Starting from Scratch...

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Paul

Ok. This is what I want to do. I am having a ton of
trouble getting XPE to work properly, so I am going to
start one from scratch and tell you all what I am trying
to do, and maybe get some hints and tips from you all.

What I want: I want to create a bootable cd that I can
throw into ANY machine(these machines are identical), and
have it boot into Windows XP. I don't think I need a RAM
overlay since I could care less about changes being saved.
I just need a bootable windowsxp machine that can touch
the network.

What I have done: I have run tap.exe and inported all the
deivices, and added the custom scsi adaptor driver.

Can someone give me kind of a run through on what I need
to do to make this work? I have been trying to get this to
for for 2 weeks now without any success...I am getting
VERY frustrated....

Thanks in advance!

Paul
 
You need to do either RAM Boot from CD, or EL-Torito CD boot.

If you use El-Torito.
You might not care about OS writes to CD, but drivers will certainly fail
such requests if you don't use RAM overlay.

Use google to search this NG for how to do this, it was discussed many times
during last month.


Regards,
Slobodan
 
Ok, I just created an image, and moved it over to my E:
drive. FBA looks like in completed wonderfully. So I
booted into the XPE image, everything looks good, but when
I do a 'ewfmgr' it says it can't find an ewf partition, or
something to that effect. Even though it said that I did a
etprep -all. Should I do an hd2iso, or is there something
wrong with ewf? Here is the output from fbalog.txt:

11:01:41 AM - ConfigureEwf() Start.

11:01:42 AM - Getting EWF config parameters from
registry.

11:01:42 AM - EWF Partition Size = 250000 (KBytes),
Levels = 1, Volumes = 1.

11:01:42 AM - Protected Volume Config #0 :

11:01:42 AM - Disk= 1,Part= 2,DiskType= IDE,Type= RAM.

11:01:42 AM - Enable= Disabled, Optimize= 0,
LazyWrite= N.

11:01:42 AM - Found 1 Hard Disks.

11:01:42 AM - Searching for El Torito disk.

11:01:42 AM - Disk0 signature = 0xCCCDCCCD.

11:01:42 AM - Checking Start value in
System\CurrentControlSet\Services\redbook key.

11:01:42 AM - Resetting Start value.

11:01:42 AM - Checking Start value in
System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Imapi key.

11:01:42 AM - Resetting Start value.

11:01:42 AM - Disk #0 layout info:

11:01:42 AM - PRIMARY
partition,start=0x0000000000007e00,
len=0x000000085d79a200, type= 7

11:01:42 AM - PRIMARY
partition,start=0x000000085d7a2000,
len=0x00000000289b0000, type= 7

11:01:42 AM - FREE partition,start=0x0000000886152000,
len=0x0000000010266000, type= 0

11:01:43 AM - Allocating EWF in PRIMARY partition,
start=0x0000000886152000, len=0x000000000000fc00.

11:01:43 AM - Created EWF partition on Disk = 0,
partition = 3,size = 0x000000000000fc00 .

11:01:43 AM - ewfOpen.

11:01:43 AM - ewfOpen returned invalid file handle.

11:01:43 AM - Deleting EWF Partition #3, disk#=0, type=69

11:01:44 AM - ConfigureEwf() End, status = 0x57.

11:01:44 AM - [CallEntryPointThread] C:\WINDOWS\system32
\ewfdll.dll, ConfigureEwf (Error: 0x57)
 
For CD or RAM disk boot your boot volume must be C:.
One way to do this you can find here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/embedded/community/tips/xp/runtimepartition
..asp

Second you need to configure RAM EWF to protect OS partition this requires
you to enter valid partition path.
You can read more info from doc contained in ramewf.zip on www.xpefiles.com


Regards,
Slobodan

Paul said:
Ok, I just created an image, and moved it over to my E:
drive. FBA looks like in completed wonderfully. So I
booted into the XPE image, everything looks good, but when
I do a 'ewfmgr' it says it can't find an ewf partition, or
something to that effect. Even though it said that I did a
etprep -all. Should I do an hd2iso, or is there something
wrong with ewf? Here is the output from fbalog.txt:

11:01:41 AM - ConfigureEwf() Start.

11:01:42 AM - Getting EWF config parameters from
registry.

11:01:42 AM - EWF Partition Size = 250000 (KBytes),
Levels = 1, Volumes = 1.

11:01:42 AM - Protected Volume Config #0 :

11:01:42 AM - Disk= 1,Part= 2,DiskType= IDE,Type= RAM.

11:01:42 AM - Enable= Disabled, Optimize= 0,
LazyWrite= N.

11:01:42 AM - Found 1 Hard Disks.

11:01:42 AM - Searching for El Torito disk.

11:01:42 AM - Disk0 signature = 0xCCCDCCCD.

11:01:42 AM - Checking Start value in
System\CurrentControlSet\Services\redbook key.

11:01:42 AM - Resetting Start value.

11:01:42 AM - Checking Start value in
System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Imapi key.

11:01:42 AM - Resetting Start value.

11:01:42 AM - Disk #0 layout info:

11:01:42 AM - PRIMARY
partition,start=0x0000000000007e00,
len=0x000000085d79a200, type= 7

11:01:42 AM - PRIMARY
partition,start=0x000000085d7a2000,
len=0x00000000289b0000, type= 7

11:01:42 AM - FREE partition,start=0x0000000886152000,
len=0x0000000010266000, type= 0

11:01:43 AM - Allocating EWF in PRIMARY partition,
start=0x0000000886152000, len=0x000000000000fc00.

11:01:43 AM - Created EWF partition on Disk = 0,
partition = 3,size = 0x000000000000fc00 .

11:01:43 AM - ewfOpen.

11:01:43 AM - ewfOpen returned invalid file handle.

11:01:43 AM - Deleting EWF Partition #3, disk#=0, type=69

11:01:44 AM - ConfigureEwf() End, status = 0x57.

11:01:44 AM - [CallEntryPointThread] C:\WINDOWS\system32
\ewfdll.dll, ConfigureEwf (Error: 0x57)

-----Original Message-----
You need to do either RAM Boot from CD, or EL-Torito CD boot.

If you use El-Torito.
You might not care about OS writes to CD, but drivers will certainly fail
such requests if you don't use RAM overlay.

Use google to search this NG for how to do this, it was discussed many times
during last month.


Regards,
Slobodan




.
 
Ok, I think I just did this successfully. I got the
following output from doing ewfmgr c:

Protected Volume Configuration
Type RAM
State DISABLED
Volume ID CD CC CD CC 00 20 7A 5D 08 00 00 00 00
00 00 00
Device Name "\Device\HarddiskVolume2" [C:]
Max Levels 1
Clump Size 512
Current Level 1

Memory used for data 0 bytes
Memory used for mapping 0 bytes

So I did a ewfmgr -enable c:


So what should I do know? Make the iso? Thanks for all
your help!

Paul
-----Original Message-----
For CD or RAM disk boot your boot volume must be C:.
One way to do this you can find here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/embedded/community/tips/x p/runtimepartition
..asp

Second you need to configure RAM EWF to protect OS partition this requires
you to enter valid partition path.
You can read more info from doc contained in ramewf.zip on www.xpefiles.com


Regards,
Slobodan

Ok, I just created an image, and moved it over to my E:
drive. FBA looks like in completed wonderfully. So I
booted into the XPE image, everything looks good, but when
I do a 'ewfmgr' it says it can't find an ewf partition, or
something to that effect. Even though it said that I did a
etprep -all. Should I do an hd2iso, or is there something
wrong with ewf? Here is the output from fbalog.txt:

11:01:41 AM - ConfigureEwf() Start.

11:01:42 AM - Getting EWF config parameters from
registry.

11:01:42 AM - EWF Partition Size = 250000 (KBytes),
Levels = 1, Volumes = 1.

11:01:42 AM - Protected Volume Config #0 :

11:01:42 AM - Disk= 1,Part= 2,DiskType= IDE,Type= RAM.

