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Windows Vista will not start. I have tried to repair and restore prior time
period. No luck. Suggestions are to remove any new Plug ins...(done). I saw
an earlier answer that mentioned something about if you try to plug in a
device (say a zip drive) it can reset something and prevent you from starting
Vista. (I am not computer literate, but can solve most problems with some
basic guidance....any ideas...
thanks much!!
 
Could you be more specific. What do you see when you turn the power button
on? do you see anything at all? Any words on the black screen? How fast they
disappear?
 
I'll have to go from memory. At someone elses computer...When I start
computer, I get a choice to start in safe mode or normal. Have tried both.
If I start in normal, I get to the point where the color bar across the
bottom scrolls across and then the computer shuts off. If I start in safe
mode, I go to the Startup repair mode and that takes about 15 minutes to go
thru. When complete, it gives me an error message (guess that would be
helpful). Anyway, when I restart (as directed), the entire process starts
over again..

By the way, thanks for your help..
 
You still stubbornly refuse to reveal if this is a desktop or laptop.

OK, it is a bit better, at least you've made some progress.

Safe mode ****IS SLOW****. Just accept this fact. You repair computers in
safe mode not work on them.

When you get into the safe mode, open up the event viewer and post here a
few top messages which are marked as "Error."

Also you should delouse your machine. I am giving you a set of instructions
I wrote for myself. Do is in safe mode. It will take time. Don't set time
limits. it is limitless.

My policy is not to use any 3-rd party anti-malware except Spybot S&D.
Windows Vista offers sufficient protection against malicious software
writers some of them I am sure watch this forum very carefully.

Download Microsoft Windows Baseline Security Analyzer. It is Beta 2.1 for
Vista and I think it is safe to download. Run it.

<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...AF-9DBE-4DCE-889E-ECF997EB18E9&displaylang=en>

It will give you all your vulnerabilities, especially in your firewall
settings. You should read the report and if it suggests any changes, you
should consider them.
Your Windows firewall setting will be analyzed.

Download Microsoft® Windows® Malicious Software Removal Tool (KB890830). It
will want to run upon install. Choose the FULL scan although it may give you
a threatening message that it might take a few hours. It will scan your
entire computer in about half an hour or less if you do not have a lot of
stuff in it.

<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...e0-e72d-4f54-9ab3-75b8eb148356&displaylang=en>

Some reassuring information: Malicious Software Removal Tool
<http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx>
The Microsoft Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool helps remove specific,
prevalent malicious software from computers that are running Windows Vista,
Windows Server 2003, Windows XP, or Windows 2000
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=890830

You can also go to Protection Center (Microsoft)
<http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/center/howsafe.htm?s_cid=mscom_msrt>
and click "Protection Scan." There will be a dropdown menu and a button:
"Launch Full Scan or Vista." You can do it if you wish.

Download and install Spybot Search & Destroy, a great piece of software
which is free for individuals but corporations pay fees. You may be asked
for donations but it is up to you. It is very up to date and every week you
will have to download new updates, sometimes even more often. You should
check for updates every time you run it. It will give you all su*kers
leached into your registry and ask you if you wanted to remove them. Many of
them have masqueraded themselves under MS Windows names like
Windows.something. Do not hesitate to kill them all. You can trust SB S&D.

http://www.spybot.info/en/index.html

It also allows you to IMMUNIZE your system. It means that when you go to a
website and they try to download some kind of a Trojan to you SB S&D will
either kill it silently, or ask you if you want to do it or will kill it and
give you a notice. It is better to let it kill them all in silence.

Listen to Mark Russinovich's (MS) webcast: Advanced Malware Cleaning

<http://www.microsoft.com/emea/spotlight/sessionh.aspx?videoid=359>

Downloading any 3-rd party "free" anti-spyware program (with teh exception
SB S&D) is an invitation for a disaster.

