side effects--its worth doing some research into what those
things you are not starting do for a living.

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It is exactly msconfig with a different view. Much, much better.

The programs I stopped are:
Windows Defender : Microsoft
Quick Time Task : Apple
iTunes Helper : Apple
Sun Java Update Scheduler : Sun
Ct Helper Application : Creative
CTX fi Hlp Application : Creative
Adobe Acrobat : Adobe
Adobe Reader Synchronizer : Adobe
Common SDK : Sonic

I have a popup at startup telling me that I have some programs disabled. I
have to look for a way to stop this notice.
 
For what it is worth:

Quicktime - leave qttask.exe alone - change Quicktime preferences->Advanced,
uncheck tray icon box.

Itunes Helper - no good doc about what it really does - however, if you
delete it and tell Itunes not to check for updates and play with some of the
Itunes options, it will not reappear.

Sun Java updater - does what it says when new updates are available. That
one is up to you. I usually delete it. Every now and then, I just uninstall
the Sun Java runtime in add/remove programs and do a fresh install whenever
the version/level changes.

Creative does provide some doc in their problem database, but I think it is
out-dated. I leave the Creative stuff alone (mainly because I don't have a
good picture of what these tasks do). I am using X-Fi sound card.

Adobe stuff can go (obviously you have Version 8). You might want to look
at Foxit Reader as an alternative.

I haven't used Sonic software in years - don't know.
 
There's probably a way to stop that notice--there is on XP, anyway.
Thanks--I'll have a look at that in Vista.

I would leave Windows Defender, myself, because that's protective software.
The other stuff either is related to checking for updates, or enabling a
given app to launch more quickly. I'm not clear the functionality of those
Creative and Sonic pieces, but I suspect they are similar.

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Hi Bill:
I have tested and retested changes to the Startup Programs for hours , and
this is what I think is happening. I took for my experiment the Roxio
RecordNow 9 for file and music copying. My original Dell XPS OEM had this
program, I had it always disabled from the startup, and Windows Installation
Adviser considered it non compatible for Vista Ultimate, and I could not
force Vista into intalling it. I purchased and downloaded RN 9 which is Vista
compatible. When checking the Abouts of this program, I discovered that it
had information related to Operating System, Windows Version, Processor,
Total Memory, Total Available Memory, and Disk Space. Somehow this is the
summary that validates the compatibility of the program with the PC and the
Vista version.
I also found that RN 9 had been included in the Software Manager, that keeps
the programs up-to-date with the latest security patches, improvements and
bug fixes.
Conclusion: I will not tamper with the Startup Programs, that Vista has
ordered to run, for I can get into trouble and screw up my new toy. Thanks.
Efrain
 
It has been a popular game to look at startup items, and services, and
disable ones that you view as non-essential. I sure wouldn't say it is
always a bad idea--but not many of us, and I'd sure include myself, know
enough to be absolutely certain about all those items.

Vista is better locked down than ever before, in terms of having code
running which is non-essential. My own observation about Adobe Reader, as
an example, is that the startup items really do make a significant
difference in perceived speed of app launch, and don't seem to take a lot of
time.

With an old machine running a new OS, you might be tempted to try to really
pare back what's running because of hardware constraints. I have XP
machines running on 4 gig drives that I have to constantly fight to keep a
reasonable amount of free space on--and then some poor sucker decides to
install Google Desktop! (Sorry Charlie, that just isn't going to work on
this old box--wait 'til we get you an upgrade.....)

But--with a new box specced for Vista, I'd rather try to stress the new
features and see how all that stuff works, rather than spend time
tuning--there really ought to be resources to spare.

So--good choice, I think--let that stuff go and enjoy it.

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