Start-up time? (Message to Malke)

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Huib

Hi,
Short repetition of the question: start-up done after 180sec, disk for
30sec. quite and than active for about 4 minutes.
AVG removed and most of items mentioned in the start-up tab of MSconfig
(could also be done in Autoruns) disabled , but no change.
No back-up, no major task, systeem restore, AVG-scan, events-logs or other
programs running at the time of the disc activity.

I am sorry i missed your question and afterwards i had some difficulty to
copy the information of the Logon-tab from autoruns (only by copying line by
line it was possible)

No= no action performed on it nor in MSconfig neither in autoruns.

The logon-tab of Autoruns gives
No :C:\Windows\system32\userinit.exe Aanmeldingstoepassing Userinit
Microsoft
No :Corporation c:\windows\system32\userinit.exe
No: explorer.exe Windows Verkenner Microsoft Corporation
c:\windows\explorer.exe
AVG8_TRAY AVG Tray Monitor AVG Technologies CZ,
s.r.o.c:\programfiles\avg\avg8\avgtray.exe
beidsystemtray beidsystemtray Zetes c:\program files\belgium
identity card\beidsystemtray.exe
HP Health Check Scheduler HP Health Check
SchedulerHewlett-Packard c:\programfiles\hewlett-packard\hp health
check\hphc_scheduler.exe
HP Software Update hpwuSchd Application
Hewlett-Packardc:\programfiles\hp\hp softwareupdate\hpwuschd2.exe
hpWirelessAssistant HPWAMain Module Hewlett-Packard Development
Company, L.P. c:\program files\hewlett-packard\hp wireless
assistant\hpwamain.exe
No :NvCplDaemon NVIDIA Display Properties Extension NVIDIA
No :Corporationc:\windows\system32\nvcpl.dllNvMediaCenter NVIDIA Media
CenterLibrary NVIDIA Corporation
c:\windows\system32\nvmctray.dll
QlbCtrl QLB Controller Hewlett-Packard Development Company,
L.P. c:\program files\hewlett-packard\hp quick launch buttons\qlbctrl.exe
QPService HP QuickPlay Resident Program CyberLink
Corp.c:\programfiles\hp\quickplay\qpservice.exe
SynTPEnh Synaptics TouchPad Enhancements Synaptics,
Inc.c:\programfiles\synaptics\syntp\syntpenh.exe
SynTPStart Synaptics Pointing Device starter Synaptics,
Inc.c:\programfiles\synaptics\syntp\syntpstart.exe
Windows Defender Windows Defender User Interface Microsoft
Corporation c:\program files\windows defender\msascui.exe
Launcher Launcher soft thinks c:\windows\sminst\launcher.exe
ehTray.exe Media Center Tray Applet Microsoft
Corporationc:\windows\ehome\ehtray.exeMSconfig :Sidebar Windows Sidebar
Microsoft Corporation c:\program files\windows sidebar\sidebar.exe

Any adivice is still welcome
Regards
Huib
 
Huib wrote:

It is really too bad that you chose to create a *new* post instead of
keeping to your previous thread. This makes it difficult to refer to all the
previous posts to get a good picture of what is going on. There was no
reason to create a new post at all.
Short repetition of the question: start-up done after 180sec, disk for
30sec. quite and than active for about 4 minutes.
AVG removed and most of items mentioned in the start-up tab of MSconfig
(could also be done in Autoruns) disabled , but no change.
No back-up, no major task, systeem restore, AVG-scan, events-logs or other
programs running at the time of the disc activity.
Click to expand...

I'll make a note of what needs to start and what shouldn't from your list
below but if that doesn't solve your issue then I'm sorry but I can do no
more. If the wait is onerous - and 4 minutes certainly is more lengthy than
it should be - take the machine to a competent local computer tech or have
them come on-site if this is a business. Someone who can look at the machine
directly will have a far better chance of pinpointing the culprit(s) than
someone merely reading about it in a newsgroup. If you go this route, don't
use your local equivalent of a BigComputerStore/GeekSquad type of place.
No= no action performed on it nor in MSconfig neither in autoruns.

The logon-tab of Autoruns gives
No :C:\Windows\system32\userinit.exe Aanmeldingstoepassing Userinit
Microsoft
No :Corporation c:\windows\system32\userinit.exe
No: explorer.exe Windows Verkenner Microsoft Corporation
c:\windows\explorer.exe
AVG8_TRAY AVG Tray Monitor AVG Technologies CZ,
s.r.o.c:\programfiles\avg\avg8\avgtray.exe
Click to expand...

The above items need to run at Startup.
beidsystemtray beidsystemtray Zetes c:\program files\belgium
identity card\beidsystemtray.exe
Click to expand...

If this Belgium Identity Card is some sort of smart card that you need for
work or is used to get to the Internet (3G network perhaps?) then I suppose
you need it. It could definitely slow down the system.
HP Health Check Scheduler HP Health Check
SchedulerHewlett-Packard c:\programfiles\hewlett-packard\hp health
check\hphc_scheduler.exe
HP Software Update hpwuSchd Application
Hewlett-Packardc:\programfiles\hp\hp softwareupdate\hpwuschd2.exe
Click to expand...

