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CM
Hi All,
I wish to know what is latest stable of Vista after Beta 2? Thank
Man
I wish to know what is latest stable of Vista after Beta 2? Thank
Man
J
Jane C
There is no later build available to the public. Wait for RC1 later in the
year.
year.
R
Rick Rogers
Hi,
I've never considered any beta version to be "stable". That said, the next
public version should be RC1, and the technical beta testers are currently
using build 5456 (and "stable" is not a word I would use to describe it).
--
Best of Luck,
Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
I've never considered any beta version to be "stable". That said, the next
public version should be RC1, and the technical beta testers are currently
using build 5456 (and "stable" is not a word I would use to describe it).
--
Best of Luck,
Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
M
Mark D. VandenBerg
The release or the testers?
Hi,
I've never considered any beta version to be "stable". That said, the next
public version should be RC1, and the technical beta testers are currently
using build 5456 (and "stable" is not a word I would use to describe it).
--
Best of Luck,
Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
Hi,
I've never considered any beta version to be "stable". That said, the next
public version should be RC1, and the technical beta testers are currently
using build 5456 (and "stable" is not a word I would use to describe it).
--
Best of Luck,
Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
C
Colin Barnhorst
The first stable version of Vista will be the release version sometime in
early 2007.
early 2007.
R
roman modic
Hello!
But Vista SP1 will be more stable !? :>
Roman
Colin Barnhorst said:
But Vista SP1 will be more stable !? :>
Roman
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Rick Rogers
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Colin Barnhorst
Vista SP1 means Vista Service Pack 1. Such a thing is on the Vista roadmap
and will not appear until at least the second half of 2008. If you mean RC1
(release candidate 1) that will appear in a few months. Vista RC1 will not
be "stable" either. Vista as it is released to manufacturing (rtm) will be
stable.
You may be unaware that the term "stable" has a specific meaning with
regards to operating system releases.
and will not appear until at least the second half of 2008. If you mean RC1
(release candidate 1) that will appear in a few months. Vista RC1 will not
be "stable" either. Vista as it is released to manufacturing (rtm) will be
stable.
You may be unaware that the term "stable" has a specific meaning with
regards to operating system releases.
J
Jason
Colin,
I agree that RC1 will not be stable but I feel that it will at least be more
stable then Beta 2. RTM will be even more stable
I agree that RC1 will not be stable but I feel that it will at least be more
stable then Beta 2. RTM will be even more stable
C
Colin Barnhorst
Yes but that is at least partly subjective. That is the street definition
of stable, but leads to endless arguments because someone using Media Center
is going to yell about instability while someone using Office is going to
argue that everything is fine. Just because the things you can see have
settled down, like flip3d, doesn't mean that things you can't see, like
RRAS, are just fine too.
The only solution is to realize that for judgment of overall stability only
the rtm build can be said to be stable.
of stable, but leads to endless arguments because someone using Media Center
is going to yell about instability while someone using Office is going to
argue that everything is fine. Just because the things you can see have
settled down, like flip3d, doesn't mean that things you can't see, like
RRAS, are just fine too.
The only solution is to realize that for judgment of overall stability only
the rtm build can be said to be stable.
C
Chad Harris
I wish I could get a different color pony and puppy every day for the rest
of this year and a bigger area for them to run and play. I wish there
weren't countries with greedy rulers whose people live in squallor because
the rulers keep them there. I wish TV stations didn't resort to superficial
meaningless fear-mongering security watches with Barbie Doll anchors with
Barbie doll brains.
I wish I could have more moments like the one last week when Soledad O'Brien
asked Springsteen why musicians would voice political opinions, and
Springsteen asked her why idiots like "present company" were allowed to be
Cable morning show anchors:
I wish my country weren't resembling those countries more and more with
each passing day. I wish there were such a thing as Congressional
oversight. I wish governments wouldn't let religiosity and extreme
fundamentalist hypocrisy stand in the way of science. Maybe that's why Bill
Gates gave $400,000 to back a stem cell research initiative on the ballot
in California:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/08/25/tech/main638572.shtml
It passed:
http://www.genetics-and-society.org/resources/cgs/20041209_postelection_darnovsky.html
I promise you there will be a build a month after Beta 2. I promise you
there is one now in wide circulation numbered 5456.5. I promise you
milestones that will be given away on DVDs just like the AOL DVDs will be
coming called RC1 and RC2. But stable and functional is in the eye of the
beholder and means so many things to so many people.
I would define a degree of stability in System File Checker when it can be
run without trashing the registry and MSFT stops recommending you run it in
a meaningless fashion using the sfc /verifyonly switch.
CH
of this year and a bigger area for them to run and play. I wish there
weren't countries with greedy rulers whose people live in squallor because
the rulers keep them there. I wish TV stations didn't resort to superficial
meaningless fear-mongering security watches with Barbie Doll anchors with
Barbie doll brains.
