Startup delay

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Both myself and my father are having a strange problem with windows
2000 starting up.
when the OS gets to the second loading screen, (i.e the one with the
win2000 logo) the progress bar gets halfway across in a couple of
seconds and then the computer seems to freeze for about 2 minutes.
there is no disk activity at all during this time. The internal zip
drives will then click as though they are accessing the disk in them
and it will carry on as before and load windows in a matter of
seconds.

The two machines are about as seperate in terms of configuration as
they come, mine is athlon based his is pentium based, the only
similarity is the graphics card which is a matrox dual head 550 and
both have internal zip drives.

this started occuring after installing service packs, (as to which one
does it i do not know, this happened long before sp4 was around).

Does anyone have any idea as to what this delay could be? i have been
through my startup config and disabled unneccesary services etc, made
no difference.

as the zip drive and graphics card are the only common link i have to
assume that these are the most likely cause of the problem. however i
am sure i had this problem when there was an older voodo 3 in my
machine beforehand.

any ideas? your help is much appreciated.



p.s. another slight annoyance on my dads machine is that if you have a
particular zip disk in the drive on startup, then if you try to change
disks it refuses to see the next one, simply stating there is no disk
in the drive. you have to log off and back on again to read a new zip
disk. on mine however there is no problem. is there just some silly
setting that is wrong on his.
 
Both myself and my father are having a strange problem with windows
2000 starting up.
when the OS gets to the second loading screen, (i.e the one with the
win2000 logo) the progress bar gets halfway across in a couple of
seconds and then the computer seems to freeze for about 2 minutes.
there is no disk activity at all during this time. The internal zip
drives will then click as though they are accessing the disk in them
and it will carry on as before and load windows in a matter of
seconds.

The two machines are about as seperate in terms of configuration as
they come, mine is athlon based his is pentium based, the only
similarity is the graphics card which is a matrox dual head 550 and
both have internal zip drives.

this started occuring after installing service packs, (as to which one
does it i do not know, this happened long before sp4 was around).

Does anyone have any idea as to what this delay could be? i have been
through my startup config and disabled unneccesary services etc, made
no difference.

as the zip drive and graphics card are the only common link i have to
assume that these are the most likely cause of the problem. however i
am sure i had this problem when there was an older voodo 3 in my
machine beforehand.

any ideas? your help is much appreciated.



p.s. another slight annoyance on my dads machine is that if you have a
particular zip disk in the drive on startup, then if you try to change
disks it refuses to see the next one, simply stating there is no disk
in the drive. you have to log off and back on again to read a new zip
disk. on mine however there is no problem. is there just some silly
setting that is wrong on his.


A knowledge base search for "Zip Disk" yields:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;228144 "Iomega ATAPI Zip
Drive Is Not Recognized in Removable Storage Manager"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;232450 "Windows 2000
Does Not Detect Iomega Parallel Port Zip Drive"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;254664 "HOW TO: Enable
Plug and Play Detection for Parallel Port Devices in Windows 2000"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;255527 "Windows 2000 Is
Unable to Read Factory-Formatted Zip Cartridges in Floppy Mode"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;256592 "Error Messages
When You Try to Eject, Format, or Label a Removable Disk"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;275314 "NTFS-Formatted
Zip Disk Will Not Eject"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;279757 "ThinkPad
Computer May Hang During the Startup Process with a ZIP Drive in the Docking
Station"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;281428 "'Stop 0xB8
ATTEMPTED_SWITCH_FROM_DPC' Error Message When You Use a Parallel Port Zip Drive"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;283891 "Setup Stops
During SCSI RAID Driver Installation on Computers with Three or More Partitions"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;298583 "Slow Boot or
Error Messages in Windows 2000 After Installing Roxio Easy CD Creator 5.0"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;311982 "Disk I/O Error
Occurs When You Start Setup from the Installation CD-ROM or a Floppy Disk"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321064 "Computer Hangs
for 15 Seconds When You Use Your Zip Drive"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;326480 "How to Use
Active Directory Migration Tool Version 2 to Migrate from Windows 2000 to
Windows Server 2003"