The AV (antivirus industry) is on the way to the cemetery:
The slow death of AV technology:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/08/death_of_av/
Vista did it in.
Last note: it has been suggested around here by some unscrupulous trolls
that the Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool (MSRT) and SB S&D do not
clean the registry. MSRT and SB S&D work on different principles. MSRT in
full mode reads RAM memory and detects patterns in the files that match
known viruses and other malware configuraions. This is why it takes so long
to run. If malicious code is detected it is also quite likely that it has a
representation in the registry.

The only way to remove a particular piece of malware is to CLEAN the
registry off of this key.
SB S&D works by going thru the registry and locating known names that match
its database of malicious software.

After all culprits are found the user is asked if he/she want to remove the
malicious software. If you say OK, then the registry IS CLEANED of this set
of malicious execs. The execs themselves are killed in the respective
folders.

In this sense both tools do CLEAN the registry. They do not do any
"housekeeping" which is absolutely superfluous and unnecessary. It is NOT
recommended by MS and most of the experienced users as well.
 
sorry, desktop...will try tomorrow to get any error messages to
post..computer at another household. Thanks for the feedback...we'll see
where it takes me. Safe mode doesn't actually get Vista to open. Just goes
to Startup repair and that keeps failing. After that runs, I get a message
that says it couldn't be repaired. I just keep chasing my tail. I'll try to
get an error message to post. We can't go much further until I provide more
details! Thanks..
 
To get into SAFE MODE under ANY circumstances:

This is the option of the last resort as it comes to salvaging your data and
OS.

Turn the machine off, turn it back on and IMMEDIATELY press two keys: CTRL +
F6. If you hear a distress series of beeps (around 5/sec) keep pressing for
about 1 min. After that release F6 but keep pressing Ctrl for a while.

At this point the MS Windows Boot Console should appear and offer you
choices. Choose Boot in Safe Mode With Internet.

Now, that combination Ctrl+F6 is maker specific. It worked for my DELL
towers. Other manufacturers reportedly have other "secret" codes.

You may try Alt, Del, PgUp, PgDn instead of Ctrl. Also F6 is not cast in
concrete. You may try other function keys. Some machine may require only one
key to be pressed. Every machine MUST have a code like this. It took me
about 10 min to find mine.


monyhony said:
sorry, desktop...will try tomorrow to get any error messages to
post..computer at another household. Thanks for the feedback...we'll see
where it takes me. Safe mode doesn't actually get Vista to open. Just
goes
to Startup repair and that keeps failing. After that runs, I get a
message
that says it couldn't be repaired. I just keep chasing my tail. I'll try
to
get an error message to post. We can't go much further until I provide
more
details! Thanks..
 
Safe mode is NOT the last resort to salvage your Data

And you DON'T even know how to get into it.

You are a nutter!!

False, misleading and damaging information is being supplied by you in this
Newsgroup.
Let's take the matter further now!
 
Unfortunately it appears we need a moderator just to follow this guy and
immediately follow up on every post he makes with a WARNING.
 
Let's take the matter further now!

Let's take if further now, you, affirmative action genius. Let's take it!

I have asked you many times to provide a counter point to my allegedly
"MISLEADING" recommendations. You, idiot with IQ of 85 could never come up
with anything specific. All you do is to go around and sh*it.

You also threatened to finish with me. You said: "You are finished." I am
wondering what kind of steps you have taken to accomplish it? Have you hired
a contract killer or you are planning to do it yourself? I am wondering how
you would go about finding an accomplice. Are you planning to put an ad in
The New York Times: "Looking for a resolute person to finish off my nemesis
AlexB. Payment commensurate with experience." Something like this?

Or you can do it easier on the web now. Perhaps there are newsgroups that
crooks like you congregate. Or another option: you can pass a word around
among your former fellow inmates, I mean those who are not in the slammer on
a long-term contractual arrangement with a Federal Penitentiary.

You are an idiot, you are the inner part of every pair of pants in your fat
neighborhood, mo*ther*fu*cker of every spunky de monkey in Africa, India and
the United States, as*shole of universal proportion, behemoth of crazy
ambitions, sexual pervert, unregistered child molester, your mother's worst
nightmare during her pregnancy, a victim of unsuccessful illegal abortion,
an alien, perhaps a double alien, spoofy creator of most of the span in this
newsgroup, a piece of crap on a broken paper plate, a hamburger used twice,
a double cross imposter of himself, total nuisance of suffering mankind, a
major obstacle for the development of new version of Windows, killer of baby
frogs across Central America, major source of methane for greenhouse gases.