I wish I could have more moments like the one last week when Soledad O'Brien
asked Springsteen why musicians would voice political opinions, and
Springsteen asked her why idiots like "present company" were allowed to be
Cable morning show anchors:
I wish my country weren't resembling those countries more and more with
each passing day. I wish there were such a thing as Congressional
oversight. I wish governments wouldn't let religiosity and extreme
fundamentalist hypocrisy stand in the way of science. Maybe that's why Bill
Gates gave $400,000 to back a stem cell research initiative on the ballot
in California:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/08/25/tech/main638572.shtml
It passed:
http://www.genetics-and-society.org/resources/cgs/20041209_postelection_darnovsky.html
I promise you there will be a build a month after Beta 2. I promise you
there is one now in wide circulation numbered 5456.5. I promise you
milestones that will be given away on DVDs just like the AOL DVDs will be
coming called RC1 and RC2. But stable and functional is in the eye of the
beholder and means so many things to so many people.
I would define a degree of stability in System File Checker when it can be
run without trashing the registry and MSFT stops recommending you run it in
a meaningless fashion using the sfc /verifyonly switch.
CH
C
Chad Harris
I think like the words "is" and "stable" and "Beta" can be parsed a whole
lot of ways. Beta is a relative term when it comes to MSFT software and I
think it's better to think of the builds including Vista RTM and SP1 and SP2
as less degrees of alpha.
CH
lot of ways. Beta is a relative term when it comes to MSFT software and I
think it's better to think of the builds including Vista RTM and SP1 and SP2
as less degrees of alpha.
CH
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Byron Watson
I wish CH could keep his political agenda in his pants and talk about Vista
items here.
5456 works pretty well. If you don't have an unusual driver need or need to
run unusual software, I think it is nearly good enough to be your main OS.
items here.
5456 works pretty well. If you don't have an unusual driver need or need to
run unusual software, I think it is nearly good enough to be your main OS.
C
Chad Harris
Byron--
You don't have to read any of my posts. If you have an NNTP reader you can
see the name easily and you can do a search and see that they are heavily
involved in solving Windows problems. Politically if you're in the US you're
screwed beyond comprehension. I look forward to your posts.
There are hundreds oif features you haven't begun to touch in 5456.5 that
don't work really well Byron. Therre are many you haven't heard of that do.
If you read the Vista books that are now showing up in stores and MSFT
will sell you on their websites, you I realize now that not only has MSFT
provided no documentation whatsoever on many key features of Vista 5456 and
beyond, but the Vista Beta newsgroups aren't aware of a significant number
of features that exist in Vista let alone how they work. You have a grip on
them about as well as you do with respect to what's in "my pants."
Many of us have been using Vista for production / main OS for nearly a year.
UAC doesn't deploy well enough; SFC is broken MSFT teams who own it isn't
even recommending you run it right now because it trashes the registry and
they don't know how to fix that. SR won't preserve Vista restore points on
a dual boot if you even go to the XP boot via the file path; and Eduardo
Laureano PM for SR can't or won't fix it and offers no real explanation as
to why he can't. For many people SR doesn't make points when it default is
supposed to.
Help has many items missing.
I understand perfectly your wish that a lot of topics never get discussed.
I see Americans with their heads in the sand every day.
I'm hearing Ron Susskind discuss it beautifully. "Keeping it in your pants"
is what's raises the chance of your getting blown up dramatically. If I
were a terrorist, I'd love the complancency of Americans and the clowns they
have in so-called leadership positions. They can't even get their medical
priorities straight with a surgeon as Senate Majority leader let alone
defend themselves.
BTW--my political points mainly stay at the end of my posts as a signature.
Some people like to bable in their own chosen areas. I like to make points
as to why YOUR life is in big danger.
What's the Avaian Flu plan in your state? Can't hear you. But I'll tell
you. They don't have one.
Read Ron Suskind's One Percent Doctrine--it'll open your eyes in ways
they've not begun to focus. He's on C-Span at 9PM and 7AM Eastern. Be among
the most educational insigghtful hours you spent.
http://tailrank.com/posts/562949953681489/Ron_Suskind__The_One_Percent_Doctrine
One Percent Doctrine
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/07...6157/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-8907841-8672764?ie=UTF8
CH
You don't have to read any of my posts. If you have an NNTP reader you can
see the name easily and you can do a search and see that they are heavily
involved in solving Windows problems. Politically if you're in the US you're
screwed beyond comprehension. I look forward to your posts.
There are hundreds oif features you haven't begun to touch in 5456.5 that
don't work really well Byron. Therre are many you haven't heard of that do.
