SP2 Problem

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CanWEBada

I recently upgraded to Service Pack 2 and for some reason when I go to the
Control Panel,

Then I click on Performance and Maintenance I no longer have access to
Adminstrative Tools all I hear is a click

then nothing else happens.

And then in my system tray the Window Security Alerts Icon says that

Automatic Updates is turned Off and I'm unable to set it to turn on cause

its greyed out where do I go from here ?

HELP !!!!!!!
 
Hello canweb ,
Can you open system restore? If so, try to restore to a point
before you installed SP2. If that works great. Did you run a virus\ spyware
check prior to SP2 install? If not you most likely have some sort of virus or
mailware. If the system restore works. Go back to it turn it off. Then run a
virus\spyware check with system restore turned off. Venders advise at least
three checks in safe mode don't be in a hurry.
If that dosen't fix it time for plan B . Unistall SP2, update all
your drivers at your PC makers website then after you have checked and
rechecked for any spyware and virus reinstall SP2. The virus\spy check is
very important. One peice of spyware will ruin the install. It takes time
a a few restarts so again take your time. Go back to Microsoft.com after
every restart untill SP2 and all security patches\ hotfixes are installed
and MS says you have been updated. Heres is a hint.....
If Windows Security Shield is not in your control panel SP2 did not
load.
Best of luck to you... let me know if things
improve
Ron J
 
Are you following the right sequence to get to Administrative Tools?

I can get there by:

1. Start, Administrative Tools.

2. Start, Control Panel, Administrative Tools.

3. Start, All Programs, Administrative Tools.

Performance and Maintenance is a collection of advice in Help and
Support. Not part of the route to Administrative Tools.


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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Setting a restore point before installation of SP2 is not a good idea. SP2
involved substantial recompilation of a good bit of the OS.
 
Why is setting the pre-SP2 restore point not a good idea?
It sounded like one of those things I wished I'd thought of in case I needed
it.
Please clarify?

Pop



Colin Barnhorst said:
Setting a restore point before installation of SP2 is not a good idea.
SP2 involved substantial recompilation of a good bit of the OS.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Ron J said:
Hello canweb ,
Can you open system restore? If so, try to restore to a point
before you installed SP2. If that works great. Did you run a virus\
spyware
check prior to SP2 install? If not you most likely have some sort of
virus or
mailware. If the system restore works. Go back to it turn it off. Then
run a
virus\spyware check with system restore turned off. Venders advise at
least
three checks in safe mode don't be in a hurry.
If that dosen't fix it time for plan B . Unistall SP2, update all
your drivers at your PC makers website then after you have checked and
rechecked for any spyware and virus reinstall SP2. The virus\spy check
is
very important. One peice of spyware will ruin the install. It takes
time
a a few restarts so again take your time. Go back to Microsoft.com
after
every restart untill SP2 and all security patches\ hotfixes are
installed
and MS says you have been updated. Heres is a hint.....
If Windows Security Shield is not in your control panel SP2 did not
load.
Best of luck to you... let me know if things
improve
Ron J
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According to some of the videos on Channel 9 (the Microsoft Channel 9) about
SP2, SP2 is a lot more than patches, fixes, and enhancements. It is a
recompilation of most of the OS. One of the more important changes leading
to recompilation was to make the OS Data Execution Prevention aware.

I suspect the reason the folks in Product Support Services whom I have
talked to have warned about using System Restore this way is that
parameterization has probably changed for some system files between SP1 and
SP2. Going back to settings and tables that were built by XP SP1 without
uninstalling SP2 first is a recipe for problems. That is just my
speculation about why they warn against it. Off the cuff, they say that it
is possible that it will work out but pretty risky.

I might take a chance myself, but, knowing what I know, suggesting to
someone in a newgroup that he try it is something else again.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Pop said:
Why is setting the pre-SP2 restore point not a good idea?
It sounded like one of those things I wished I'd thought of in case I
needed it.
Please clarify?

Pop



Colin Barnhorst said:
Setting a restore point before installation of SP2 is not a good idea.
SP2 involved substantial recompilation of a good bit of the OS.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Ron J said:
Hello canweb ,
Can you open system restore? If so, try to restore to a point
before you installed SP2. If that works great. Did you run a virus\
spyware
check prior to SP2 install? If not you most likely have some sort of
virus or
mailware. If the system restore works. Go back to it turn it off. Then
run a
virus\spyware check with system restore turned off. Venders advise at
least
three checks in safe mode don't be in a hurry.
If that dosen't fix it time for plan B . Unistall SP2, update all
your drivers at your PC makers website then after you have checked and
rechecked for any spyware and virus reinstall SP2. The virus\spy check
is
very important. One peice of spyware will ruin the install. It takes
time
a a few restarts so again take your time. Go back to Microsoft.com
after
every restart untill SP2 and all security patches\ hotfixes are
installed
and MS says you have been updated. Heres is a hint.....
If Windows Security Shield is not in your control panel SP2 did
not
load.
Best of luck to you... let me know if things
improve
Ron J



correctley "CanWEBada" wrote:
I recently upgraded to Service Pack 2 and for some reason when I go to
the
Control Panel,

Then I click on Performance and Maintenance I no longer have access to
Adminstrative Tools all I hear is a click

then nothing else happens.