11:01:42 AM - Enable= Disabled, Optimize= 0,
LazyWrite= N.

11:01:42 AM - Found 1 Hard Disks.

11:01:42 AM - Searching for El Torito disk.

11:01:42 AM - Disk0 signature = 0xCCCDCCCD.

11:01:42 AM - Checking Start value in
System\CurrentControlSet\Services\redbook key.

11:01:42 AM - Resetting Start value.

11:01:42 AM - Checking Start value in
System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Imapi key.

11:01:42 AM - Resetting Start value.

11:01:42 AM - Disk #0 layout info:

11:01:42 AM - PRIMARY
partition,start=0x0000000000007e00,
len=0x000000085d79a200, type= 7

11:01:42 AM - PRIMARY
partition,start=0x000000085d7a2000,
len=0x00000000289b0000, type= 7

11:01:42 AM - FREE partition,start=0x0000000886152000,
len=0x0000000010266000, type= 0

11:01:43 AM - Allocating EWF in PRIMARY partition,
start=0x0000000886152000, len=0x000000000000fc00.

11:01:43 AM - Created EWF partition on Disk = 0,
partition = 3,size = 0x000000000000fc00 .

11:01:43 AM - ewfOpen.

11:01:43 AM - ewfOpen returned invalid file handle.

11:01:43 AM - Deleting EWF Partition #3, disk#=0, type=69

11:01:44 AM - ConfigureEwf() End, status = 0x57.

11:01:44 AM - [CallEntryPointThread] C:\WINDOWS\system32
\ewfdll.dll, ConfigureEwf (Error: 0x57)

-----Original Message-----
You need to do either RAM Boot from CD, or EL-Torito CD boot.

If you use El-Torito.
You might not care about OS writes to CD, but drivers will certainly fail
such requests if you don't use RAM overlay.

Use google to search this NG for how to do this, it was discussed many times
during last month.


Regards,
Slobodan

Ok. This is what I want to do. I am having a ton of
trouble getting XPE to work properly, so I am going to
start one from scratch and tell you all what I am trying
to do, and maybe get some hints and tips from you all.

What I want: I want to create a bootable cd that I can
throw into ANY machine(these machines are identical), and
have it boot into Windows XP. I don't think I need a RAM
overlay since I could care less about changes being saved.
I just need a bootable windowsxp machine that can touch
the network.

What I have done: I have run tap.exe and inported all the
deivices, and added the custom scsi adaptor driver.

Can someone give me kind of a run through on what I need
to do to make this work? I have been trying to get
this
to
for for 2 weeks now without any success...I am getting
VERY frustrated....

Thanks in advance!

Paul


.


.
 
Since you have chosen to use EWF then this means that you are trying to
create El-Torito CD.
Search in product documentation for El-Torito, there you will find steps you
need to perform so you can make bootable CD.
Also search this news group for El-Torito by using
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&group=microsoft.
public.windowsxp.embedded


Regards,
Slobodan


Ok, I think I just did this successfully. I got the
following output from doing ewfmgr c:

Protected Volume Configuration
Type RAM
State DISABLED
Volume ID CD CC CD CC 00 20 7A 5D 08 00 00 00 00
00 00 00
Device Name "\Device\HarddiskVolume2" [C:]
Max Levels 1
Clump Size 512
Current Level 1

Memory used for data 0 bytes
Memory used for mapping 0 bytes

So I did a ewfmgr -enable c:


So what should I do know? Make the iso? Thanks for all
your help!

Paul
-----Original Message-----
For CD or RAM disk boot your boot volume must be C:.
One way to do this you can find here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/embedded/community/tips/x p/runtimepartition
..asp

Second you need to configure RAM EWF to protect OS partition this requires
you to enter valid partition path.
You can read more info from doc contained in ramewf.zip on www.xpefiles.com


Regards,
Slobodan

Ok, I just created an image, and moved it over to my E:
drive. FBA looks like in completed wonderfully. So I
booted into the XPE image, everything looks good, but when
I do a 'ewfmgr' it says it can't find an ewf partition, or
something to that effect. Even though it said that I did a
etprep -all. Should I do an hd2iso, or is there something
wrong with ewf? Here is the output from fbalog.txt:

11:01:41 AM - ConfigureEwf() Start.

11:01:42 AM - Getting EWF config parameters from
registry.

11:01:42 AM - EWF Partition Size = 250000 (KBytes),
Levels = 1, Volumes = 1.

11:01:42 AM - Protected Volume Config #0 :

11:01:42 AM - Disk= 1,Part= 2,DiskType= IDE,Type= RAM.

11:01:42 AM - Enable= Disabled, Optimize= 0,
LazyWrite= N.

11:01:42 AM - Found 1 Hard Disks.

11:01:42 AM - Searching for El Torito disk.

11:01:42 AM - Disk0 signature = 0xCCCDCCCD.

11:01:42 AM - Checking Start value in
System\CurrentControlSet\Services\redbook key.

11:01:42 AM - Resetting Start value.

11:01:42 AM - Checking Start value in
System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Imapi key.

11:01:42 AM - Resetting Start value.

11:01:42 AM - Disk #0 layout info:

11:01:42 AM - PRIMARY
partition,start=0x0000000000007e00,
len=0x000000085d79a200, type= 7

11:01:42 AM - PRIMARY
partition,start=0x000000085d7a2000,
len=0x00000000289b0000, type= 7

11:01:42 AM - FREE partition,start=0x0000000886152000,
len=0x0000000010266000, type= 0

11:01:43 AM - Allocating EWF in PRIMARY partition,
start=0x0000000886152000, len=0x000000000000fc00.

11:01:43 AM - Created EWF partition on Disk = 0,
partition = 3,size = 0x000000000000fc00 .

11:01:43 AM - ewfOpen.

11:01:43 AM - ewfOpen returned invalid file handle.

11:01:43 AM - Deleting EWF Partition #3, disk#=0, type=69

11:01:44 AM - ConfigureEwf() End, status = 0x57.

11:01:44 AM - [CallEntryPointThread] C:\WINDOWS\system32
\ewfdll.dll, ConfigureEwf (Error: 0x57)


-----Original Message-----
You need to do either RAM Boot from CD, or EL-Torito CD
boot.

If you use El-Torito.
You might not care about OS writes to CD, but drivers
will certainly fail
such requests if you don't use RAM overlay.

Use google to search this NG for how to do this, it was
discussed many times
during last month.


Regards,
Slobodan

message
Ok. This is what I want to do. I am having a ton of
trouble getting XPE to work properly, so I am going to
start one from scratch and tell you all what I am trying
to do, and maybe get some hints and tips from you all.

What I want: I want to create a bootable cd that I can
throw into ANY machine(these machines are identical),
and
have it boot into Windows XP. I don't think I need a RAM
overlay since I could care less about changes being
saved.
I just need a bootable windowsxp machine that can touch
the network.

What I have done: I have run tap.exe and inported all
the
deivices, and added the custom scsi adaptor driver.

Can someone give me kind of a run through on what I need
to do to make this work? I have been trying to get this
to
for for 2 weeks now without any success...I am getting
VERY frustrated....

Thanks in advance!

Paul


.


.
 
I don't understand why MS has make it so incredibly
tedious and difficult to make a bootable cd out of an
already working booting hard drive. Incredible. I was able
to do this with linux in about 1/2 a day. 2 weeks into
this and still no beans.
-----Original Message-----
Since you have chosen to use EWF then this means that you are trying to
create El-Torito CD.
Search in product documentation for El-Torito, there you will find steps you
need to perform so you can make bootable CD.
Also search this news group for El-Torito by using
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF- 8&group=microsoft.
public.windowsxp.embedded


Regards,
Slobodan


Ok, I think I just did this successfully. I got the
following output from doing ewfmgr c:

Protected Volume Configuration
Type RAM
State DISABLED
Volume ID CD CC CD CC 00 20 7A 5D 08 00 00 00 00
00 00 00
Device Name "\Device\HarddiskVolume2" [C:]
Max Levels 1
Clump Size 512
Current Level 1

Memory used for data 0 bytes
Memory used for mapping 0 bytes

So I did a ewfmgr -enable c:


So what should I do know? Make the iso? Thanks for all
your help!