If you read the Vista books that are now showing up in stores and MSFT
will sell you on their websites, you I realize now that not only has MSFT
provided no documentation whatsoever on many key features of Vista 5456 and
beyond, but the Vista Beta newsgroups aren't aware of a significant number
of features that exist in Vista let alone how they work. You have a grip on
them about as well as you do with respect to what's in "my pants."
Many of us have been using Vista for production / main OS for nearly a year.
UAC doesn't deploy well enough; SFC is broken MSFT teams who own it isn't
even recommending you run it right now because it trashes the registry and
they don't know how to fix that. SR won't preserve Vista restore points on
a dual boot if you even go to the XP boot via the file path; and Eduardo
Laureano PM for SR can't or won't fix it and offers no real explanation as
to why he can't. For many people SR doesn't make points when it default is
supposed to.
Help has many items missing.
I understand perfectly your wish that a lot of topics never get discussed.
I see Americans with their heads in the sand every day.
I'm hearing Ron Susskind discuss it beautifully. "Keeping it in your pants"
is what's raises the chance of your getting blown up dramatically. If I
were a terrorist, I'd love the complancency of Americans and the clowns they
have in so-called leadership positions. They can't even get their medical
priorities straight with a surgeon as Senate Majority leader let alone
defend themselves.
BTW--my political points mainly stay at the end of my posts as a signature.
Some people like to bable in their own chosen areas. I like to make points
as to why YOUR life is in big danger.
What's the Avaian Flu plan in your state? Can't hear you. But I'll tell
you. They don't have one.
Read Ron Suskind's One Percent Doctrine--it'll open your eyes in ways
they've not begun to focus. He's on C-Span at 9PM and 7AM Eastern. Be among
the most educational insigghtful hours you spent.
http://tailrank.com/posts/562949953681489/Ron_Suskind__The_One_Percent_Doctrine
One Percent Doctrine
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/07...6157/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-8907841-8672764?ie=UTF8
CH
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dotcom
I was wondering when that would come up.
dotcom
dotcom
Byron Watson said:
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Homer J. Simpson
I agree that RC1 will not be stable but I feel that it will at least be
As far as the Beta vs RC vs RTM stability argument goes, I'll just say two
words: Windows ME.
)
As far as the Beta vs RC vs RTM stability argument goes, I'll just say two
words: Windows ME.
)
C
Chad Harris
I can find you pictures of Billie G and Jimmy A waving to choppers carrying
Win ME that perhaps should have been shot down with its unstable mixture of
16 and 32 bit code. If you Beta tested that thing, go stand in the corner.
As far as MSFT's ability to plan, and its frequent arrogance even under
"run the trains on time" Steve Sinofsky, I'll just give you a few words--it
will show you how a lawyer like Brad Smith who thinks he's clever can run a
situation into the ground fast and cost the comapny nearly half a billion
not to mention the loss in Vista progress when 300 engineers are suddenly
pulled off their Vista deadlines:
BRUSSELS, June 30 — For nearly three months, Microsoft says, 300 of its
engineers have been working nearly nonstop to come up with the documentation
for its server software that the European Commission has sought since an
antitrust ruling in 2004. But the commission's vote on the fine, which if
assessed in full would total about 420 million euros ($527 million), may
come just before Microsoft crosses the finish line.
From the MSFT memor to employees:
One of the EU governments has leaked news that a decision on whether or not
Microsoft has complied will come in July this year – and is indeed likely to
include a fine. This non-compliance fine could total 100's of millions of
Euro for the period Microsoft is judged not to have complied and it will
come in addition to the original fine back in March 2004.
CH
Win ME that perhaps should have been shot down with its unstable mixture of
16 and 32 bit code. If you Beta tested that thing, go stand in the corner.
As far as MSFT's ability to plan, and its frequent arrogance even under
"run the trains on time" Steve Sinofsky, I'll just give you a few words--it
will show you how a lawyer like Brad Smith who thinks he's clever can run a
situation into the ground fast and cost the comapny nearly half a billion
not to mention the loss in Vista progress when 300 engineers are suddenly
pulled off their Vista deadlines:
BRUSSELS, June 30 — For nearly three months, Microsoft says, 300 of its
engineers have been working nearly nonstop to come up with the documentation
for its server software that the European Commission has sought since an
antitrust ruling in 2004. But the commission's vote on the fine, which if
assessed in full would total about 420 million euros ($527 million), may
come just before Microsoft crosses the finish line.
From the MSFT memor to employees:
One of the EU governments has leaked news that a decision on whether or not
Microsoft has complied will come in July this year – and is indeed likely to
include a fine. This non-compliance fine could total 100's of millions of
Euro for the period Microsoft is judged not to have complied and it will
come in addition to the original fine back in March 2004.
CH
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Colin Barnhorst
Wintendo.
Homer J. Simpson said:As far as the Beta vs RC vs RTM stability argument goes, I'll just say two
words: Windows ME.