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I'm depleting my current stock of 8.5x11 business stationery with an
outdated email address. I want to place a series of dashes through the old
email address and below the dashes place my new email address. I need to
place the dashes precisely on the page, like at 1.85 inches from the top.
How do I place the line of dashes this precisely on the page? Windows XP
with MS Word 2002, HP Laserjet 1100 printer. Thanks. --Jon
 
This is why there are programs like Publisher. What you are trying to do is
to make a word processor act like a desktop publishing program.
 
You can do it trial-and-error by putting the changes in a text box and
moving the text box around until it works. Of course this requires pretty
fine alignment on your printer. I'm often happy if my letters come out
looking straight on the paper!
--
Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide


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I used to be able to place text very precisely in WordPerfect--I believe the
version was 6.1. Nevertheless, I was hoping to discover a similar feature in
MS Word 2002. Thank you, and Charles. The text box suggestions works.

| This is why there are programs like Publisher. What you are trying to do
is
| to make a word processor act like a desktop publishing program.
|
| --
|
| JoAnn Paules
| MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
|
|
|
| | > I'm depleting my current stock of 8.5x11 business stationery with an
| > outdated email address. I want to place a series of dashes through the
old
| > email address and below the dashes place my new email address. I need to
| > place the dashes precisely on the page, like at 1.85 inches from the
top.
| > How do I place the line of dashes this precisely on the page? Windows XP
| > with MS Word 2002, HP Laserjet 1100 printer. Thanks. --Jon
| >
| >
|
|
 
Here is some general info on moving from Word Perfect to Word:

Word and Word Perfect work very differently from one another. Each program's
methods have strengths and weaknesses; but, if you try to use one of these
programs as if it were the other, it is like pushing on a string! You can
easily make a lot of extra work for yourself. If you are unwilling to take
the time to learn to use Word's methods, you should stick to using Word Pad.
You'll have a lot less grief, although you'll miss out on a lot of raw
power. In the (short) long term spending the time to learn Word will save
you time if you are spending any time at all (more than an hour a day) using
Word.

See http://www.addbalance.com/word/wordperfect.htm
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/General/WordVsWordPerfect.htm
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/General/TipsAndGotchas.htm
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/General/RevealCodes.htm
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/General/WordPerfectConverters.htm
http://businesssoft.about.com/compute/businesssoft/library/blconvert.htm
for information on Word for Word Perfect users.

For more:
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Customization/CreateATemplatePart2.htm
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Customization/CreateATemplatePart1.htm
http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/templates.htm
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Numbering/WordsNumberingExplained.htm
http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/styles.htm
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Customization/WhatTemplatesStore.htm


Function Keys

In Word 2000 (or later) You can get the function keys to display in a
special toolbar at the bottom of the screen if you want (something like
pressing F3 twice in WP). The following macro will do this.
Sub ShowMeFunctionKeys()
Commandbars("Function Key Display").Visible = True
End Sub

Word's Extend key (F8) gives something similar to block processing.


Formatting and Styles

Learn about Styles - really learn!
http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/styles.htm I resisted for years and now
regret every day of those years because although that string was still very
hard to push, it kept getting longer and longer, and had some very important
projects tied to it! Once you understand styles and the Word concept of
organizing things into Chinese boxes everything falls into place and instead
of pushing a string, you can push a button that turns on the very powerful
text processing machine known as Microsoft Word and it will start doing your
work for you instead of running around behind you trying to undo what you
just thought you did.


Converting documents Word / Word Perfect

Some special characters in Word Perfect documents don't convert well to
Word. There is a macro to assist with this described at
http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/wptoword.html#macroword and can be found
at http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/WPSymbolConv.bas.
This was prepared by Edward Mendelson.
Otherwise, look at the macro from http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=212396
Use these on _copies_!

As for converting documents from Word Perfect to _use_ in Word... In a word,
don't plan on it. I would not recommend using converted documents long-term.
They will be filled with formatting anomolies that will get you at the worst
time. This is especially true of any documents containing automatic
numbering or bullets. Try recreating form documents in Word using the
following process:
In Word Perfect (if you still have it, in Word if not) save your files as
text files.
Use your converted files as references to show you how you want your
formatting to look.
Create a new document in Word and insert the text from the text file. Save
this new document as a Word template. Format it the way you want using
styles, not direct formatting. Save it again.
To use a template within Word, use File => New and pick your template. This
will create a new document for you.

