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Checking some of the posts in this group, looks like a chat room.
Average home user may be SOL with VISTA.
 
SD said:
Checking some of the posts in this group, looks like a chat room.
Average home user may be SOL with VISTA.
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If you think it's bad now, wait until February.

Alias
 
The average home user never goes into newsgroups and doesn't know they even
exist.

Even so, if anyone searches for a specific topic and the answer they need
exists, they'll find it. If they don't search and they post their question,
the experts will answer it.

Once it has been answered and the thread is no longer needed to respond to
the OP, the rest of us will use the thread for talking about DRM, Apple, and
Ubuntu. That's called recycling. We're preventing
global-newsgroup-warming.

Dale
 
I thought you were referring to the missing SOL run command shortcut for
Solitaire.
 
Dale said:
The average home user never goes into newsgroups and doesn't know they
even exist.

Even so, if anyone searches for a specific topic and the answer they need
exists, they'll find it. If they don't search and they post their
question, the experts will answer it.

Once it has been answered and the thread is no longer needed to respond to
the OP, the rest of us will use the thread for talking about DRM, Apple,
and Ubuntu. That's called recycling. We're preventing
global-newsgroup-warming.

Dale
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I disagree with your first and second paragraph, and totally agree with your
third one. :)

There are average home users, such as myself, who do come to the public
newsgroups to see if anyone needs help. And average home users who ask
questions here. These newsgroups are better known than you'd suspect.

That said, those of us who do come to see if we can help, periodically get
frustrated because the newsgroup is more like a chat room than a newsgroup
for helping and getting help. But we manage as best we can.

It would be nice if we could all stick to the topic of the newsgroup, but
I'm no cyber cop, and won't even go there!
 
I should think, Dale, that with Windows Mail having the MS Communities
included by default, that home user traffic for Vista support will be quite
significant. In the past, the Win9x users new to computing had to discover
nntp, or they'd never even know this avenue existed. Now, with inclusion by
default and communities being plastered all over MS's support pages, it's
not too hard to find.

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
You are certainly not an average home user! I suspect that you were never
an average user. You took the trouble to find answers when you needed them
and then you stuck around to share that knowledge with others. Your MVP
award proves you were never average and that probably applies to things
besides the PC.

Dale
 
Ok, sure. I'll go along with that. But now I want to know how to install
Ubuntu in a virtual machine within Vista running on my Mac so I can play AAC
protected files on Ubuntu. Huh? Can you help me with that one? <grin>.

Dale
 
LOL

<g> Actually, if you can get Vista installed on the new Mac hardware.....
<g>

I think what will be scary is all the new users that'll be here. The
experienced at least know how to search or phrase the question and give
system information. The newbie questions, of which there will be many, will
be along the lines of "it's broke, how do I fix it?" or "How do I make it do
what it's not designed to do?". Then there's always "Why doesn't the scanner
from my Win95 system work?"

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
Dale said:
The average home user never goes into newsgroups and doesn't know they
even exist.

Even so, if anyone searches for a specific topic and the answer they
need exists, they'll find it. If they don't search and they post their
question, the experts will answer it.

Once it has been answered and the thread is no longer needed to respond
to the OP, the rest of us will use the thread for talking about DRM,
Apple, and Ubuntu. That's called recycling. We're preventing
global-newsgroup-warming.
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I thought some of these NGs got pretty warm:-P.
 
You make a great point, Dale. MSFT does very little to promote that the
newsgroups (considering the efforts some people tireless put in on them) can
fix a significant number of their problems, although they are doing a more
via their websites. I would hope that given that Win Mail allows them to
download NNTP groups with a click instead of the arduous 15 or less second
wizard clicks and quick fill in of two boxes and your name and email address
that OE requires, that more people will find and use them.

It would be great if more people knew about the groups and MSFT could remedy
this by parking a small box permanatly on their home page--I mean
www.microsoft.com , and the vista home page for general use and the Vista
Help and Support link or similar website for help and support.

Nancy's points are well and good, but they either have to know about the
groups to hit them, or else hit them with a google hit while trying to
search out a problem solution. Maybe people get to the groups via an MSKB
page, but I think few of them do.

I wish there were a way that everyone who sets up Vista or Win XP or OS's
previous to them on a box would learn about the newsgroups. I think it
would reduce down time in enterprises and medium sized and small businesses
as well.

People can learn to sort the messages quickly, and Rick's point on knowing
how could be remedied by periodically posting a guide.

CH
 
Hi Nancy.

Gee, what's a nice girl like you doing in a place like this?

tisk, tisk...

--
Mark-Allen Perry
160825 / 1112165
Windows Vista X64 Ultimate
RTM Build 6000.16386
ALPHA Systems
Marly, Switzerland
mark-allen @ mvps . org
 
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