Startup problems

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Bill Wittmer

I put together a system using an Asus P4P800 VM motherboard, and Intel 3.0
CPU, an Antec 40 watt PSU, a Western Digital Cavier 200 GB SATA hard drive
and 1024 Mb's of Crucial DDR PC 3200 memory. Windows XP Home was installed
on the system. The computer was working fine for about 4 months and then it
began to take about 5 minutes for the computer to boot. I thought is was a
software issue and did everything from doing a System Restore, doing a
repair install to doing a total wipe of the hard drive and doing a fresh
install. Booting would take 5 minutes or more still. I put in another hard
drive, used a new SATA cable, and checked the memory with no luck. I found
that when using diagnostic software, using a floppy disk and booting into
DOS, it would still take several minutes before I would get the prompt
command or the diagnostic program would begin to run. So whether I boot
into Windows, DOS or use a Linux based diagnostic program, it can take 5
minutes or more for the program to start. I am looking at a hardware issue
and have no idea as to what else could be causing my problem. If anyone has
any ideas, I would greatly appreciate any help.
 
Bill Wittmer said:
I put together a system using an Asus P4P800 VM motherboard, and Intel 3.0
CPU, an Antec 40 watt PSU, a Western Digital Cavier 200 GB SATA hard drive
and 1024 Mb's of Crucial DDR PC 3200 memory. Windows XP Home was installed
on the system. The computer was working fine for about 4 months and then
it began to take about 5 minutes for the computer to boot. I thought is
was a software issue and did everything from doing a System Restore, doing
a repair install to doing a total wipe of the hard drive and doing a fresh
install. Booting would take 5 minutes or more still. I put in another
hard drive, used a new SATA cable, and checked the memory with no luck. I
found that when using diagnostic software, using a floppy disk and booting
into DOS, it would still take several minutes before I would get the prompt
command or the diagnostic program would begin to run. So whether I boot
into Windows, DOS or use a Linux based diagnostic program, it can take 5
minutes or more for the program to start. I am looking at a hardware issue
and have no idea as to what else could be causing my problem. If anyone
has any ideas, I would greatly appreciate any help.
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OK, your computer must run POST before it boots. This program is run by the
CPU, with support from the mainboard, and is stored in BIOS. Although I
haven't seen this before, it is theoretically possible that funky CMOS
settings (variable settings of BIOS) could affect the POST procedure. First
thing I would try is to remove the CMOS battery (probably a CR2032 button
battery) from the mainboard. Leave it out for about 15 minutes. While the
battery is out, find the "clear CMOS" jumper on the mainboard and set it
into the position to CLEAR CMOS settings. Again, leave this jumper set to
clear for about 15 minutes. Of course the computer should be powered off
and unplugged while you are doing this. :)

Then after about 15 minutes, reinstall the battery and set the clear CMOS
jumper to the normal/run position.

I'd be surprised if that doesn't fix the problem.

If the symptom changes, but it's still taking longer than normal to boot . .
..

You might as a last resort try updating the BIOS of the mainboard. You can
find instructions for doing that at the Asus web site. Follow them
carefully, or your mainboard is history. -Dave
 
Mike T. said:
OK, your computer must run POST before it boots. This program is run by
the CPU, with support from the mainboard, and is stored in BIOS. Although
I haven't seen this before, it is theoretically possible that funky CMOS
settings (variable settings of BIOS) could affect the POST procedure.
First thing I would try is to remove the CMOS battery (probably a CR2032
button battery) from the mainboard. Leave it out for about 15 minutes.
While the battery is out, find the "clear CMOS" jumper on the mainboard
and set it into the position to CLEAR CMOS settings. Again, leave this
jumper set to clear for about 15 minutes. Of course the computer should
be powered off and unplugged while you are doing this. :)

Then after about 15 minutes, reinstall the battery and set the clear CMOS
jumper to the normal/run position.

I'd be surprised if that doesn't fix the problem.

If the symptom changes, but it's still taking longer than normal to boot .
. .