And then in my system tray the Window Security Alerts Icon says that

Automatic Updates is turned Off and I'm unable to set it to turn on
cause

its greyed out where do I go from here ?

HELP !!!!!!!
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Colin

Ron suggested uninstalling SP2 as well, which also seemed way over the
top. It is not at all clear exactly what problem CanWEBada was
experiencing.

--


Regards.

Gerry

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Colin Barnhorst said:
According to some of the videos on Channel 9 (the Microsoft Channel 9)
about SP2, SP2 is a lot more than patches, fixes, and enhancements.
It is a recompilation of most of the OS. One of the more important
changes leading to recompilation was to make the OS Data Execution
Prevention aware.

I suspect the reason the folks in Product Support Services whom I have
talked to have warned about using System Restore this way is that
parameterization has probably changed for some system files between
SP1 and SP2. Going back to settings and tables that were built by XP
SP1 without uninstalling SP2 first is a recipe for problems. That is
just my speculation about why they warn against it. Off the cuff,
they say that it is possible that it will work out but pretty risky.

I might take a chance myself, but, knowing what I know, suggesting to
someone in a newgroup that he try it is something else again.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Pop said:
Why is setting the pre-SP2 restore point not a good idea?
It sounded like one of those things I wished I'd thought of in case I
needed it.
Please clarify?

Pop



Colin Barnhorst said:
Setting a restore point before installation of SP2 is not a good
idea. SP2 involved substantial recompilation of a good bit of the
OS.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Hello canweb ,
Can you open system restore? If so, try to restore to a
point
before you installed SP2. If that works great. Did you run a
virus\ spyware
check prior to SP2 install? If not you most likely have some sort
of virus or
mailware. If the system restore works. Go back to it turn it off.
Then run a
virus\spyware check with system restore turned off. Venders advise
at least
three checks in safe mode don't be in a hurry.
If that dosen't fix it time for plan B . Unistall SP2,
update all
your drivers at your PC makers website then after you have
checked and
rechecked for any spyware and virus reinstall SP2. The virus\spy
check is
very important. One peice of spyware will ruin the install. It
takes time
a a few restarts so again take your time. Go back to
Microsoft.com after
every restart untill SP2 and all security patches\ hotfixes are
installed
and MS says you have been updated. Heres is a hint.....
If Windows Security Shield is not in your control panel SP2
did not
load.
Best of luck to you... let me know if
things
improve
Ron J



correctley "CanWEBada" wrote:
I recently upgraded to Service Pack 2 and for some reason when I
go to the
Control Panel,

Then I click on Performance and Maintenance I no longer have
access to
Adminstrative Tools all I hear is a click

then nothing else happens.

And then in my system tray the Window Security Alerts Icon says
that

Automatic Updates is turned Off and I'm unable to set it to turn
on cause

its greyed out where do I go from here ?

HELP !!!!!!!
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
I am not recommeding uninstalling SP2. I am just recommending against
restoring to a point before installation of SP2 without first uninstalling
SP2. It is not clear to me System Restore ought to be a solution here, but
if it is, take care concerning crossing the service pack break. I was
responding to a Reply, not the OP.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Gerry Cornell said:
Colin

Ron suggested uninstalling SP2 as well, which also seemed way over the
top. It is not at all clear exactly what problem CanWEBada was
experiencing.

--


Regards.

Gerry

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Colin Barnhorst said:
According to some of the videos on Channel 9 (the Microsoft Channel 9)
about SP2, SP2 is a lot more than patches, fixes, and enhancements. It is
a recompilation of most of the OS. One of the more important changes
leading to recompilation was to make the OS Data Execution Prevention
aware.

I suspect the reason the folks in Product Support Services whom I have
talked to have warned about using System Restore this way is that
parameterization has probably changed for some system files between SP1
and SP2. Going back to settings and tables that were built by XP SP1
without uninstalling SP2 first is a recipe for problems. That is just my
speculation about why they warn against it. Off the cuff, they say that
it is possible that it will work out but pretty risky.

