Spam Filters?

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I've been using Spambayes for quite some time. I use
Outlook XP and have no choice in that.

I find that Spambayes occasionally takes a totally "valid"
piece of mail and puts it in either the suspects folder or
worse, in the junk-e-mail folder. I examine the Spambaye's
assessment and I see how they got there but I've missed a
couple of impt. pieces of mail.

Is there spam software that uses a bayesian filter and also
allows you to set some parameters? For example, I would
like to set a parameter that says all mail from (e-mail address removed)
is always put in the inbox.

Suggestions?

BTW, I didn't know where else to post this and I apologize
if this isn't the proper NG for it.

Louise
 
I've been using Spambayes for quite some time. I use
Outlook XP and have no choice in that.

I find that Spambayes occasionally takes a totally "valid"
piece of mail and puts it in either the suspects folder or
worse, in the junk-e-mail folder. I examine the Spambaye's
assessment and I see how they got there but I've missed a
couple of impt. pieces of mail.

Is there spam software that uses a bayesian filter and also
allows you to set some parameters? For example, I would
like to set a parameter that says all mail from (e-mail address removed)
is always put in the inbox.

Suggestions?
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Have a look at POPFile

http://popfile.sourceforge.net/

It has "Magnets" to do that.

Vito (a happy POPFile user)
 
louise, 12/30/2005, 9:09:05 AM,
I've been using Spambayes for quite some time. I use Outlook XP and
have no choice in that.

I find that Spambayes occasionally takes a totally "valid" piece of
mail and puts it in either the suspects folder or worse, in the
junk-e-mail folder. I examine the Spambaye's assessment and I see
how they got there but I've missed a couple of impt. pieces of mail.

Is there spam software that uses a bayesian filter and also allows
you to set some parameters? For example, I would like to set a
parameter that says all mail from (e-mail address removed) is always put in the
inbox.

Suggestions?

BTW, I didn't know where else to post this and I apologize if this
isn't the proper NG for it.

Louise
Click to expand...

I use K9 and love it. It allows white and black lists that you can
create yourself if necessary.
http://keir.net/k9.html
 
louise said:
I've been using Spambayes for quite some time. I use Outlook XP and have
no choice in that.

I find that Spambayes occasionally takes a totally "valid" piece of mail
and puts it in either the suspects folder or worse, in the junk-e-mail
folder. I examine the Spambaye's assessment and I see how they got there
but I've missed a couple of impt. pieces of mail.

Is there spam software that uses a bayesian filter and also allows you to
set some parameters? For example, I would like to set a parameter that
says all mail from (e-mail address removed) is always put in the inbox.
Click to expand...

I believe SpamBayes can be ran as a proxy rather than using it as an Outlook
plug-in. That means SpamBayes can only tag the suspect mails. What you do
with those tagged mails once delivered to your e-mail client depends on the
rules you define and their order. Define a whitelist rule and place before
the rule that handles the spam-tagged mails.

You might also want to look at SpamPal (http://www.spampal.org). It has a
Bayesian plug-in which is configurable (I haven't used the SpamBayes plug-in
or proxy to know how configurable it is). SpamPal works with all POP3/SMTP
compliant e-mail clients. It tags the suspect mails and then you decide
what to do with them using rules in your e-mail client.
Suggestions?

BTW, I didn't know where else to post this and I apologize if this isn't
the proper NG for it.
Click to expand...

alt.spam

I couldn't find a forum for SpamBayes. SpamPal has an active forum that is
monitored by the program and plug-in authors.
 
Vanguard said:
I believe SpamBayes can be ran as a proxy rather than using it as an
Outlook plug-in. That means SpamBayes can only tag the suspect mails.
What you do with those tagged mails once delivered to your e-mail client
depends on the rules you define and their order. Define a whitelist
rule and place before the rule that handles the spam-tagged mails.

You might also want to look at SpamPal (http://www.spampal.org). It has
a Bayesian plug-in which is configurable (I haven't used the SpamBayes
plug-in or proxy to know how configurable it is). SpamPal works with
all POP3/SMTP compliant e-mail clients. It tags the suspect mails and
then you decide what to do with them using rules in your e-mail client.



alt.spam

I couldn't find a forum for SpamBayes. SpamPal has an active forum that
is monitored by the program and plug-in authors.
Click to expand...

