Socket 479 for Desktop computing

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magatz

Hi all,
i'm going to renew my htpc, transitioning from a Athlon-XP 3000, to a
Pentium-M solution.
In detail:
Motherboard:AOpen i915GMm-HFS
CPU: any Pentium-M rainging from 750 to 780.

Here comes my troubles:
The mobo says it support 479-pin CPU, but i find a lot of ebay auctions
where CPU stated as 479 chip, are instead described by the intel
Processor Spec finder, as 478 pin.
Further details: the mobo manual says: "This socket supports uFCPGA &
uFCBGA package CPU", and this gives me even more confusion.

Can someone give me a clear explanation of which kind of CPU i need to
buy?
thanks in advance
 
E

Erick

My advice would be to avoid buying anythign from eBay, as I've found a lot
of the sellers know very little about what they are selling. You could buy
what YOU think is a Pentium-M 760 that turns out to be a Pentium 4 560. Not
that Intel's new number system didn't cause enough confusion, right?

Instead, but from an actual computer component vendor (NewEgg and
TigerDirect come to mind). This way you can make sure the specs listed are
correct (or at least close enough to be sure).


Hi all,
i'm going to renew my htpc, transitioning from a Athlon-XP 3000, to a
Pentium-M solution.
In detail:
Motherboard:AOpen i915GMm-HFS
CPU: any Pentium-M rainging from 750 to 780.

Here comes my troubles:
The mobo says it support 479-pin CPU, but i find a lot of ebay auctions
where CPU stated as 479 chip, are instead described by the intel
Processor Spec finder, as 478 pin.
Further details: the mobo manual says: "This socket supports uFCPGA &
uFCBGA package CPU", and this gives me even more confusion.

Can someone give me a clear explanation of which kind of CPU i need to
buy?
thanks in advance
 
P

Paul

magatz said:
Hi all,
i'm going to renew my htpc, transitioning from a Athlon-XP 3000, to a
Pentium-M solution.
In detail:
Motherboard:AOpen i915GMm-HFS
CPU: any Pentium-M rainging from 750 to 780.

Here comes my troubles:
The mobo says it support 479-pin CPU, but i find a lot of ebay auctions
where CPU stated as 479 chip, are instead described by the intel
Processor Spec finder, as 478 pin.
Further details: the mobo manual says: "This socket supports uFCPGA &
uFCBGA package CPU", and this gives me even more confusion.

Can someone give me a clear explanation of which kind of CPU i need to
buy?
thanks in advance

"478 pin Micro-FCPGA and 479 ball Micro-FCBGA packages". The socket
on your motherboard has 479 holes. One hole is blocked out of the
480 maximum positions, leaving 479 holes. The pin grid array chip
(FCPGA) that plugs into the socket, seems to have 478 pins, and
two pins are missing in one corner. (The BGA version looks like it
is intended to solder right to a PCB, and has 479 balls that
match the S479 socket pattern.)

http://download.intel.com/design/mobile/datashts/30526202.pdf

The AOpen test report is here:

ftp://ftp.aopen.com/pub/report/motherboard/nb4pm-i915gmm-hfs.pdf

Q/S-spec Pentium M Processor CPUID Result
QDRB Pentium M 770 2.13GHz 6D8 Pass
QAPF Pentium M 760 2.00GHz 6D8 Pass
QAPE Pentium M 750 1.87GHz 6D8 Pass
QAPD Pentium M 740 1.73GHz 6D8 Pass
QDMV Pentium M 730 1.60GHz 6D8 Pass
SL7V3 Pentium M 765 2.1GHz 6D6 Pass
SL7EM Pentium M 755 2.0GHz 6D6 Pass
Pentium M 745 1.8GHz 6D6 by Spec
Pentium M 735 1.7GHz 6D6 by Spec
SL7EG Pentium M 725 1.6GHz 6D6 Pass
SL7GL Pentium M 715 1.5GHz 6D6 Pass
QDMU Celeron M 360 1.4GHz 6D8 Pass
QDMT Celeron M 350 1.3GHz 6D8 Pass

SL7V3 2.10GHz/FSB400/2MB cache 478 pins 21Watts
http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/details.asp?sSpec=SL7V3

The Q-Spec processors in the list are Engineering Samples, as
I guess retail FSB533 processors weren't available for testing.

http://www.intel.com/support/processors/sb/cs-001616.htm

This Newegg product is a Dothan.
The listed order code is BX80536GE2000FJ

Intel Pentium M 760 Dothan 533MHz FSB 2MB L2 Cache Socket 478 Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819111172

Plugging the order code into processorfinder.intel.com -->

SL7SM 2.0GHz/FSB533/2MB cache 478 pins 27Watts
http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/details.asp?sSpec=SL7SM

I think as long as the product you buy lists 478 pins, everything
should be OK. The Socket is "S479", but the pin grid array
processors that will fit the socket seem to have 478 pins.