You might as a last resort try updating the BIOS of the mainboard. You
can find instructions for doing that at the Asus web site. Follow them
carefully, or your mainboard is history. -Dave
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Check BIOS settings, this result occurs if CPU cache is disabled. The
reset described above may well clear your problem. If your BIOS has
'Optimum' or 'Performance' setting, that is also worth trying.
Mike.
 
Mike T. said:
OK, your computer must run POST before it boots. This program is run by
the CPU, with support from the mainboard, and is stored in BIOS. Although
I haven't seen this before, it is theoretically possible that funky CMOS
settings (variable settings of BIOS) could affect the POST procedure.
First thing I would try is to remove the CMOS battery (probably a CR2032
button battery) from the mainboard. Leave it out for about 15 minutes.
While the battery is out, find the "clear CMOS" jumper on the mainboard
and set it into the position to CLEAR CMOS settings. Again, leave this
jumper set to clear for about 15 minutes. Of course the computer should
be powered off and unplugged while you are doing this. :)

Then after about 15 minutes, reinstall the battery and set the clear CMOS
jumper to the normal/run position.

I'd be surprised if that doesn't fix the problem.

If the symptom changes, but it's still taking longer than normal to boot .
. .

You might as a last resort try updating the BIOS of the mainboard. You
can find instructions for doing that at the Asus web site. Follow them
carefully, or your mainboard is history. -Dave
Click to expand...
Thanks for your response, but I am in worst shape than I was before. I
turned off the computer and unplugged it. I removed the CMOS battery and
then I moved the "Clear CMOS Jumper" to the clear position. About an hour
later I came back to the computer, set the jumper back to the normal
position and replaced the battery. When I started up the computer, it
immediately started running the BIOS setup without my having hit the
"delete" key during startup. Then the following message appeared:
CMOS Settings Wrong
CMOS Date/Time Not Set
Chassis Intruded!
Fatal Error...System Halted

This is as far as I can go. If I can get into the BIOS settings I can enter
the necessary settings. However, whether I hit the "delete" key or not, the
BIOS setup automatically begins and then ends with the above error message
and then it stops, not allowing me to go any further and that includes going
into the Windows startup. Is there any hope for my situation or should I
just go and get my shotgun and drag the computer outside and use if for
target practice.

Bill
 
Mike T. said:
OK, your computer must run POST before it boots. This program is run by
the CPU, with support from the mainboard, and is stored in BIOS. Although
I haven't seen this before, it is theoretically possible that funky CMOS
settings (variable settings of BIOS) could affect the POST procedure.
First thing I would try is to remove the CMOS battery (probably a CR2032
button battery) from the mainboard. Leave it out for about 15 minutes.
While the battery is out, find the "clear CMOS" jumper on the mainboard
and set it into the position to CLEAR CMOS settings. Again, leave this
jumper set to clear for about 15 minutes. Of course the computer should
be powered off and unplugged while you are doing this. :)

Then after about 15 minutes, reinstall the battery and set the clear CMOS
jumper to the normal/run position.

I'd be surprised if that doesn't fix the problem.

If the symptom changes, but it's still taking longer than normal to boot .
. .

You might as a last resort try updating the BIOS of the mainboard. You
can find instructions for doing that at the Asus web site. Follow them
carefully, or your mainboard is history. -Dave
Click to expand...
Thanks for your response, but I am in worst shape than I was before. I
turned off the computer and unplugged it. I removed the CMOS battery and
then I moved the "Clear CMOS Jumper" to the clear position. About an hour
later I came back to the computer, set the jumper back to the normal
position and replaced the battery. When I started up the computer, it
immediately started running the BIOS setup without my having hit the
"delete" key during startup. Then the following message appeared:
CMOS Settings Wrong
CMOS Date/Time Not Set
Chassis Intruded!
Fatal Error...System Halted

This is as far as I can go. If I can get into the BIOS settings I can enter
the necessary settings. However, whether I hit the "delete" key or not, the
BIOS setup automatically begins and then ends with the above error message
and then it stops, not allowing me to go any further and that includes going
into the Windows startup. Is there any hope for my situation or should I
just go and get my shotgun and drag the computer outside and use if for
target practice.

