Sorry Dupe post ...RE:Dual Boot Vista on external drives....

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I read in the news, this past January that MSFT was not going to support XP
after June 30, 2008. I don't remember the extent of support downsize. My
concern was that I wanted to be ready and updated and have a current
supported system in place. I'd like to make it all easier and get a new
computer but I'm saving for my first LCD 1080p HDTV, maybe two. They're both
old and I like to update technology. Technology is just like chemistry, they
both make life easier. I like having the latest gadgets, especially if helps
organize my life. I got my computer 2 1/2 years ago and passes the vista
upgrade test. I have a HP Media Center PC, Pentium D (dual), and a decent and
adequate graphics card. I souped it up to 3.5GB RAM and added a PCI slot for
SATA connection. I added the SATA connection because I had just purchased a
750GB external hard drive. I got it for storage and back up. It came
formatted as FAT32. I don't know why. I even know it’s an old format from the
80's, and not as secure and fast as NTSF the preferred (required?) OS format.
I reformatted it to NTSF and I do have it connected by the SATA connections.
That much I knew to do in order for the OS to work, from my research. At the
time I did not know I could do a dual boot install. I found that out on HP's
site. So I thought that would be the best choice for me, in case Vista did
not work out. It made me feel a lot better about the transition. As I started
to do the dual set up, I saw my new external drive there, on my desk, with
all that room and thought, why not see what happens?????! I installed Vista
on it rather on the main C: drive. Why risk losing both, should C:\ crash and
burn. It’s been a little rocky, I have to say. And for some unknown to me
reason, if I update the SATA PCI driver to a newer version, it won’t read the
disk. I had a setback figuring out how to reinstall the older driver that
came with the SATA PCI CD. Booting is a breeze, the Bios give me a choice at
start up. I like Vista, now that the serious, initial
installation stuff is behind me. Microsoft was very helpful. I had two cases
open. They called me to check on the problem before they closed the case! I
was totally caught off guard. I still lose my connection when I connect
through my router. I need to settle that soon.

My never ending anxiety is this. Did I do the right thing? Is my external
drive sturdy enough to handle the rigors of the Operating System drive? The
tech guys, at the stores, said it could not be done. Western Digital said it
could be not done. I went ahead and tried and it DID work. But I did not
believe them and it’s all going to fail. Back up is my new religion. Were
they right? Is this a high risk set-up? Does anyone have any thoughts about
this? The external drive is Western Digital MY Book Home Edition, 750GB with
USB, FireWire and SATA connections. There were not many with all three
connection choices on the shelf. I wanted Seagate. The RAID PCI slot I
installed is 1.50mbs. I had no available PCI express slot available that
would have given it 3mbs. (I think I have the standards right, if not, I bet
most who know understand.)The graphics card is installed there, the only one.
I was at the limit with graphics for the Vista Aero feature. I bought another
external hard drive, 1TB!, to back it all up, since that was the original
plan anyway. I'm in the planning stage to set up a RAID 1 with the two
external drives. I've played with the set up to start it but don't know
enough to actually go through with it the RAID 1. I don't know if it should
be mirrored or the other type RAID 1 set up. I can't remember the other RAID
1 name right now. I just want to get this post submitted. I think I have
covered the basics. It’s nice having the systems side by side. There are a
few peculiarities. Like the System Information won't display. It says I don't
have windows management instrumentation software… installed. I tried to link
it with the CPU and had no luck. Can anyone tell me if I'm on the right track
or head for a train wreck? And if anyone knows which RAID is best for speed.
My files consist of music, photography, lots of documents. Over 170 GB and
growing as I download bank statements and add more pictures and movies from
media center. Any help or suggestions, warning or assurances would be met
would great appreciation.

Thanks for taking the time to participate. Computing is a full time job.
joe
 
Thank you Colin…. I’ve noticed that my restore points have gone missing. I
was aware of it at the start and did not know what to do. I thought it was
the beginning of a mounting problem or a first indication that I may be
heading for trouble with this developing setup project. Your +assurance
strengthens my confidence. Thank you, man! <what was that?> I have been
trying to address that issue, doing web searches, since day 1. Manual restore
points were just disappearing. It is scary.

If I may, and if you are willing to answer, I’d like to pose a related
question. After I review the information on the support link you tipped me
off to (thank you, man.), I expect the issue closed…. I hope. I have been
backing up every day since I discovered that restore was inactive. I have all
my data files+ on my second new external disk. When I execute my RAID 1
mirror, between new external 1 and new external 2 with eSATA connectivity,
will the restore points be compatible with RAID 1? I suspect it would make
restore faster and easier, with reduced time factored in from the RAID. But
now I’m not sure what to do with the backup files. Will RAID wipe them off
when started or can I isolate the files on the disk, like a partition? I just
had a funny thought. I may just get a new third storage drive just for old
fashioned drop and drag backup, as I first intended!! I started this project
with a storage plan. Now, I feel like I could launch the space shuttle from
my desk top!!

One always thinks the challenges one faces are unique predicaments. Can you
relate? The set up, research and due diligence, per se, is so time consuming.
I appreciate the your
input/output.

EnJoy.


Colin Barnhorst said:
Not true. XP will be withdrawn from retail sales on that date, that's all.
XP remains in mainstream support until April of 2009 and extended support
until April of 2014.

Vista requires NTFS for the system volume but can read and write FAT32.

Since the external drive is connected by an eSATA connection you can boot
Vista safely from it. I have been doing so on my test box since 2005
(during the techbeta program). Both the x86 and x64 versions boot that way
on my test box.

Be aware that unless you hide the Vista volume from XP, XP will wipe out
your recovery options (system restore points, shadow copies, backups made
with the Vista Backup and Restore Center, etc) every time you boot into XP.
You should follow the instructions in http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926185
to prevent this.

I have attached a step by step implementation of kb926185 as an example.
 
I don't see why restore points wouldn't be just fine under Raid, but I am
not a Raid user. I have to defer to someone knowledgeable with Raid to
answer your questions. How will the Raid 1 volume appear in My Computer in
XP?

JoeRazzle said:
Thank you Colin…. I’ve noticed that my restore points have gone missing. I
was aware of it at the start and did not know what to do. I thought it was
the beginning of a mounting problem or a first indication that I may be
heading for trouble with this developing setup project. Your +assurance
strengthens my confidence. Thank you, man! <what was that?> I have been
trying to address that issue, doing web searches, since day 1. Manual
restore
points were just disappearing. It is scary.

If I may, and if you are willing to answer, I’d like to pose a related
question. After I review the information on the support link you tipped me
off to (thank you, man.), I expect the issue closed…. I hope. I have been
backing up every day since I discovered that restore was inactive. I have
all
my data files+ on my second new external disk. When I execute my RAID 1
mirror, between new external 1 and new external 2 with eSATA connectivity,
will the restore points be compatible with RAID 1? I suspect it would make
restore faster and easier, with reduced time factored in from the RAID.
But
now I’m not sure what to do with the backup files. Will RAID wipe them off
when started or can I isolate the files on the disk, like a partition? I
just
had a funny thought. I may just get a new third storage drive just for old
fashioned drop and drag backup, as I first intended!! I started this
project
with a storage plan. Now, I feel like I could launch the space shuttle
from
my desk top!!

One always thinks the challenges one faces are unique predicaments. Can
you
relate? The set up, research and due diligence, per se, is so time
consuming.
I appreciate the your
input/output.

EnJoy.
 
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