The items above should not start with Windows.
hpWirelessAssistant HPWAMain Module Hewlett-Packard Development
Company, L.P. c:\program files\hewlett-packard\hp wireless
assistant\hpwamain.exe
Click to expand...

The item above is optional to start with Windows but it doesn't slow down my
clients' machines more than a few seconds.
No :NvCplDaemon NVIDIA Display Properties Extension NVIDIA
Click to expand...

The item above can start with Windows.
No :Corporationc:\windows\system32\nvcpl.dllNvMediaCenter NVIDIA Media
CenterLibrary NVIDIA Corporation
c:\windows\system32\nvmctray.dll
Click to expand...

The item above doesn't need to start with Windows.
QlbCtrl QLB Controller Hewlett-Packard Development Company,
L.P. c:\program files\hewlett-packard\hp quick launch buttons\qlbctrl.exe
Click to expand...

The item above doesn't need to start with Windows but I usually leave it
enabled for my clients.
QPService HP QuickPlay Resident Program CyberLink
Corp.c:\programfiles\hp\quickplay\qpservice.exe
Click to expand...

If you don't use QuickPlay, the item above doesn't need to start with
Windows.
SynTPEnh Synaptics TouchPad Enhancements Synaptics,
Inc.c:\programfiles\synaptics\syntp\syntpenh.exe
SynTPStart Synaptics Pointing Device starter Synaptics,
Inc.c:\programfiles\synaptics\syntp\syntpstart.exe
Click to expand...

The items above should start with Windows.
Windows Defender Windows Defender User Interface Microsoft
Corporation c:\program files\windows defender\msascui.exe
Click to expand...

The item above should start with Windows.
Launcher Launcher soft thinks c:\windows\sminst\launcher.exe
ehTray.exe Media Center Tray Applet Microsoft
Corporationc:\windows\ehome\ehtray.exeMSconfig
Click to expand...

If you don't use Media Center, the items above don't have to start with
Windows.
Microsoft Corporation c:\program files\windows sidebar\sidebar.exe
Click to expand...

If you don't use the Sidebar, it doesn't need to start with Windows.

I don't see anything for a printer. If you have a printer installed, perhaps
it or its attending software is the culprit.

Since you didn't keep to your original thread, I don't know whether you ever
answered my question about entries in Event Viewer. Event Viewer is well
worth examining because if something is attempting to start but failing,
trying again, failing, and then finally timing out that could produce the
symptoms you are seeing.

Malke
 
Malke said:
Huib wrote:

It is really too bad that you chose to create a *new* post instead of
keeping to your previous thread. This makes it difficult to refer to all
the
previous posts to get a good picture of what is going on. There was no
reason to create a new post at all.


I'll make a note of what needs to start and what shouldn't from your list
below but if that doesn't solve your issue then I'm sorry but I can do no
more. If the wait is onerous - and 4 minutes certainly is more lengthy
than
it should be - take the machine to a competent local computer tech or have
them come on-site if this is a business. Someone who can look at the
machine
directly will have a far better chance of pinpointing the culprit(s) than
someone merely reading about it in a newsgroup. If you go this route,
don't
use your local equivalent of a BigComputerStore/GeekSquad type of place.


The above items need to run at Startup.


If this Belgium Identity Card is some sort of smart card that you need for
work or is used to get to the Internet (3G network perhaps?) then I
suppose
you need it. It could definitely slow down the system.


The items above should not start with Windows.


The item above is optional to start with Windows but it doesn't slow down
my
clients' machines more than a few seconds.


The item above can start with Windows.


The item above doesn't need to start with Windows.


The item above doesn't need to start with Windows but I usually leave it
enabled for my clients.


If you don't use QuickPlay, the item above doesn't need to start with
Windows.


The items above should start with Windows.


The item above should start with Windows.


If you don't use Media Center, the items above don't have to start with
Windows.


If you don't use the Sidebar, it doesn't need to start with Windows.

I don't see anything for a printer. If you have a printer installed,
perhaps
it or its attending software is the culprit.

Since you didn't keep to your original thread, I don't know whether you
ever
answered my question about entries in Event Viewer. Event Viewer is well
worth examining because if something is attempting to start but failing,
trying again, failing, and then finally timing out that could produce the
symptoms you are seeing.

Malke
Click to expand...
Thanks for the info.
Indeed i think i have to look further in the events and there some which
gives a fault at that time.
One of them is : the parallell-driver service can not be started due to no
connection or has been disabled??????
I have no parallell port on my HP-laptob?? maybe a hint for you?
To answer your question on the printer: my current HP-printer is still
connected to an ME PC and when i need to print i set the ME-PC on , a local
connection is automaticaaly set up and the printing is performed.

I see no means to cancel that event? could it be a help?

Regards
Huib
 
Huib said:
Thanks for the info.
Indeed i think i have to look further in the events and there some which
gives a fault at that time.
One of them is : the parallell-driver service can not be started due to no
connection or has been disabled??????
I have no parallell port on my HP-laptob?? maybe a hint for you?
To answer your question on the printer: my current HP-printer is still
connected to an ME PC and when i need to print i set the ME-PC on , a
local connection is automaticaaly set up and the printing is performed.