SCUM, SCUM, SCUM <=== Mick Murphy aka MICHAEL

This is what I think about you, and I am sure most of the other folks
around here.
 
You, idiot, do not have your messages in your browser set up to be
downloaded properly. You slept thru at least three posts when I asked him
specifically what it was.


You are an IDIOT.

Tune up your browser. Download next 500 messages.

All people with IQ over 86 know that.

Mick Murphy said:
You never asked him what it was: desktop or laptop, you lying idiot!!!
 
AlexB said:
Let's take if further now, you, affirmative action genius. Let's
take it!
I have asked you many times to provide a counter point to my allegedly
"MISLEADING" recommendations. You, idiot with IQ of 85 could never
come up with anything specific. All you do is to go around and sh*it.

You also threatened to finish with me. You said: "You are finished."
I am wondering what kind of steps you have taken to accomplish it?
Have you hired a contract killer or you are planning to do it
yourself? I am wondering how you would go about finding an
accomplice. Are you planning to put an ad in The New York Times:
"Looking for a resolute person to finish off my nemesis AlexB.
Payment commensurate with experience." Something like this?
Or you can do it easier on the web now. Perhaps there are newsgroups
that crooks like you congregate. Or another option: you can pass a
word around among your former fellow inmates, I mean those who are
not in the slammer on a long-term contractual arrangement with a
Federal Penitentiary.
You are an idiot, you are the inner part of every pair of pants in
your fat neighborhood, mo*ther*fu*cker of every spunky de monkey in
Africa, India and the United States, as*shole of universal
proportion, behemoth of crazy ambitions, sexual pervert, unregistered
child molester, your mother's worst nightmare during her pregnancy, a
victim of unsuccessful illegal abortion, an alien, perhaps a double
alien, spoofy creator of most of the span in this newsgroup, a piece
of crap on a broken paper plate, a hamburger used twice, a double
cross imposter of himself, total nuisance of suffering mankind, a
major obstacle for the development of new version of Windows, killer
of baby frogs across Central America, major source of methane for
greenhouse gases.
SCUM, SCUM, SCUM <=== Mick Murphy aka MICHAEL

This is what I think about you, and I am sure most of the other folks
around here.


Very few people care what you think about anything and I don't think you can
speak for anyone else in this newsgroup. In fact, the filth you just spewed
along with previous garbage from you gives 'folks around here' a pretty good
idea of what kind of person you are.
 
AlexB said:
SCUM, SCUM, SCUM <=== Mick Murphy aka MICHAEL

Hey, douche. I see you can't get me off your mind...
I'm touched.

I've been ignoring most your posts over the last few days.
I figured so long as you didn't post anything too outrageously
stupid, I would cut you some slack. Especially, since you finally
admitted to your embarrassing folly about owning Microsoft
Office "2005".

I should have known for thickos like you, it's just a matter
of time before your stupidity comes head-on reminding
us that you are not far removed from the Cretaceous Period.
I'm amazed at how many of you critters seem to have made that
time jump from so long ago.
This is what I think about you, and I am sure most of the other folks
around here.

No, Alex. People laugh at *you*. You are the joke.
Most of those that aren't laughing at you, more than
likely blocked your delusional drivel a long time ago.



-Michael
 
AlexB said:
Let's take if further now, you, affirmative action genius. Let's take it!

I have asked you many times to provide a counter point to my allegedly
"MISLEADING" recommendations. You, idiot with IQ of 85 could never come up
with anything specific. All you do is to go around and sh*it.

You also threatened to finish with me. You said: "You are finished." I am
wondering what kind of steps you have taken to accomplish it? Have you
hired
a contract killer or you are planning to do it yourself? I am wondering
how you would go about finding an accomplice. Are you planning to put an
ad in The New York Times: "Looking for a resolute person to finish off my
nemesis AlexB. Payment commensurate with experience." Something like this?