Jerold Schulman
Windows: General MVP
JSI, Inc.
http://www.jsiinc.com
 
A knowledge base search for "Zip Disk" yields:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;228144 "Iomega ATAPI Zip
Drive Is Not Recognized in Removable Storage Manager"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;232450 "Windows 2000
Does Not Detect Iomega Parallel Port Zip Drive"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;254664 "HOW TO: Enable
Plug and Play Detection for Parallel Port Devices in Windows 2000"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;255527 "Windows 2000 Is
Unable to Read Factory-Formatted Zip Cartridges in Floppy Mode"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;256592 "Error Messages
When You Try to Eject, Format, or Label a Removable Disk"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;275314 "NTFS-Formatted
Zip Disk Will Not Eject"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;279757 "ThinkPad
Computer May Hang During the Startup Process with a ZIP Drive in the Docking
Station"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;281428 "'Stop 0xB8
ATTEMPTED_SWITCH_FROM_DPC' Error Message When You Use a Parallel Port Zip Drive"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;283891 "Setup Stops
During SCSI RAID Driver Installation on Computers with Three or More Partitions"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;298583 "Slow Boot or
Error Messages in Windows 2000 After Installing Roxio Easy CD Creator 5.0"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;311982 "Disk I/O Error
Occurs When You Start Setup from the Installation CD-ROM or a Floppy Disk"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321064 "Computer Hangs
for 15 Seconds When You Use Your Zip Drive"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;326480 "How to Use
Active Directory Migration Tool Version 2 to Migrate from Windows 2000 to
Windows Server 2003"


Jerold Schulman
Windows: General MVP
JSI, Inc.
http://www.jsiinc.com


Sorry should have said that i had done a search, the one about roxio
could be the problem on my fathers machine however i have never
installed it on my machine so it cannot be that.

sadly the others are not really helping in this case, but thakyou for
your help anyway
 
Excessively long delays at this point are usually the result of certain
hardware.. Some network cards and SCSI adapters (e.g. the one
that comes bundled with Umax scanners) will cause an extra 45-60
second delay.

If you have a network card or non-booting SCSI card installed, try
pulling it and see if it helps. Disabling the DHCP Server and Client
services might also help, if you don't need these two services.

Rick
 
Isn't there some setting also that has to do with how many times Win 2000
will scan for a particular device or setting on startup? I read somewhere
that SP3 or SP4 changes this so that it scans 60 times, but that it can be
set back to about 10-15 for faster startup performance. But I cannot recall
or find where I read it.

Tony
 
adcb said:
Both myself and my father are having a strange problem with windows
2000 starting up.
when the OS gets to the second loading screen, (i.e the one with the
win2000 logo) the progress bar gets halfway across in a couple of
seconds and then the computer seems to freeze for about 2 minutes.
there is no disk activity at all during this time. The internal zip
drives will then click as though they are accessing the disk in them
and it will carry on as before and load windows in a matter of
seconds.

You should not have a Zip disk in the drive when starting up. If you
normally do, you're putting your data and media at risk. If you use
Iomega software (I do not), it should automatically eject the disk when
you shut down. Try removing the disk and rebooting and see if that makes
a difference in startup time.
 
You should not have a Zip disk in the drive when starting up. If you
normally do, you're putting your data and media at risk. If you use
Iomega software (I do not), it should automatically eject the disk when
you shut down. Try removing the disk and rebooting and see if that makes
a difference in startup time.

Really, never heard that before. learn something new every day.
unfortunatly we have tried whether there is a disk or not and there is
no difference :-(
 
Excessively long delays at this point are usually the result of certain
hardware.. Some network cards and SCSI adapters (e.g. the one
that comes bundled with Umax scanners) will cause an extra 45-60
second delay.

If you have a network card or non-booting SCSI card installed, try
pulling it and see if it helps. Disabling the DHCP Server and Client
services might also help, if you don't need these two services.

Rick

Will give that a go tonight, i have one scsi card, (a fairly good
adaptec one), worth a try as i am completely out of idesa.

thanx
 
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