Using either the SSpec or the Order Code, and
processorfinder.intel.com , you should be able to get
some info on what you are buying. I hope you cannot
actually find any FCBGA 479 ball packaged processors
at retail (like on Newegg), because an end user cannot
solder those (easily) to a blank PCB.

The list of Pentium M processors is here. Click "Go" and
wait and wait. If you are on dialup, you'll be old and
grey before this finishes rendering. (I used a copy
of Lynx to make the text listed below.)

http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/default.asp?CHRID=942

******
sSpec# CPUSpeed BusSpeed MfgTech Stepping Cache Size Package Type
SL7VB 2.26 GHz 533 MHz 90 nm C0 2 MB 478 pin
SL7SP 2.13 GHz 533 MHz 90 nm C0 2 MB 479 pin
SL7SL 2.13 GHz 533 MHz 90 nm C0 2 MB 478 pin
SL7UZ 2.10 GHz 400 MHz 90 nm B1 2 MB 479 pin
SL7V3 2.10 GHz 400 MHz 90 nm B1 2 MB 478 pin
SL7EM 2 GHz 400 MHz 90 nm B1 2 MB 478 pin
SL7SM 2 GHz 533 MHz 90 nm C0 2 MB 478 pin
SL7SQ 2 GHz 533 MHz 90 nm C0 2 MB 479 pin
SL7SR 1.86 GHz 533 MHz 90 nm C0 2 MB 479 pin
SL7S9 1.86 GHz 533 MHz 90 nm C0 2 MB 478 pin
SL7EN 1.80 GHz 400 MHz 90 nm B1 2 MB 478 pin
SL7SA 1.73 GHz 533 MHz 90 nm C0 2 MB 478 pin
SL7S8 1.73 GHz 533 MHz 90 nm C0 2 MB 479 pin
SL6N5 1.70 GHz 400 MHz 0.13 micron B1 1 MB 478 pin
SL6N9 1.70 GHz 400 MHz 0.13 micron B1 1 MB 479 pin
SL7EP 1.70 GHz 400 MHz 90 nm B1 2 MB 478 pin
SL6FA 1.60 GHz 400 MHz 0.13 micron B1 1 MB 478 pin
SL6F7 1.60 GHz 400 MHz 0.13 micron B1 1 MB 479 pin
SL86G 1.60 GHz 533 MHz 90 nm C0 2 MB 478 pin
SL86M 1.60 GHz 533 MHz 90 nm C0 2 MB 479 pin
SL7EG 1.60 GHz 400 MHz 90 nm B1 2 MB 478 pin
SL8QF 1.60 GHz 400 MHz 90 nm C0 2 MB 479 pin
SL6F6 1.50 GHz 400 MHz 0.13 micron B1 1 MB 479 pin
SL6F9 1.50 GHz 400 MHz 0.13 micron B1 1 MB 478 pin
SL7GL 1.50 GHz 400 MHz 90 nm B1 2 MB 478 pin
SL6F8 1.40 GHz 400 MHz 0.13 micron B1 1 MB 478 pin
SL6F5 1.40 GHz 400 MHz 0.13 micron B1 1 MB 479 pin
SL7F3 1.40 GHz 400 MHz 90 nm B1 2 MB 479 pin
SL6N4 1.30 GHz 400 MHz 0.13 micron B1 1 MB 478 pin
SL6N8 1.30 GHz 400 MHz 0.13 micron B1 1 MB 479 pin
SL6NB 1.20 GHz 400 MHz 0.13 micron B1 1 MB 479 pin
SL6NC 1.10 GHz 400 MHz 0.13 micron B1 1 MB 479 pin
SL7F4 1.10 GHz 400 MHz 90 nm B1 2 MB 479 pin
SL6NJ 900 MHz 400 MHz 0.13 micron B1 1 MB 479 pin
******

Hope I got that right,
Paul
 
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