Or you can do it easier on the web now. Perhaps there are newsgroups that
crooks like you congregate. Or another option: you can pass a word around
among your former fellow inmates, I mean those who are not in the slammer
on a long-term contractual arrangement with a Federal Penitentiary.

You are an idiot, you are the inner part of every pair of pants in your
fat neighborhood, mo*ther*fu*cker of every spunky de monkey in Africa,
India and the United States, as*shole of universal proportion, behemoth of
crazy ambitions, sexual pervert, unregistered child molester, your
mother's worst nightmare during her pregnancy, a victim of unsuccessful
illegal abortion, an alien, perhaps a double alien, spoofy creator of most
of the span in this newsgroup, a piece of crap on a broken paper plate, a
hamburger used twice, a double cross imposter of himself, total nuisance
of suffering mankind, a major obstacle for the development of new version
of Windows, killer of baby frogs across Central America, major source of
methane for greenhouse gases.

SCUM, SCUM, SCUM <=== Mick Murphy aka MICHAEL

This is what I think about you, and I am sure most of the other folks
around here.

Come on AlexB, how about putting a little MORE effort into it? Surely, if
you thought long and hard, like over the next 6 months or so, you could
think of one more insult to hurl at MICHAEL. Now, concentrate! Get those
commies-under-your-bed thoughts out of your mind and really think.

Cheers.


--
Frank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line):
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/Astronomy2/PreformanceMonitor.jpg

How a Windows Firewall protects your computer:
http://tinyurl.com/2z9qdn

AlexB (another Vista expert): "I ruined at least 5 or 6 installations of
Vista before I realized what was going on."

Contact AlexB to find out how to "delouse" your Vista system.
 
NoStop said:
Come on AlexB, how about putting a little MORE effort into it? Surely, if
you thought long and hard, like over the next 6 months or so, you could
think of one more insult to hurl at MICHAEL. Now, concentrate! Get those
commies-under-your-bed thoughts out of your mind and really think.

Actually, the lilliputian nutter was at first replying to Mick Murphy,
then the ignoramus brought my name into it. There's something
awfully wrong with that addle-head..... some serious issues.


-Michael
 
Unbelievable you let this thread continue with this kind of language. If you
condone this then perhaps Mr. Gates would be interested in seeing what has
happened to these support severs in the past few months.

--
All the best,
SG


SNIPPED
 
MICHAEL said:
Actually, the lilliputian nutter was at first replying to Mick Murphy,
then the ignoramus brought my name into it. There's something
awfully wrong with that addle-head..... some serious issues.


-Michael

He's a Republican. Need we say more?

Cheers.

--
Frank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line):
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/Astronomy2/PreformanceMonitor.jpg

How a Windows Firewall protects your computer:
http://tinyurl.com/2z9qdn

AlexB (another Vista expert): "I ruined at least 5 or 6 installations of
Vista before I realized what was going on."

Contact AlexB to find out how to "delouse" your Vista system.
 
Gates would be interested in seeing what has
happened to these support severs in the past few months.

He'd probably cut them off. At least he'd slash funding.
 
AlexB said:
Let's take if further now, you, affirmative action genius. Let's take it!

I have asked you many times to provide a counter point to my allegedly
"MISLEADING" recommendations. You, idiot with IQ of 85 could never come up



For starters CTL+F6 is a windows key combo it is not computer manufacturer
related. In other words it's not a "secret key" combo it is the same on any
PC with XP or Vista or any other number of MS OS'

Do you want more ? I'm warning you it will just make your advice look even
lamer.
 
I bought a new emachines E4252 PC and it said it comes with windows vista
home premium when actually they gave me a beta version of the software that
has alot of bugs in it like the display driver and windows live messenger
crashes etc. even when i tried reinstalling on the recovery disk its still
beta edition. are they aloud to give me a beta edition because its not fair
having to pay tht much for a pc then having a version of windows, microsoft
doesnt support anymore
 
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