So is this the beginning of the end?

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Holidays???

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Der er 10 slags mennesker - Dem som forstår binær og dem som ikke gør.
There are 10 kinds of people. Those who understand binary and those who
don't.
Es gibt 10 Arten von Menschen. Die, die Binär verstehen, bzw. die, die es
nicht tuhen.
 
Holidays???
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Not in the US, other than maybe Monday off since the 4th of July was on a
Sunday, but then the last thread was created on Tuesday. Even if the
majority of posters here were European, I thought you guys took your
month-long vacations in August, not July....
 
Jeff Johnson said:
Not in the US, other than maybe Monday off since the 4th of July was on a
Sunday, but then the last thread was created on Tuesday. Even if the
majority of posters here were European, I thought you guys took your
month-long vacations in August, not July....
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Well, normally it's actually only 3 weeks. Sometimes even less.. But they
are usually held during the period of week 28/29 - 30/31.. Myself i have 4
weeks and will return to work monday of week 31...

Oh well.. I hope it's not the beginning of the end.. I rather enjoyed this
group... ;-)

/Finn
 
No new threads in three days. Yikes.
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It definitely looks like traffic has dropped like
an anchor in water.

It seems that many more were using the MS NNTP
server than I thought.

But let us see what happen. If somebody finds out that
there are answers here, then I would expect questions
to show up.

Arne
 
Arne Vajhøj formulated on Friday :
It definitely looks like traffic has dropped like
an anchor in water.

It seems that many more were using the MS NNTP
server than I thought.
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In the US many, if not most, of the major ISP's have dropped USNET
service sometime ago. I'm not sure how many people are aware of free
or cheep alternatives?
 
Peter Duniho laid this down on his screen :
There has not been much traffic, if any, coming from the Microsoft
Communities portal in the last year or so. So people have been using NNTP
servers carrying Usenet from somewhere, either Microsoft's or some other.
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Most likely, like me they were just directly connecting to the MS
servers. Since my ISP - Comcast totally dumped support for nntp
accounts.
It's true that ISPs in general have stopped providing their own NNTP servers.
But NNTP is still alive and well, simply outsourced. The major ISPs I'm
aware of still provide NNTP access, if not through their own servers then
through a third-party server included in their Internet service package, such
as Giganews or Supernews.
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That used to be the case. But around the end of 2008, most of the
major ISP's have either completely dropped or put major restrictions (I
think verizon was limitting access to the big-8) on access.
In any case, given the relative dearth of posts that came to this newsgroup
from the Microsoft web portal, the closure of that portal surely had little
effect on the traffic here. There's a slightly more significant effect that
may have resulted from people no longer having access to the Microsoft NNTP
servers. But it surprises me to even consider that someone savvy enough to
be using an actual NNTP server would also not have the wherewithal to seek
out an alternative, given that alternatives do certainly exist.

I think it's just as likely that we're just seeing a combination of things,
such as normal seasonal variation. At least, I hope so. I hate to think
that I'd have to accept that the inefficient web forum has finally gobbled up
this newsgroup too.
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Only time will tell.
 
In any case, given the relative dearth of posts that came to this
newsgroup from the Microsoft web portal, the closure of that portal
surely had little effect on the traffic here. There's a slightly more
significant effect that may have resulted from people no longer having
access to the Microsoft NNTP servers.
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Must be.

But unless the MS NNTP servers carried all groups, then I think it
would be easier for people to have gotten all groups from a single
server.
I think it's just as likely that we're just seeing a combination of
things, such as normal seasonal variation. At least, I hope so. I hate
to think that I'd have to accept that the inefficient web forum has
finally gobbled up this newsgroup too.
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That would be a shame.

Arne
 
Tom Shelton said:
Peter Duniho laid this down on his screen :

Most likely, like me they were just directly connecting to the MS servers.
Since my ISP - Comcast totally dumped support for nntp accounts.


That used to be the case. But around the end of 2008, most of the major
ISP's have either completely dropped or put major restrictions (I think
verizon was limitting access to the big-8) on access.
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In the UK I think only one now carries news (sourced out to Highwinds)

mick
 
There has not been much traffic, if any, coming from the Microsoft
Communities portal in the last year or so. So people have been using
NNTP servers carrying Usenet from somewhere, either Microsoft's or some
other.

It's true that ISPs in general have stopped providing their own NNTP
servers. But NNTP is still alive and well, simply outsourced. The
major ISPs I'm aware of still provide NNTP access, if not through their
own servers then through a third-party server included in their Internet
service package, such as Giganews or Supernews.
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usenet is alive but fewer new users appear to be discovering its
existence.
In any case, given the relative dearth of posts that came to this
newsgroup from the Microsoft web portal, the closure of that portal
surely had little effect on the traffic here. There's a slightly more
significant effect that may have resulted from people no longer having
access to the Microsoft NNTP servers. But it surprises me to even
consider that someone savvy enough to be using an actual NNTP server
would also not have the wherewithal to seek out an alternative, given
that alternatives do certainly exist.
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MS's advance notices probably did more to thin out the traffic than
anything else. It seems obvious MS wants no alternatives to using
web-based forums.
I think it's just as likely that we're just seeing a combination of
things, such as normal seasonal variation. At least, I hope so. I hate
to think that I'd have to accept that the inefficient web forum has
finally gobbled up this newsgroup too.
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I'm afraid your fears concerning inefficient web forums will be
realized.
 
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