Paul
-----Original Message-----
For CD or RAM disk boot your boot volume must be C:.
One way to do this you can find here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/embedded/community/tips/x
p/runtimepartition
..asp

Second you need to configure RAM EWF to protect OS partition this requires
you to enter valid partition path.
You can read more info from doc contained in ramewf.zip on www.xpefiles.com


Regards,
Slobodan

Ok, I just created an image, and moved it over to my E:
drive. FBA looks like in completed wonderfully. So I
booted into the XPE image, everything looks good, but when
I do a 'ewfmgr' it says it can't find an ewf
partition,
or
something to that effect. Even though it said that I did a
etprep -all. Should I do an hd2iso, or is there something
wrong with ewf? Here is the output from fbalog.txt:

11:01:41 AM - ConfigureEwf() Start.

11:01:42 AM - Getting EWF config parameters from
registry.

11:01:42 AM - EWF Partition Size = 250000 (KBytes),
Levels = 1, Volumes = 1.

11:01:42 AM - Protected Volume Config #0 :

11:01:42 AM - Disk= 1,Part= 2,DiskType= IDE,Type= RAM.

11:01:42 AM - Enable= Disabled, Optimize= 0,
LazyWrite= N.

11:01:42 AM - Found 1 Hard Disks.

11:01:42 AM - Searching for El Torito disk.

11:01:42 AM - Disk0 signature = 0xCCCDCCCD.

11:01:42 AM - Checking Start value in
System\CurrentControlSet\Services\redbook key.

11:01:42 AM - Resetting Start value.

11:01:42 AM - Checking Start value in
System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Imapi key.

11:01:42 AM - Resetting Start value.

11:01:42 AM - Disk #0 layout info:

11:01:42 AM - PRIMARY
partition,start=0x0000000000007e00,
len=0x000000085d79a200, type= 7

11:01:42 AM - PRIMARY
partition,start=0x000000085d7a2000,
len=0x00000000289b0000, type= 7

11:01:42 AM - FREE partition,start=0x0000000886152000,
len=0x0000000010266000, type= 0

11:01:43 AM - Allocating EWF in PRIMARY partition,
start=0x0000000886152000, len=0x000000000000fc00.

11:01:43 AM - Created EWF partition on Disk = 0,
partition = 3,size = 0x000000000000fc00 .

11:01:43 AM - ewfOpen.

11:01:43 AM - ewfOpen returned invalid file handle.

11:01:43 AM - Deleting EWF Partition #3, disk#=0, type=69

11:01:44 AM - ConfigureEwf() End, status = 0x57.

11:01:44 AM - [CallEntryPointThread] C:\WINDOWS\system32
\ewfdll.dll, ConfigureEwf (Error: 0x57)


-----Original Message-----
You need to do either RAM Boot from CD, or EL- Torito CD
boot.

If you use El-Torito.
You might not care about OS writes to CD, but drivers
will certainly fail
such requests if you don't use RAM overlay.

Use google to search this NG for how to do this, it was
discussed many times
during last month.


Regards,
Slobodan

message
Ok. This is what I want to do. I am having a ton of
trouble getting XPE to work properly, so I am
going
to
start one from scratch and tell you all what I am trying
to do, and maybe get some hints and tips from you all.

What I want: I want to create a bootable cd that I can
throw into ANY machine(these machines are identical),
and
have it boot into Windows XP. I don't think I
need a
RAM
overlay since I could care less about changes being
saved.
I just need a bootable windowsxp machine that can touch
the network.

What I have done: I have run tap.exe and inported all
the
deivices, and added the custom scsi adaptor driver.

Can someone give me kind of a run through on what
I
need
to do to make this work? I have been trying to get this
to
for for 2 weeks now without any success...I am getting
VERY frustrated....

Thanks in advance!

Paul


.



.


.
 
It's more appropriate to say that MS did not make it easy to do this.
They simply made it work, and they stopped there.
It's up to you to understand all things that need to be done (and why they
need to be done), and to apply them properly.

Sorry,
Slobodan

Paul said:
I don't understand why MS has make it so incredibly
tedious and difficult to make a bootable cd out of an
already working booting hard drive. Incredible. I was able
to do this with linux in about 1/2 a day. 2 weeks into
this and still no beans.
-----Original Message-----
Since you have chosen to use EWF then this means that you are trying to
create El-Torito CD.
Search in product documentation for El-Torito, there you will find steps you
need to perform so you can make bootable CD.
Also search this news group for El-Torito by using
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF- 8&group=microsoft.
public.windowsxp.embedded


Regards,
Slobodan


Ok, I think I just did this successfully. I got the
following output from doing ewfmgr c:

Protected Volume Configuration
Type RAM
State DISABLED
Volume ID CD CC CD CC 00 20 7A 5D 08 00 00 00 00
00 00 00
Device Name "\Device\HarddiskVolume2" [C:]
Max Levels 1
Clump Size 512
Current Level 1

Memory used for data 0 bytes
Memory used for mapping 0 bytes

So I did a ewfmgr -enable c:


So what should I do know? Make the iso? Thanks for all
your help!

Paul
-----Original Message-----
For CD or RAM disk boot your boot volume must be C:.
One way to do this you can find here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/embedded/community/tips/x
p/runtimepartition
..asp

Second you need to configure RAM EWF to protect OS
partition this requires
you to enter valid partition path.
You can read more info from doc contained in ramewf.zip
on www.xpefiles.com


Regards,
Slobodan

message
Ok, I just created an image, and moved it over to my E:
drive. FBA looks like in completed wonderfully. So I
booted into the XPE image, everything looks good, but
when
I do a 'ewfmgr' it says it can't find an ewf partition,
or
something to that effect. Even though it said that I
did a
etprep -all. Should I do an hd2iso, or is there
something
wrong with ewf? Here is the output from fbalog.txt:

11:01:41 AM - ConfigureEwf() Start.

11:01:42 AM - Getting EWF config parameters from
registry.

11:01:42 AM - EWF Partition Size = 250000 (KBytes),
Levels = 1, Volumes = 1.

11:01:42 AM - Protected Volume Config #0 :

11:01:42 AM - Disk= 1,Part= 2,DiskType= IDE,Type=
RAM.

11:01:42 AM - Enable= Disabled, Optimize= 0,
LazyWrite= N.

11:01:42 AM - Found 1 Hard Disks.

11:01:42 AM - Searching for El Torito disk.

11:01:42 AM - Disk0 signature = 0xCCCDCCCD.

11:01:42 AM - Checking Start value in
System\CurrentControlSet\Services\redbook key.

11:01:42 AM - Resetting Start value.

11:01:42 AM - Checking Start value in
System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Imapi key.

11:01:42 AM - Resetting Start value.

11:01:42 AM - Disk #0 layout info:

11:01:42 AM - PRIMARY
partition,start=0x0000000000007e00,
len=0x000000085d79a200, type= 7

11:01:42 AM - PRIMARY
partition,start=0x000000085d7a2000,
len=0x00000000289b0000, type= 7

11:01:42 AM - FREE partition,start=0x0000000886152000,
len=0x0000000010266000, type= 0

11:01:43 AM - Allocating EWF in PRIMARY partition,
start=0x0000000886152000, len=0x000000000000fc00.

11:01:43 AM - Created EWF partition on Disk = 0,
partition = 3,size = 0x000000000000fc00 .

11:01:43 AM - ewfOpen.

11:01:43 AM - ewfOpen returned invalid file handle.

11:01:43 AM - Deleting EWF Partition #3, disk#=0,
type=69

11:01:44 AM - ConfigureEwf() End, status = 0x57.

11:01:44 AM - [CallEntryPointThread]
C:\WINDOWS\system32
\ewfdll.dll, ConfigureEwf (Error: 0x57)


-----Original Message-----
You need to do either RAM Boot from CD, or EL- Torito CD
boot.