Thanks for your suggestions.

Funny, each of the suggested programs requires that you
change your POP3 settings.

Somehow, Spambayes does not require this - it has some kind
of Outlook plug-in and it "sorts" the mail AFTER it arrives
in the Outlook inbox. So, at first, all mail is in the
Inbox - but within a few seconds, Spambayes removes what it
considers to be spam and places it in either the junk email
folder or the suspects folder.

I feel uncomfortable changing my POP3 settings - is there
any reason to be concerned?

TIA

Louise
 
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Funny, each of the suggested programs requires that you
change your POP3 settings.

Somehow, Spambayes does not require this - it has some kind
of Outlook plug-in and it "sorts" the mail AFTER it arrives
in the Outlook inbox. So, at first, all mail is in the
Inbox - but within a few seconds, Spambayes removes what it
considers to be spam and places it in either the junk email
folder or the suspects folder.

I feel uncomfortable changing my POP3 settings - is there
any reason to be concerned?
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I don't think so. The programs usually include detailed instructions on how
to change your POP3 settings, just make sure you write down your present
settings _before_ you change them, then you can go back easily to the old
settings in case something goes wrong or you do not like the new program.

Vito
 
louise said:
Thanks for your suggestions.

Funny, each of the suggested programs requires that you change your
POP3 settings.

Somehow, Spambayes does not require this - it has some kind of
Outlook plug-in and it "sorts" the mail AFTER it arrives in the
Outlook inbox. So, at first, all mail is in the Inbox - but within a
few seconds, Spambayes removes what it considers to be spam and
places it in either the junk email folder or the suspects folder.

I feel uncomfortable changing my POP3 settings - is there any reason
to be concerned?

TIA

Louise
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K9 will change your settings automatically during installation or put
them back during uninstallation.
 
louise said:
I've been using Spambayes for quite some time. I use Outlook XP and
have no choice in that.

I find that Spambayes occasionally takes a totally "valid" piece of mail
and puts it in either the suspects folder or worse, in the junk-e-mail
folder. I examine the Spambaye's assessment and I see how they got
there but I've missed a couple of impt. pieces of mail.
Click to expand...

This is a very important issue! A spam filter should filter unwanted
email and not generate false positives. If you are noticing legitimate
email is getting stopped more than it should (more than 1 in every 100)
then your spam filter is causing more problems then it is solving and is
impratcical!

My suggestion is to wipe the existing antispam database and re-train it.
Unfortunately the sourforge version of spambayes doesn't include a
whitelist (to my knowledge) where certain email addresses are excluded
from filtering.

--

Ian Kenefick
Email: (e-mail address removed)
Web: http://www.ik-cs.com
Blog: http://www.ik-cs.com/blogger
 
Ian said:
This is a very important issue! A spam filter should filter unwanted
email and not generate false positives. If you are noticing legitimate
email is getting stopped more than it should (more than 1 in every 100)
then your spam filter is causing more problems then it is solving and is
impratcical!

My suggestion is to wipe the existing antispam database and re-train it.
Unfortunately the sourforge version of spambayes doesn't include a
whitelist (to my knowledge) where certain email addresses are excluded
from filtering.
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thanks for all your responses. I think I'll begin by wiping
the Spambayes database and if that doesn't work, I'll move
to K9.

Louise
 
louise said:
thanks for all your responses. I think I'll begin by wiping the
Spambayes database and if that doesn't work, I'll move to K9.

Louise
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K9 was very hard to install and I didslike having to adjust
my regualr email setting. Could you just see me exapling
inis to RR? But really, I wanted something less intrusive
and perhaps a bit more fuser friendly.

Haveing seen Spam Bully highly rated on Tucows - I went for
the trial version,, I'm tremendously impressed. You can
choose Bayesian, and/or rbs filtering.. You can edit the
allow and block lists. Of course you can read the headers on
which decisions were made.

Tech support answered me overnight. \

Louise
 
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