I might take a chance myself, but, knowing what I know, suggesting to
someone in a newgroup that he try it is something else again.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Pop said:
Why is setting the pre-SP2 restore point not a good idea?
It sounded like one of those things I wished I'd thought of in case I
needed it.
Please clarify?

Pop



Setting a restore point before installation of SP2 is not a good idea.
SP2 involved substantial recompilation of a good bit of the OS.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Hello canweb ,
Can you open system restore? If so, try to restore to a point
before you installed SP2. If that works great. Did you run a virus\
spyware
check prior to SP2 install? If not you most likely have some sort of
virus or
mailware. If the system restore works. Go back to it turn it off. Then
run a
virus\spyware check with system restore turned off. Venders advise at
least
three checks in safe mode don't be in a hurry.
If that dosen't fix it time for plan B . Unistall SP2, update all
your drivers at your PC makers website then after you have checked
and
rechecked for any spyware and virus reinstall SP2. The virus\spy
check is
very important. One peice of spyware will ruin the install. It
takes time
a a few restarts so again take your time. Go back to Microsoft.com
after
every restart untill SP2 and all security patches\ hotfixes are
installed
and MS says you have been updated. Heres is a hint.....
If Windows Security Shield is not in your control panel SP2 did
not
load.
Best of luck to you... let me know if things
improve
Ron J



correctley "CanWEBada" wrote:
I recently upgraded to Service Pack 2 and for some reason when I go
to the
Control Panel,

Then I click on Performance and Maintenance I no longer have access
to
Adminstrative Tools all I hear is a click

then nothing else happens.

And then in my system tray the Window Security Alerts Icon says that

Automatic Updates is turned Off and I'm unable to set it to turn on
cause

its greyed out where do I go from here ?

HELP !!!!!!!
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Colin

"I was responding to a Reply, not the OP."

I did appreciate that.

--


Regards.

Gerry

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



Colin Barnhorst said:
I am not recommeding uninstalling SP2. I am just recommending against
restoring to a point before installation of SP2 without first
uninstalling SP2. It is not clear to me System Restore ought to be a
solution here, but if it is, take care concerning crossing the service
pack break. I was responding to a Reply, not the OP.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Gerry Cornell said:
Colin

Ron suggested uninstalling SP2 as well, which also seemed way over
the top. It is not at all clear exactly what problem CanWEBada was
experiencing.

--


Regards.

Gerry

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Colin Barnhorst said:
According to some of the videos on Channel 9 (the Microsoft Channel
9) about SP2, SP2 is a lot more than patches, fixes, and
enhancements. It is a recompilation of most of the OS. One of the
more important changes leading to recompilation was to make the OS
Data Execution Prevention aware.

I suspect the reason the folks in Product Support Services whom I
have talked to have warned about using System Restore this way is
that parameterization has probably changed for some system files
between SP1 and SP2. Going back to settings and tables that were
built by XP SP1 without uninstalling SP2 first is a recipe for
problems. That is just my speculation about why they warn against
it. Off the cuff, they say that it is possible that it will work
out but pretty risky.

I might take a chance myself, but, knowing what I know, suggesting
to someone in a newgroup that he try it is something else again.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Why is setting the pre-SP2 restore point not a good idea?
It sounded like one of those things I wished I'd thought of in case
I needed it.
Please clarify?

Pop



Setting a restore point before installation of SP2 is not a good
idea. SP2 involved substantial recompilation of a good bit of the
OS.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Hello canweb ,
Can you open system restore? If so, try to restore to a
point
before you installed SP2. If that works great. Did you run a
virus\ spyware
check prior to SP2 install? If not you most likely have some sort
of virus or
mailware. If the system restore works. Go back to it turn it off.
Then run a
virus\spyware check with system restore turned off. Venders
advise at least
three checks in safe mode don't be in a hurry.
If that dosen't fix it time for plan B . Unistall SP2,
update all
your drivers at your PC makers website then after you have
checked and
rechecked for any spyware and virus reinstall SP2. The
virus\spy check is
very important. One peice of spyware will ruin the install. It
takes time
a a few restarts so again take your time. Go back to
Microsoft.com after
every restart untill SP2 and all security patches\ hotfixes are
installed
and MS says you have been updated. Heres is a hint.....
If Windows Security Shield is not in your control panel SP2
did not
load.
Best of luck to you... let me know if
things
improve
Ron J



correctley "CanWEBada" wrote:
I recently upgraded to Service Pack 2 and for some reason when I
go to the
Control Panel,

Then I click on Performance and Maintenance I no longer have
access to
Adminstrative Tools all I hear is a click

then nothing else happens.

And then in my system tray the Window Security Alerts Icon says
that

Automatic Updates is turned Off and I'm unable to set it to turn
on cause

its greyed out where do I go from here ?

HELP !!!!!!!
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