If you use El-Torito.
You might not care about OS writes to CD, but drivers
will certainly fail
such requests if you don't use RAM overlay.

Use google to search this NG for how to do this, it was
discussed many times
during last month.


Regards,
Slobodan

message
Ok. This is what I want to do. I am having a ton of
trouble getting XPE to work properly, so I am going
to
start one from scratch and tell you all what I am
trying
to do, and maybe get some hints and tips from you
all.

What I want: I want to create a bootable cd that I
can
throw into ANY machine(these machines are identical),
and
have it boot into Windows XP. I don't think I need a
RAM
overlay since I could care less about changes being
saved.
I just need a bootable windowsxp machine that can
touch
the network.

What I have done: I have run tap.exe and inported all
the
deivices, and added the custom scsi adaptor driver.

Can someone give me kind of a run through on what I
need
to do to make this work? I have been trying to get
this
to
for for 2 weeks now without any success...I am
getting
VERY frustrated....

Thanks in advance!

Paul


.



.


.
 
Slobodan-

I will agree with that, but if you are going to make it
difficult, at least make the resources available to make
it easier to understand how and why.

The HOWTO on building an image is fine, but stops there.
Why not go on to tell you how to make a bootable cd. The
documentation on that is absolutely no help. I have gone
step by step about 10 times, and I don't have a bootable
cd. I have absolutely no idea what or why I am doing the
things I am doing.

The harder to understand the product, the harder to
justify spending the money on it.

Sorry for the ranting, but it just seems like everyone on
this newsgroup has the same problems, and there are no
good solutions to any of them.
-----Original Message-----
It's more appropriate to say that MS did not make it easy to do this.
They simply made it work, and they stopped there.
It's up to you to understand all things that need to be done (and why they
need to be done), and to apply them properly.

Sorry,
Slobodan

I don't understand why MS has make it so incredibly
tedious and difficult to make a bootable cd out of an
already working booting hard drive. Incredible. I was able
to do this with linux in about 1/2 a day. 2 weeks into
this and still no beans.
-----Original Message-----
Since you have chosen to use EWF then this means that
you
are trying to
create El-Torito CD.
Search in product documentation for El-Torito, there
you
will find steps you
need to perform so you can make bootable CD.
Also search this news group for El-Torito by using
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-
8&oe=UTF-
8&group=microsoft.
public.windowsxp.embedded


Regards,
Slobodan


Ok, I think I just did this successfully. I got the
following output from doing ewfmgr c:

Protected Volume Configuration
Type RAM
State DISABLED
Volume ID CD CC CD CC 00 20 7A 5D 08 00 00 00 00
00 00 00
Device Name "\Device\HarddiskVolume2" [C:]
Max Levels 1
Clump Size 512
Current Level 1

Memory used for data 0 bytes
Memory used for mapping 0 bytes

So I did a ewfmgr -enable c:


So what should I do know? Make the iso? Thanks for all
your help!

Paul
-----Original Message-----
For CD or RAM disk boot your boot volume must be C:.
One way to do this you can find here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/embedded/community/tips/x
p/runtimepartition
..asp

Second you need to configure RAM EWF to protect OS
partition this requires
you to enter valid partition path.
You can read more info from doc contained in ramewf.zip
on www.xpefiles.com


Regards,
Slobodan

message
Ok, I just created an image, and moved it over to
my
E:
drive. FBA looks like in completed wonderfully. So I
booted into the XPE image, everything looks good, but
when
I do a 'ewfmgr' it says it can't find an ewf partition,
or
something to that effect. Even though it said that I
did a
etprep -all. Should I do an hd2iso, or is there
something
wrong with ewf? Here is the output from fbalog.txt:

11:01:41 AM - ConfigureEwf() Start.

11:01:42 AM - Getting EWF config parameters from
registry.

11:01:42 AM - EWF Partition Size = 250000 (KBytes),
Levels = 1, Volumes = 1.

11:01:42 AM - Protected Volume Config #0 :

11:01:42 AM - Disk= 1,Part= 2,DiskType= IDE,Type=
RAM.

11:01:42 AM - Enable= Disabled, Optimize= 0,
LazyWrite= N.

11:01:42 AM - Found 1 Hard Disks.

11:01:42 AM - Searching for El Torito disk.

11:01:42 AM - Disk0 signature = 0xCCCDCCCD.

11:01:42 AM - Checking Start value in
System\CurrentControlSet\Services\redbook key.

11:01:42 AM - Resetting Start value.

11:01:42 AM - Checking Start value in
System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Imapi key.

11:01:42 AM - Resetting Start value.

11:01:42 AM - Disk #0 layout info:

11:01:42 AM - PRIMARY
partition,start=0x0000000000007e00,
len=0x000000085d79a200, type= 7

11:01:42 AM - PRIMARY
partition,start=0x000000085d7a2000,
len=0x00000000289b0000, type= 7

11:01:42 AM - FREE partition,start=0x0000000886152000,
len=0x0000000010266000, type= 0

11:01:43 AM - Allocating EWF in PRIMARY partition,
start=0x0000000886152000, len=0x000000000000fc00.

11:01:43 AM - Created EWF partition on Disk = 0,
partition = 3,size = 0x000000000000fc00 .

11:01:43 AM - ewfOpen.

11:01:43 AM - ewfOpen returned invalid file handle.

11:01:43 AM - Deleting EWF Partition #3, disk#=0,
type=69

11:01:44 AM - ConfigureEwf() End, status = 0x57.

11:01:44 AM - [CallEntryPointThread]
C:\WINDOWS\system32
\ewfdll.dll, ConfigureEwf (Error: 0x57)


-----Original Message-----
You need to do either RAM Boot from CD, or EL- Torito CD
boot.

If you use El-Torito.
You might not care about OS writes to CD, but drivers
will certainly fail
such requests if you don't use RAM overlay.

Use google to search this NG for how to do this,
it
was
discussed many times
during last month.


Regards,
Slobodan

"Paul" <[email protected]>
wrote
in
message
Ok. This is what I want to do. I am having a
ton
of
trouble getting XPE to work properly, so I am going
to
start one from scratch and tell you all what I am
trying
to do, and maybe get some hints and tips from you
all.

What I want: I want to create a bootable cd that I
can
throw into ANY machine(these machines are identical),
and
have it boot into Windows XP. I don't think I need a
RAM
overlay since I could care less about changes being
saved.
I just need a bootable windowsxp machine that can
touch
the network.

What I have done: I have run tap.exe and
inported
all
the
deivices, and added the custom scsi adaptor driver.

Can someone give me kind of a run through on
what
I
need
to do to make this work? I have been trying to get
this
to
for for 2 weeks now without any success...I am
getting
VERY frustrated....

Thanks in advance!

Paul


.



.



.


.
 
Paul,

I always forget that only small number of people use their spare time to
search and read many related and unrelated documentations to things they are
doing :)
Following docs will give you insight to what is done when you use command
prompt utilities from XPe.
But this info is not required to make El torito CD work.
I personally don't use El Torito. I found that RAM boot from CD is more
appropriate for our needs.

Go to http://www.phoenix.com and search for El Torito you will find plenty
of info.
Also you can search IBM site as well.

http://www.phoenix.com/resources/wp-bootcd.pdf?BTNSEARCH.X=6\&BTNSEARCH.Y=6#
Page=3
http://www.phoenix.com/resources/specs-cdrom.pdf?BTNSEARCH.X=6\&BTNSEARCH.Y=
6#Page=13

Yes many peoples have problems with El Torito, since it is hard to tracks
and do every step correctly, or to improvise some steps if you don't do
everything by the book.

Can you state what you have done so far, and what errors you encountered?

Regards,
Slobodan



Paul said:
Slobodan-

I will agree with that, but if you are going to make it
difficult, at least make the resources available to make
it easier to understand how and why.

The HOWTO on building an image is fine, but stops there.
Why not go on to tell you how to make a bootable cd. The
documentation on that is absolutely no help. I have gone
step by step about 10 times, and I don't have a bootable
cd. I have absolutely no idea what or why I am doing the
things I am doing.