Merge documents have special problems and should be recreated from text
files or retyped in Word. To convert data files, consider generating labels
in WP as a document, converting that to Word, and then using
http://www.gmayor.com/convert_labels_into_mail_merge.htm to get a new Word
data file.

Note that conversions usually do create documents that look passable and
print OK; the problems I'm referring to have to do with editing / making
changes, that is, using the documents long-term. (See below on reusing
documents vs. using templates.)

Conversion back to Word Perfect: There is a problem (in addition to the ones
mentioned for conversion _to_ Word) with Version 2002 (XP) and later of
Word. The conversion file only works for conversion _to_ Word, not from Word
to Word Perfect! Earlier versions went both ways. To fix this, you need to
find the old conversion file WPFT532.CNV from a Word 97 or Word 2000
installation and copy it to your new installation, replacing the file of the
same name. Note, the change making the file one-way was done as a security
measure. While I don't know of any problems the old file causes, keep the
new installation's file somewhere as a backup just in case.


Boilerplate and Forms

In WP a lot of people use macros to hold chunks of text - boilerplate. In
Word this function is filled by Templates, AutoText and AutoCorrect, not
macros. Follow the links at
http://addbalance.com/word/wordwebresources.htm#AutoText for more
information on these tools.

You can use FILLIN and ASK fields or UserForms to query the user. For more
about online forms, follow the links at
http://addbalance.com/word/wordwebresources.htm#Forms or
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customization/FillinTheBlanks.htm especially Dian
Chapman's series of articles. You may also want to look at
http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/TblsFldsFms/LinesInForms.htm.


Reusing Documents vs. Using templates

General practice in WP is to have a document and copy and edit it to create
a new document. This is not good practice in Word. In Word, construct a
good, tight, template for your documents and use that template when
constructing new documents. Among other things, this can avoid embarrassing
"metadata" (http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/metadata.htm) and things
like surprise headers and footers from creeping into new documents.

It's a lot of reading, I know. It's OK to chunk it down and do a bit each
day, but I would recommend that you make it a top priority to do that bit
each day. In the (short) long run, it will save you both time and grief.
--

Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs which is awesome!
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Nospam said:
I used to be able to place text very precisely in WordPerfect--I believe
the
version was 6.1. Nevertheless, I was hoping to discover a similar feature
in
MS Word 2002. Thank you, and Charles. The text box suggestions works.

| This is why there are programs like Publisher. What you are trying to do
is
| to make a word processor act like a desktop publishing program.
|
| --
|
| JoAnn Paules
| MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
|
|
|
| | > I'm depleting my current stock of 8.5x11 business stationery with an
| > outdated email address. I want to place a series of dashes through the
old
| > email address and below the dashes place my new email address. I need
to
| > place the dashes precisely on the page, like at 1.85 inches from the
top.
| > How do I place the line of dashes this precisely on the page? Windows
XP
| > with MS Word 2002, HP Laserjet 1100 printer. Thanks. --Jon
| >
| >
|
|
 
You can use an { Advance } field in Word to position text with precision at
least as good as that offered by your printer.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP
 
Thanks, Doug. I'll give this a try. --Jon

| You can use an { Advance } field in Word to position text with precision
at
| least as good as that offered by your printer.
|
| --
| Hope this helps.
|
| Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
| services on a paid consulting basis.
|
| Doug Robbins - Word MVP
| | >I used to be able to place text very precisely in WordPerfect--I believe
| >the
| > version was 6.1. Nevertheless, I was hoping to discover a similar
feature
| > in
| > MS Word 2002. Thank you, and Charles. The text box suggestions works.
| >
| > | > | This is why there are programs like Publisher. What you are trying to
do
| > is
| > | to make a word processor act like a desktop publishing program.
| > |
| > | --
| > |
| > | JoAnn Paules
| > | MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | | > | > I'm depleting my current stock of 8.5x11 business stationery with an
| > | > outdated email address. I want to place a series of dashes through
the
| > old
| > | > email address and below the dashes place my new email address. I
need
| > to
| > | > place the dashes precisely on the page, like at 1.85 inches from the
| > top.
| > | > How do I place the line of dashes this precisely on the page?
Windows
| > XP
| > | > with MS Word 2002, HP Laserjet 1100 printer. Thanks. --Jon
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
Note, however, that the ADVANCE field is provided by MS only for
compatibility with WordPerfect and is not very user friendly (all dimensions
must be entered in points).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