I see no means to cancel that event? could it be a help?
Click to expand...

Do a Google search using the search term "parallel port driver service can
not be started due to no connection or has been disabled" and you'll get
quite a lot of links.

You'll need to spend some time looking further in Event Viewer. Perhaps you
once had a printer installed? It sounds like something is trying to start
and eventually timing out and only someone looking at the machine is going
to be able to figure that out.

Malke
 
Malke said:
Do a Google search using the search term "parallel port driver service can
not be started due to no connection or has been disabled" and you'll get
quite a lot of links.

You'll need to spend some time looking further in Event Viewer. Perhaps
you
once had a printer installed? It sounds like something is trying to start
and eventually timing out and only someone looking at the machine is going
to be able to figure that out.

Malke
Click to expand...
Many thanks,
I will focus me on that one first.
I remember that during the first installation and also after a reinstall i
had problems with installing the remote printer in the network.
I succeeded finally by activating a new port with the same settings (i never
understood it) but i see now in the register there is HPlaser and a
HPlaserJet 4 available.
In Dev Mode Per User : HPLaser and in Dev Modes2 HPLaser and HPLaserJet 4
Could this be a reason?
Regards
Huib
 
Huib said:
Many thanks,
I will focus me on that one first.
I remember that during the first installation and also after a reinstall i
had problems with installing the remote printer in the network.
I succeeded finally by activating a new port with the same settings (i
never understood it) but i see now in the register there is HPlaser and a
HPlaserJet 4 available.
In Dev Mode Per User : HPLaser and in Dev Modes2 HPLaser and HPLaserJet 4
Could this be a reason?
Regards
Huib
Click to expand...
Hi,
As extra information i dedected the following:
-Parallell port story: i disabled the networkprinter, marked also once the
LPT1-port but no changes the event stays.
-On the faulty events there is further CAPI2 and LoadPerf
-On the information: QPcapsvc & avgemc
-There is also Client Sertificate Service and Lightscriber service which has
been started...?

This are all events started during the disactivities.

I thank hou very much for the help and i do realise that myself i can not go
deeper into it and as you said and expert has to look onto it.
Many thanks for the help and for the direction you marked (i learned als
something)
Regards
Huib
 
Huib wrote:

As extra information i dedected the following:
-Parallell port story: i disabled the networkprinter, marked also once the
LPT1-port but no changes the event stays.
-On the faulty events there is further CAPI2 and LoadPerf
-On the information: QPcapsvc & avgemc
-There is also Client Sertificate Service and Lightscriber service which
has been started...?

This are all events started during the disactivities.

I thank hou very much for the help and i do realise that myself i can not
go deeper into it and as you said and expert has to look onto it.
Many thanks for the help and for the direction you marked (i learned als
something)
Click to expand...

You see, had you told me in the beginning that you had tried to install a
remote printer but failed and that there was no longer a remote printer
involved, I would have told you that the computer is probably looking for it
and eventually timing out. One of the very first things I asked you was if
you had mapped drives to network resources that no longer existed. You
didn't have a mapped drive, but you did have the computer looking for a
network resource that didn't exist. Oh well, water under the dam....

I can't untangle this from a newsgroup. A skilled computer tech needs to be
sitting at the machine. Don't use someone from a BigComputerStore/GeekSquad
type of place.

Cheers,

Malke
 
Malke said:
Huib wrote:



You see, had you told me in the beginning that you had tried to install a
remote printer but failed and that there was no longer a remote printer
involved, I would have told you that the computer is probably looking for
it
and eventually timing out. One of the very first things I asked you was if
you had mapped drives to network resources that no longer existed. You
didn't have a mapped drive, but you did have the computer looking for a
network resource that didn't exist. Oh well, water under the dam....

I can't untangle this from a newsgroup. A skilled computer tech needs to
be
sitting at the machine. Don't use someone from a
BigComputerStore/GeekSquad
type of place.

Cheers,

Malke
Click to expand...
Hi,

The remote printer is working ok.
I disabled the port indicating \\remoet PC name but also no difference.
No LP1 port is marked ...so why is he looking to a parallell port which the
laptop even don't have?
Could this be a general fault?
So the question is still can something to be done it and so yes what is the
way to go?
Why should i go to an expert if there is no solution at all?
Regards
Huib
 
Huib wrote:

The remote printer is working ok.
I disabled the port indicating \\remoet PC name but also no difference.
No LP1 port is marked ...so why is he looking to a parallell port which
the laptop even don't have?
Could this be a general fault?
So the question is still can something to be done it and so yes what is
the way to go?
Why should i go to an expert if there is no solution at all?
Click to expand...

I didn't say there was no solution. I said that I personally couldn't
untangle things without being able to see the machine. Hence my suggestion
to get a pro to come and sort things out in person. Maybe someone else
reading your thread can figure things out remotely via the written word.

I wish you the very best of success in your endeavors.

Malke
 
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