The harder to understand the product, the harder to
justify spending the money on it.

Sorry for the ranting, but it just seems like everyone on
this newsgroup has the same problems, and there are no
good solutions to any of them.
-----Original Message-----
It's more appropriate to say that MS did not make it easy to do this.
They simply made it work, and they stopped there.
It's up to you to understand all things that need to be done (and why they
need to be done), and to apply them properly.

Sorry,
Slobodan

I don't understand why MS has make it so incredibly
tedious and difficult to make a bootable cd out of an
already working booting hard drive. Incredible. I was able
to do this with linux in about 1/2 a day. 2 weeks into
this and still no beans.
-----Original Message-----
Since you have chosen to use EWF then this means that you
are trying to
create El-Torito CD.
Search in product documentation for El-Torito, there you
will find steps you
need to perform so you can make bootable CD.
Also search this news group for El-Torito by using
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF- 8&oe=UTF-
8&group=microsoft.
public.windowsxp.embedded


Regards,
Slobodan


Ok, I think I just did this successfully. I got the
following output from doing ewfmgr c:

Protected Volume Configuration
Type RAM
State DISABLED
Volume ID CD CC CD CC 00 20 7A 5D 08 00 00 00 00
00 00 00
Device Name "\Device\HarddiskVolume2" [C:]
Max Levels 1
Clump Size 512
Current Level 1

Memory used for data 0 bytes
Memory used for mapping 0 bytes

So I did a ewfmgr -enable c:


So what should I do know? Make the iso? Thanks for all
your help!

Paul
-----Original Message-----
For CD or RAM disk boot your boot volume must be C:.
One way to do this you can find here:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/embedded/community/tips/x
p/runtimepartition
..asp

Second you need to configure RAM EWF to protect OS
partition this requires
you to enter valid partition path.
You can read more info from doc contained in ramewf.zip
on www.xpefiles.com


Regards,
Slobodan

message
Ok, I just created an image, and moved it over to my
E:
drive. FBA looks like in completed wonderfully. So I
booted into the XPE image, everything looks good, but
when
I do a 'ewfmgr' it says it can't find an ewf
partition,
or
something to that effect. Even though it said that I
did a
etprep -all. Should I do an hd2iso, or is there
something
wrong with ewf? Here is the output from fbalog.txt:

11:01:41 AM - ConfigureEwf() Start.

11:01:42 AM - Getting EWF config parameters from
registry.

11:01:42 AM - EWF Partition Size = 250000 (KBytes),
Levels = 1, Volumes = 1.

11:01:42 AM - Protected Volume Config #0 :

11:01:42 AM - Disk= 1,Part= 2,DiskType= IDE,Type=
RAM.

11:01:42 AM - Enable= Disabled, Optimize= 0,
LazyWrite= N.

11:01:42 AM - Found 1 Hard Disks.

11:01:42 AM - Searching for El Torito disk.

11:01:42 AM - Disk0 signature = 0xCCCDCCCD.

11:01:42 AM - Checking Start value in
System\CurrentControlSet\Services\redbook key.

11:01:42 AM - Resetting Start value.

11:01:42 AM - Checking Start value in
System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Imapi key.

11:01:42 AM - Resetting Start value.

11:01:42 AM - Disk #0 layout info:

11:01:42 AM - PRIMARY
partition,start=0x0000000000007e00,
len=0x000000085d79a200, type= 7

11:01:42 AM - PRIMARY
partition,start=0x000000085d7a2000,
len=0x00000000289b0000, type= 7

11:01:42 AM - FREE
partition,start=0x0000000886152000,
len=0x0000000010266000, type= 0

11:01:43 AM - Allocating EWF in PRIMARY partition,
start=0x0000000886152000, len=0x000000000000fc00.

11:01:43 AM - Created EWF partition on Disk = 0,
partition = 3,size = 0x000000000000fc00 .

11:01:43 AM - ewfOpen.

11:01:43 AM - ewfOpen returned invalid file handle.

11:01:43 AM - Deleting EWF Partition #3, disk#=0,
type=69

11:01:44 AM - ConfigureEwf() End, status = 0x57.

11:01:44 AM - [CallEntryPointThread]
C:\WINDOWS\system32
\ewfdll.dll, ConfigureEwf (Error: 0x57)


-----Original Message-----
You need to do either RAM Boot from CD, or EL-
Torito CD
boot.

If you use El-Torito.
You might not care about OS writes to CD, but
drivers
will certainly fail
such requests if you don't use RAM overlay.

Use google to search this NG for how to do this, it
was
discussed many times
during last month.


Regards,
Slobodan

in
message
Ok. This is what I want to do. I am having a ton
of
trouble getting XPE to work properly, so I am
going
to
start one from scratch and tell you all what I am
trying
to do, and maybe get some hints and tips from you
all.

What I want: I want to create a bootable cd that I
can
throw into ANY machine(these machines are
identical),
and
have it boot into Windows XP. I don't think I
need a
RAM
overlay since I could care less about changes
being
saved.
I just need a bootable windowsxp machine that can
touch
the network.

What I have done: I have run tap.exe and inported
all
the
deivices, and added the custom scsi adaptor
driver.

Can someone give me kind of a run through on what
I
need
to do to make this work? I have been trying to get
this
to
for for 2 weeks now without any success...I am
getting
VERY frustrated....

Thanks in advance!

Paul


.



.



.


.
 
Slobodan-

I have searched, and searched and searched and searched
everything. I have used the msdn howto's to try to do this
with absolutely no success. All I want is a bootable winxp
distro, that runs off of the cd, and not the hard drive.
XPE is clearly the answer. It seems as most people don't
use XPE that way, so the support isn't there. It seems
most people use it for hdd/cf uses. Which I can get
working perfectly! My image works. It should just be a
button that says...."Create iso from workable image" and
BAM. You are done. I am not trying to be one of those
people that says the application should do everything for
you. I just think that if MS is going to put out a product
that it should be at least intuitive. This product works
against EVERYTHING else MS has put out. If I was MS I
would honestly be embarassed of this product how it stands.

All the problems and errors I have encountered have been
posted on this newsgroup.

You have been a huge help slobodan, and I would not have
even gotten as far as I have without your posts on this ng.

Ugh.
-----Original Message-----
Paul,

I always forget that only small number of people use their spare time to
search and read many related and unrelated documentations to things they are
doing :)
Following docs will give you insight to what is done when you use command
prompt utilities from XPe.
But this info is not required to make El torito CD work.
I personally don't use El Torito. I found that RAM boot from CD is more
appropriate for our needs.

Go to http://www.phoenix.com and search for El Torito you will find plenty
of info.
Also you can search IBM site as well.

http://www.phoenix.com/resources/wp-bootcd.pdf? BTNSEARCH.X=6\&BTNSEARCH.Y=6#
BTNSEARCH.X=6\&BTNSEARCH.Y=
6#Page=13

Yes many peoples have problems with El Torito, since it is hard to tracks
and do every step correctly, or to improvise some steps if you don't do
everything by the book.

Can you state what you have done so far, and what errors you encountered?

Regards,
Slobodan



Slobodan-

I will agree with that, but if you are going to make it
difficult, at least make the resources available to make
it easier to understand how and why.

The HOWTO on building an image is fine, but stops there.
Why not go on to tell you how to make a bootable cd. The
documentation on that is absolutely no help. I have gone
step by step about 10 times, and I don't have a bootable
cd. I have absolutely no idea what or why I am doing the
things I am doing.

The harder to understand the product, the harder to
justify spending the money on it.

Sorry for the ranting, but it just seems like everyone on
this newsgroup has the same problems, and there are no
good solutions to any of them.
-----Original Message-----
It's more appropriate to say that MS did not make it
easy
to do this.
They simply made it work, and they stopped there.
It's up to you to understand all things that need to be done (and why they
need to be done), and to apply them properly.