Bill
 
Mike T. said:
OK, your computer must run POST before it boots. This program is run by
the CPU, with support from the mainboard, and is stored in BIOS. Although
I haven't seen this before, it is theoretically possible that funky CMOS
settings (variable settings of BIOS) could affect the POST procedure.
First thing I would try is to remove the CMOS battery (probably a CR2032
button battery) from the mainboard. Leave it out for about 15 minutes.
While the battery is out, find the "clear CMOS" jumper on the mainboard
and set it into the position to CLEAR CMOS settings. Again, leave this
jumper set to clear for about 15 minutes. Of course the computer should
be powered off and unplugged while you are doing this. :)

Then after about 15 minutes, reinstall the battery and set the clear CMOS
jumper to the normal/run position.

I'd be surprised if that doesn't fix the problem.

If the symptom changes, but it's still taking longer than normal to boot .
. .

You might as a last resort try updating the BIOS of the mainboard. You
can find instructions for doing that at the Asus web site. Follow them
carefully, or your mainboard is history. -Dave
Click to expand...
Thanks for your response, but I am in worst shape than I was before. I
turned off the computer and unplugged it. I removed the CMOS battery and
then I moved the "Clear CMOS Jumper" to the clear position. About an hour
later I came back to the computer, set the jumper back to the normal
position and replaced the battery. When I started up the computer, it
immediately started running the BIOS setup without my having hit the
"delete" key during startup. Then the following message appeared:
CMOS Settings Wrong
CMOS Date/Time Not Set
Chassis Intruded!
Fatal Error...System Halted

This is as far as I can go. If I can get into the BIOS settings I can enter
the necessary settings. However, whether I hit the "delete" key or not, the
BIOS setup automatically begins and then ends with the above error message
and then it stops, not allowing me to go any further and that includes going
into the Windows startup. Is there any hope for my situation or should I
just go and get my shotgun and drag the computer outside and use if for
target practice.

Bill
 
Sorry about the multiple messages. Outlook Express kept telling me that it
could not send the message when it did in fact send it.

Bill
 
Bill Wittmer said:
Thanks for your response, but I am in worst shape than I was before. I
turned off the computer and unplugged it. I removed the CMOS battery and
then I moved the "Clear CMOS Jumper" to the clear position. About an hour
later I came back to the computer, set the jumper back to the normal
position and replaced the battery. When I started up the computer, it
immediately started running the BIOS setup without my having hit the
"delete" key during startup. Then the following message appeared:
CMOS Settings Wrong
CMOS Date/Time Not Set
Chassis Intruded!
Fatal Error...System Halted

This is as far as I can go. If I can get into the BIOS settings I can enter
the necessary settings. However, whether I hit the "delete" key or not, the
BIOS setup automatically begins and then ends with the above error message
and then it stops, not allowing me to go any further and that includes going
into the Windows startup. Is there any hope for my situation or should I
just go and get my shotgun and drag the computer outside and use if for
target practice.

Bill
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Hey no problem this is normal
go into bios and load safe boot defaults (or performance defaults if you
feel confident) ((option usually at the bottom of the first screen))
Disable onboard (integrated) sound for now
 
JAD said:
Hey no problem this is normal
go into bios and load safe boot defaults (or performance defaults if you
feel confident) ((option usually at the bottom of the first screen))
Disable onboard (integrated) sound for now
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JAD
Thanks for the help, I was finally able to get into the BIOS setup and
was able to load the default setting. The system is now starting up at
normal speed.

Regards,
Bill
 
JAD
Thanks for the help, I was finally able to get into the BIOS setup and
was able to load the default setting. The system is now starting up at
normal speed.

Regards,
Bill
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COOL! Sorry I wasn't around when you first posted the CMOS clear seemed to
screw things up worse, but it looks like someone else pointed you in the
right direction. -Dave
 
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