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I definitely do not use it just for compatibility with WordPerfect and
points are fine with me - much better than inches.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP
Suzanne S. Barnhill said:
Note, however, that the ADVANCE field is provided by MS only for
compatibility with WordPerfect and is not very user friendly (all
dimensions
must be entered in points).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

Nospam said:
Thanks, Doug. I'll give this a try. --Jon

| You can use an { Advance } field in Word to position text with
precision
at
| least as good as that offered by your printer.
|
| --
| Hope this helps.
|
| Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
| services on a paid consulting basis.
|
| Doug Robbins - Word MVP
| | >I used to be able to place text very precisely in WordPerfect--I believe
| >the
| > version was 6.1. Nevertheless, I was hoping to discover a similar
feature
| > in
| > MS Word 2002. Thank you, and Charles. The text box suggestions works.
| >
| > | > | This is why there are programs like Publisher. What you are trying to
do
| > is
| > | to make a word processor act like a desktop publishing program.
| > |
| > | --
| > |
| > | JoAnn Paules
| > | MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | | > | > I'm depleting my current stock of 8.5x11 business stationery with an
| > | > outdated email address. I want to place a series of dashes
through
the
| > old
| > | > email address and below the dashes place my new email address. I
need
| > to
| > | > place the dashes precisely on the page, like at 1.85 inches from the
| > top.
| > | > How do I place the line of dashes this precisely on the page?
Windows
| > XP
| > | > with MS Word 2002, HP Laserjet 1100 printer. Thanks. --Jon
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
I posted the original message. I'm comfortable working in point sizes or
fractions of inches. Nevertheless, the text box idea worked for me after
fiddling with its placement a bit. I'm going to try the ADVANCE field idea,
though, just to see how it would work--and if I can place the text in the
exact same spot.

|I definitely do not use it just for compatibility with WordPerfect and
| points are fine with me - much better than inches.
|
| --
| Hope this helps.
|
| Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
| services on a paid consulting basis.
|
| Doug Robbins - Word MVP
| | > Note, however, that the ADVANCE field is provided by MS only for
| > compatibility with WordPerfect and is not very user friendly (all
| > dimensions
| > must be entered in points).
| >
| > --
| > Suzanne S. Barnhill
| > Microsoft MVP (Word)
| > Words into Type
| > Fairhope, Alabama USA
|
| > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
| > so
| > all may benefit.
| >
| > | >> Thanks, Doug. I'll give this a try. --Jon
| >>
| >> | >> | You can use an { Advance } field in Word to position text with
| >> precision
| >> at
| >> | least as good as that offered by your printer.
| >> |
| >> | --
| >> | Hope this helps.
| >> |
| >> | Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
| >> | services on a paid consulting basis.
| >> |
| >> | Doug Robbins - Word MVP
| >> | | >> | >I used to be able to place text very precisely in WordPerfect--I
| > believe
| >> | >the
| >> | > version was 6.1. Nevertheless, I was hoping to discover a similar
| >> feature
| >> | > in
| >> | > MS Word 2002. Thank you, and Charles. The text box suggestions
works.
| >> | >
| >> | > | >> | > | This is why there are programs like Publisher. What you are
trying
| > to
| >> do
| >> | > is
| >> | > | to make a word processor act like a desktop publishing program.
| >> | > |
| >> | > | --
| >> | > |
| >> | > | JoAnn Paules
| >> | > | MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
| >> | > |
| >> | > |
| >> | > |
| >> | > | | >> | > | > I'm depleting my current stock of 8.5x11 business stationery
with
| > an
| >> | > | > outdated email address. I want to place a series of dashes
| >> through
| >> the
| >> | > old
| >> | > | > email address and below the dashes place my new email address.
I
| >> need
| >> | > to
| >> | > | > place the dashes precisely on the page, like at 1.85 inches
from
| > the
| >> | > top.
| >> | > | > How do I place the line of dashes this precisely on the page?
| >> Windows
| >> | > XP
| >> | > | > with MS Word 2002, HP Laserjet 1100 printer. Thanks. --Jon
| >> | > | >
| >> | > | >
| >> | > |
| >> | > |
| >> | >
| >> | >
| >> |
| >> |
| >>
| >>
| >
|
|
 
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