Sorry,
Slobodan

I don't understand why MS has make it so incredibly
tedious and difficult to make a bootable cd out of an
already working booting hard drive. Incredible. I was able
to do this with linux in about 1/2 a day. 2 weeks into
this and still no beans.
-----Original Message-----
Since you have chosen to use EWF then this means
that
you
are trying to
create El-Torito CD.
Search in product documentation for El-Torito, there you
will find steps you
need to perform so you can make bootable CD.
Also search this news group for El-Torito by using
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF- 8&oe=UTF-
8&group=microsoft.
public.windowsxp.embedded


Regards,
Slobodan


Ok, I think I just did this successfully. I got the
following output from doing ewfmgr c:

Protected Volume Configuration
Type RAM
State DISABLED
Volume ID CD CC CD CC 00 20 7A 5D 08 00 00 00 00
00 00 00
Device Name "\Device\HarddiskVolume2" [C:]
Max Levels 1
Clump Size 512
Current Level 1

Memory used for data 0 bytes
Memory used for mapping 0 bytes

So I did a ewfmgr -enable c:


So what should I do know? Make the iso? Thanks for all
your help!

Paul
-----Original Message-----
For CD or RAM disk boot your boot volume must be C:.
One way to do this you can find here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/embedded/community/tips/x
p/runtimepartition
..asp

Second you need to configure RAM EWF to protect OS
partition this requires
you to enter valid partition path.
You can read more info from doc contained in ramewf.zip
on www.xpefiles.com


Regards,
Slobodan

"Paul" <[email protected]>
wrote
in
message
Ok, I just created an image, and moved it over
to
my
E:
drive. FBA looks like in completed wonderfully. So I
booted into the XPE image, everything looks
good,
but
when
I do a 'ewfmgr' it says it can't find an ewf
partition,
or
something to that effect. Even though it said that I
did a
etprep -all. Should I do an hd2iso, or is there
something
wrong with ewf? Here is the output from fbalog.txt:

11:01:41 AM - ConfigureEwf() Start.

11:01:42 AM - Getting EWF config parameters from
registry.

11:01:42 AM - EWF Partition Size = 250000 (KBytes),
Levels = 1, Volumes = 1.

11:01:42 AM - Protected Volume Config #0 :

11:01:42 AM - Disk= 1,Part= 2,DiskType= IDE,Type=
RAM.

11:01:42 AM - Enable= Disabled, Optimize= 0,
LazyWrite= N.

11:01:42 AM - Found 1 Hard Disks.

11:01:42 AM - Searching for El Torito disk.

11:01:42 AM - Disk0 signature = 0xCCCDCCCD.

11:01:42 AM - Checking Start value in
System\CurrentControlSet\Services\redbook key.

11:01:42 AM - Resetting Start value.

11:01:42 AM - Checking Start value in
System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Imapi key.

11:01:42 AM - Resetting Start value.

11:01:42 AM - Disk #0 layout info:

11:01:42 AM - PRIMARY
partition,start=0x0000000000007e00,
len=0x000000085d79a200, type= 7

11:01:42 AM - PRIMARY
partition,start=0x000000085d7a2000,
len=0x00000000289b0000, type= 7

11:01:42 AM - FREE
partition,start=0x0000000886152000,
len=0x0000000010266000, type= 0

11:01:43 AM - Allocating EWF in PRIMARY partition,
start=0x0000000886152000, len=0x000000000000fc00.

11:01:43 AM - Created EWF partition on Disk = 0,
partition = 3,size = 0x000000000000fc00 .

11:01:43 AM - ewfOpen.

11:01:43 AM - ewfOpen returned invalid file handle.

11:01:43 AM - Deleting EWF Partition #3, disk#=0,
type=69

11:01:44 AM - ConfigureEwf() End, status = 0x57.

11:01:44 AM - [CallEntryPointThread]
C:\WINDOWS\system32
\ewfdll.dll, ConfigureEwf (Error: 0x57)


-----Original Message-----
You need to do either RAM Boot from CD, or EL-
Torito CD
boot.

If you use El-Torito.
You might not care about OS writes to CD, but
drivers
will certainly fail
such requests if you don't use RAM overlay.

Use google to search this NG for how to do
this,
it
was
discussed many times
during last month.


Regards,
Slobodan

in
message
Ok. This is what I want to do. I am having a ton
of
trouble getting XPE to work properly, so I am
going
to
start one from scratch and tell you all
what I
am
trying
to do, and maybe get some hints and tips
from
you
all.

What I want: I want to create a bootable cd that I
can
throw into ANY machine(these machines are
identical),
and
have it boot into Windows XP. I don't think I
need a
RAM
overlay since I could care less about changes
being
saved.
I just need a bootable windowsxp machine
that
can
touch
the network.

What I have done: I have run tap.exe and inported
all
the
deivices, and added the custom scsi adaptor
driver.

Can someone give me kind of a run through on what
I
need
to do to make this work? I have been trying
to
get
this
to
for for 2 weeks now without any success...I am
getting
VERY frustrated....

Thanks in advance!

Paul


.



.



.



.


.
 
Now when you mention that we already discussed this, I looked what we have
talked about (I forgot sorry).
Don't say that I have been of huge help I might led you to the dangerous way
(and you were probably not ready to compensate manually changes we done).

You are using unsupported way not described but MS to make El-Torito.

Since you have applied both suggestions I gave, you might go to the wrong
way.

MS doc says that you must use partition 1 and C: for El-Torito.

Also don't forget to swap drive letters. And to modify required drivers to
be loaded by ntloader.

What I have described previously is most likely not your problem. If you
want to go from real scratch then you must use MS way from beginning (empty
HDD, very ugly, but it should work).

If you want to continue pushing my way, then when you make El-torito image
from command prompt utility you must use partition 2 (I assume that this is
your partition) as boot partition on CD.

Methods I described are very useful for easy development but you must be
aware at all times what other implications they may cause and you must
always have them in mind so you can compensate.


Regards,
Slobodan





Paul said:
Slobodan-

I have searched, and searched and searched and searched
everything. I have used the msdn howto's to try to do this
with absolutely no success. All I want is a bootable winxp
distro, that runs off of the cd, and not the hard drive.
XPE is clearly the answer. It seems as most people don't
use XPE that way, so the support isn't there. It seems
most people use it for hdd/cf uses. Which I can get
working perfectly! My image works. It should just be a
button that says...."Create iso from workable image" and
BAM. You are done. I am not trying to be one of those
people that says the application should do everything for
you. I just think that if MS is going to put out a product
that it should be at least intuitive. This product works
against EVERYTHING else MS has put out. If I was MS I
would honestly be embarassed of this product how it stands.

All the problems and errors I have encountered have been
posted on this newsgroup.

You have been a huge help slobodan, and I would not have
even gotten as far as I have without your posts on this ng.

Ugh.
-----Original Message-----
Paul,

I always forget that only small number of people use their spare time to
search and read many related and unrelated documentations to things they are
doing :)
Following docs will give you insight to what is done when you use command
prompt utilities from XPe.
But this info is not required to make El torito CD work.
I personally don't use El Torito. I found that RAM boot from CD is more
appropriate for our needs.

Go to http://www.phoenix.com and search for El Torito you will find plenty
of info.
Also you can search IBM site as well.

http://www.phoenix.com/resources/wp-bootcd.pdf? BTNSEARCH.X=6\&BTNSEARCH.Y=6#
BTNSEARCH.X=6\&BTNSEARCH.Y=
6#Page=13

Yes many peoples have problems with El Torito, since it is hard to tracks
and do every step correctly, or to improvise some steps if you don't do
everything by the book.

Can you state what you have done so far, and what errors you encountered?

Regards,
Slobodan



Slobodan-

I will agree with that, but if you are going to make it
difficult, at least make the resources available to make
it easier to understand how and why.

The HOWTO on building an image is fine, but stops there.
Why not go on to tell you how to make a bootable cd. The
documentation on that is absolutely no help. I have gone
step by step about 10 times, and I don't have a bootable
cd. I have absolutely no idea what or why I am doing the
things I am doing.

The harder to understand the product, the harder to
justify spending the money on it.

Sorry for the ranting, but it just seems like everyone on
this newsgroup has the same problems, and there are no
good solutions to any of them.
-----Original Message-----
It's more appropriate to say that MS did not make it easy
to do this.
They simply made it work, and they stopped there.
It's up to you to understand all things that need to be
done (and why they
need to be done), and to apply them properly.

Sorry,
Slobodan

message
I don't understand why MS has make it so incredibly
tedious and difficult to make a bootable cd out of an
already working booting hard drive. Incredible. I was
able
to do this with linux in about 1/2 a day. 2 weeks into
this and still no beans.
-----Original Message-----
Since you have chosen to use EWF then this means that
you
are trying to
create El-Torito CD.
Search in product documentation for El-Torito, there
you
will find steps you
need to perform so you can make bootable CD.
Also search this news group for El-Torito by using
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-
8&oe=UTF-
8&group=microsoft.
public.windowsxp.embedded


Regards,
Slobodan


Ok, I think I just did this successfully. I got the
following output from doing ewfmgr c:

Protected Volume Configuration
Type RAM
State DISABLED
Volume ID CD CC CD CC 00 20 7A 5D 08 00 00
00 00
00 00 00
Device Name "\Device\HarddiskVolume2" [C:]
Max Levels 1
Clump Size 512
Current Level 1

Memory used for data 0 bytes
Memory used for mapping 0 bytes

So I did a ewfmgr -enable c:


So what should I do know? Make the iso? Thanks for
all
your help!

Paul
-----Original Message-----
For CD or RAM disk boot your boot volume must be C:.
One way to do this you can find here:


http://www.microsoft.com/windows/embedded/community/tips/x
p/runtimepartition
..asp

Second you need to configure RAM EWF to protect OS
partition this requires
you to enter valid partition path.
You can read more info from doc contained in
ramewf.zip
on www.xpefiles.com


Regards,
Slobodan

in
message
Ok, I just created an image, and moved it over to
my
E:
drive. FBA looks like in completed wonderfully.
So I
booted into the XPE image, everything looks good,
but
when
I do a 'ewfmgr' it says it can't find an ewf
partition,
or
something to that effect. Even though it said
that I
did a
etprep -all. Should I do an hd2iso, or is there
something
wrong with ewf? Here is the output from
fbalog.txt:

11:01:41 AM - ConfigureEwf() Start.

11:01:42 AM - Getting EWF config parameters from
registry.

11:01:42 AM - EWF Partition Size = 250000
(KBytes),
Levels = 1, Volumes = 1.

11:01:42 AM - Protected Volume Config #0 :

11:01:42 AM - Disk= 1,Part= 2,DiskType=
IDE,Type=
RAM.

11:01:42 AM - Enable= Disabled, Optimize= 0,
LazyWrite= N.

11:01:42 AM - Found 1 Hard Disks.

11:01:42 AM - Searching for El Torito disk.

11:01:42 AM - Disk0 signature = 0xCCCDCCCD.

11:01:42 AM - Checking Start value in
System\CurrentControlSet\Services\redbook key.

11:01:42 AM - Resetting Start value.

11:01:42 AM - Checking Start value in
System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Imapi key.

11:01:42 AM - Resetting Start value.

11:01:42 AM - Disk #0 layout info:

11:01:42 AM - PRIMARY
partition,start=0x0000000000007e00,
len=0x000000085d79a200, type= 7

11:01:42 AM - PRIMARY
partition,start=0x000000085d7a2000,
len=0x00000000289b0000, type= 7

11:01:42 AM - FREE
partition,start=0x0000000886152000,
len=0x0000000010266000, type= 0

11:01:43 AM - Allocating EWF in PRIMARY
partition,
start=0x0000000886152000, len=0x000000000000fc00.

11:01:43 AM - Created EWF partition on Disk = 0,
partition = 3,size = 0x000000000000fc00 .

11:01:43 AM - ewfOpen.

11:01:43 AM - ewfOpen returned invalid file
handle.

11:01:43 AM - Deleting EWF Partition #3,
disk#=0,
type=69

11:01:44 AM - ConfigureEwf() End, status = 0x57.

11:01:44 AM - [CallEntryPointThread]
C:\WINDOWS\system32
\ewfdll.dll, ConfigureEwf (Error: 0x57)


-----Original Message-----
You need to do either RAM Boot from CD, or EL-
Torito CD
boot.

If you use El-Torito.
You might not care about OS writes to CD, but
drivers
will certainly fail
such requests if you don't use RAM overlay.

Use google to search this NG for how to do this,
it
was
discussed many times
during last month.


Regards,
Slobodan

"Paul" <[email protected]>
wrote
in
message
Ok. This is what I want to do. I am having a
ton
of
trouble getting XPE to work properly, so I am
going
to
start one from scratch and tell you all what I
am
trying
to do, and maybe get some hints and tips from
you
all.

What I want: I want to create a bootable cd
that I
can
throw into ANY machine(these machines are
identical),
and
have it boot into Windows XP. I don't think I
need a
RAM
overlay since I could care less about changes
being
saved.
I just need a bootable windowsxp machine that
can
touch
the network.

What I have done: I have run tap.exe and
inported
all
the
deivices, and added the custom scsi adaptor
driver.

Can someone give me kind of a run through on
what
I
need
to do to make this work? I have been trying to
get
this
to
for for 2 weeks now without any success...I am
getting
VERY frustrated....

Thanks in advance!

Paul


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Slobodan-

Now when you mention that we already discussed this, I looked what we have
talked about (I forgot sorry).
Don't say that I have been of huge help I might led you to the dangerous way
(and you were probably not ready to compensate manually
changes we done).

It is ok!
You are using unsupported way not described but MS to
make El-Torito.

I figured that out ;)
Since you have applied both suggestions I gave, you might go to the wrong
way.

MS doc says that you must use partition 1 and C: for El- Torito.

Done.

Also don't forget to swap drive letters. And to modify required drivers to
be loaded by ntloader.
Done.

What I have described previously is most likely not your problem. If you
want to go from real scratch then you must use MS way from beginning (empty
HDD, very ugly, but it should work).

Tried it.
If you want to continue pushing my way, then when you make El-torito image
from command prompt utility you must use partition 2 (I assume that this is
your partition) as boot partition on CD.

DAMNIT! That might be it. I will try tomorrow....
Methods I described are very useful for easy development but you must be
aware at all times what other implications they may cause and you must
always have them in mind so you can compensate.


Regards,
Slobodan





Slobodan-

I have searched, and searched and searched and searched
everything. I have used the msdn howto's to try to do this
with absolutely no success. All I want is a bootable winxp
distro, that runs off of the cd, and not the hard drive.
XPE is clearly the answer. It seems as most people don't
use XPE that way, so the support isn't there. It seems
most people use it for hdd/cf uses. Which I can get
working perfectly! My image works. It should just be a
button that says...."Create iso from workable image" and
BAM. You are done. I am not trying to be one of those
people that says the application should do everything for
you. I just think that if MS is going to put out a product
that it should be at least intuitive. This product works
against EVERYTHING else MS has put out. If I was MS I
would honestly be embarassed of this product how it stands.

All the problems and errors I have encountered have been
posted on this newsgroup.

You have been a huge help slobodan, and I would not have
even gotten as far as I have without your posts on this ng.

Ugh.
-----Original Message-----
Paul,

I always forget that only small number of people use their spare time to
search and read many related and unrelated
documentations
to things they are
doing :)
Following docs will give you insight to what is done
when
you use command
prompt utilities from XPe.
But this info is not required to make El torito CD work.
I personally don't use El Torito. I found that RAM boot from CD is more
appropriate for our needs.

Go to http://www.phoenix.com and search for El Torito
you
will find plenty
of info.
Also you can search IBM site as well.

http://www.phoenix.com/resources/wp-bootcd.pdf? BTNSEARCH.X=6\&BTNSEARCH.Y=6#
BTNSEARCH.X=6\&BTNSEARCH.Y=
6#Page=13

Yes many peoples have problems with El Torito, since it is hard to tracks
and do every step correctly, or to improvise some steps if you don't do
everything by the book.

Can you state what you have done so far, and what
errors
you encountered?
Regards,
Slobodan



Slobodan-

I will agree with that, but if you are going to make it
difficult, at least make the resources available to make
it easier to understand how and why.

The HOWTO on building an image is fine, but stops there.
Why not go on to tell you how to make a bootable cd. The
documentation on that is absolutely no help. I have gone
step by step about 10 times, and I don't have a bootable
cd. I have absolutely no idea what or why I am doing the
things I am doing.

The harder to understand the product, the harder to
justify spending the money on it.

Sorry for the ranting, but it just seems like
everyone
on
this newsgroup has the same problems, and there are no
good solutions to any of them.
-----Original Message-----
It's more appropriate to say that MS did not make it easy
to do this.
They simply made it work, and they stopped there.
It's up to you to understand all things that need to be
done (and why they
need to be done), and to apply them properly.

Sorry,
Slobodan

message
I don't understand why MS has make it so incredibly
tedious and difficult to make a bootable cd out of an
already working booting hard drive. Incredible. I was
able
to do this with linux in about 1/2 a day. 2 weeks into
this and still no beans.
-----Original Message-----
Since you have chosen to use EWF then this means that
you
are trying to
create El-Torito CD.
Search in product documentation for El-Torito, there
you
will find steps you
need to perform so you can make bootable CD.
Also search this news group for El-Torito by using
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-
8&oe=UTF-
8&group=microsoft.
public.windowsxp.embedded


Regards,
Slobodan


Ok, I think I just did this successfully. I got the
following output from doing ewfmgr c:

Protected Volume Configuration
Type RAM
State DISABLED
Volume ID CD CC CD CC 00 20 7A 5D 08 00 00
00 00
00 00 00
Device Name "\Device\HarddiskVolume2" [C:]
Max Levels 1
Clump Size 512
Current Level 1

Memory used for data 0 bytes
Memory used for mapping 0 bytes

So I did a ewfmgr -enable c:


So what should I do know? Make the iso? Thanks for
all
your help!

Paul
-----Original Message-----
For CD or RAM disk boot your boot volume must
be
C:.
One way to do this you can find here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/embedded/community/tips/x
p/runtimepartition
..asp

Second you need to configure RAM EWF to
protect
OS
partition this requires
you to enter valid partition path.
You can read more info from doc contained in
ramewf.zip
on www.xpefiles.com


Regards,
Slobodan

in
message
Ok, I just created an image, and moved it
over
to
my
E:
drive. FBA looks like in completed wonderfully.
So I
booted into the XPE image, everything looks good,
but
when
I do a 'ewfmgr' it says it can't find an ewf
partition,
or
something to that effect. Even though it said
that I
did a
etprep -all. Should I do an hd2iso, or is there
something
wrong with ewf? Here is the output from
fbalog.txt:

11:01:41 AM - ConfigureEwf() Start.

11:01:42 AM - Getting EWF config
parameters
from
registry.

11:01:42 AM - EWF Partition Size = 250000
(KBytes),
Levels = 1, Volumes = 1.

11:01:42 AM - Protected Volume Config #0 :

11:01:42 AM - Disk= 1,Part= 2,DiskType=
IDE,Type=
RAM.

11:01:42 AM - Enable= Disabled,
Optimize=
0,
LazyWrite= N.

11:01:42 AM - Found 1 Hard Disks.

11:01:42 AM - Searching for El Torito disk.

11:01:42 AM - Disk0 signature = 0xCCCDCCCD.

11:01:42 AM - Checking Start value in
System\CurrentControlSet\Services\redbook key.

11:01:42 AM - Resetting Start value.

11:01:42 AM - Checking Start value in
System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Imapi key.

11:01:42 AM - Resetting Start value.

11:01:42 AM - Disk #0 layout info:

11:01:42 AM - PRIMARY
partition,start=0x0000000000007e00,
len=0x000000085d79a200, type= 7

11:01:42 AM - PRIMARY
partition,start=0x000000085d7a2000,
len=0x00000000289b0000, type= 7

11:01:42 AM - FREE
partition,start=0x0000000886152000,
len=0x0000000010266000, type= 0

11:01:43 AM - Allocating EWF in PRIMARY
partition,
start=0x0000000886152000, len=0x000000000000fc00.

11:01:43 AM - Created EWF partition on
Disk
= 0,
partition = 3,size = 0x000000000000fc00 .

11:01:43 AM - ewfOpen.

11:01:43 AM - ewfOpen returned invalid file
handle.

11:01:43 AM - Deleting EWF Partition #3,
disk#=0,
type=69

11:01:44 AM - ConfigureEwf() End, status = 0x57.

11:01:44 AM - [CallEntryPointThread]
C:\WINDOWS\system32
\ewfdll.dll, ConfigureEwf (Error: 0x57)


-----Original Message-----
You need to do either RAM Boot from CD, or EL-
Torito CD
boot.

If you use El-Torito.
You might not care about OS writes to CD, but
drivers
will certainly fail
such requests if you don't use RAM overlay.

Use google to search this NG for how to do this,
it
was
discussed many times
during last month.


Regards,
Slobodan

"Paul"
wrote
in
message
[email protected]...
Ok. This is what I want to do. I am having a
ton
of
trouble getting XPE to work properly, so
I
am
going
to
start one from scratch and tell you all what I
am
trying
to do, and maybe get some hints and tips from
you
all.

What I want: I want to create a bootable cd
that I
can
throw into ANY machine(these machines are
identical),
and
have it boot into Windows XP. I don't
think
I
need a
RAM
overlay since I could care less about changes
being
saved.
I just need a bootable windowsxp machine that
can
touch
the network.

What I have done: I have run tap.exe and
inported
all
the
deivices, and added the custom scsi adaptor
driver.

Can someone give me kind of a run through on
what
I
need
to do to make this work? I have been
trying
to
get
this
to
for for 2 weeks now without any
success...I
am
getting
VERY frustrated....

Thanks in advance!

Paul


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Let me start from scratch with additional questions. I realized that you
have not complained at any error yet.

1. Have you been able to boot First XPe CD (Win PE) successfully?
2. When you try to boot CD with XPe you made what happens?
- Nothing (no bootable CD detected)
- XPe start loading and crashes.
- You see desktop and you have some error message boxes?
- BSOD, and what number?

Regards,
Slobodan
 
I have made my first XPe El torito image that is working.
I took me two hours to make it work. Most of this time I spent on trying to
understand why hd2iso won't make bootable CD.

It's best to follow El-Torito specification to the letter. Find HDD smaller
than 700 MB and have only one FAT partition that is active and bootable.

Since I don't have HDD that meats this requirement I have used sdiloader.exe
to create virtual disk with adequate size.

My first HDD partition is bootable and in boot.ini I have multi os choice.
XPe FBA is run from logical partition 6 with of course reassigned volume
letter C:.
RAM EWF is configured to be enabled by default and it is protecting unused
boot partition (first partition not XPe partition).
In El-torito component it is preferred to leave disksig default ('ELTO').

use hd2iso to make iso file.
use MS CDBurn command prompt util to record CD.
You need to have El-Torito CD with this signature in CD drive before FBA. (I
don't know yet why)

After the FBA completes.

You need to change two values in registry to 0.
System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Imapi\Start
System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Redbook\Start

Go to SYSTEM\MountedDevices and delete everything except only two values
that have in data disk signature 45 4C 54 4F.
Also change volume letter to \\DosDevices\C

Reboot.

use sdiloader.exe to create virtual disk.
use diskpart to make one partition, and activate it.
format partition with FAT.
Copy post FBA XPe files to this part.
use hd2iso to make iso file.
use MS CDBurn command prompt util to record CD.


I think that this is all what is required :)
Quite simple.


Regards,
Slobodan
 
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