Slow Boot After Installing New PSU

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Chris

Just installed new 650W PSU ( more than enough power for my needs) after
failure of the previous unit. The only problem is that the computer now
takes about 4 minutes to boot to screen compared to about 90 seconds before.

Anybody got any thoughts on why this should be ?
 
Failure of the PSU could have corrupted the hard disk, damaged the
motherboard and or other components.

Check the Event log for errors.
Check "Device Manager" to verify that there are no problems.

JS
http://www.pagestart.com
 
Just installed new 650W PSU ( more than enough power for my needs) after
failure of the previous unit. The only problem is that the computer now
takes about 4 minutes to boot to screen compared to about 90 seconds before.
Anybody got any thoughts on why this should be ?
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Probably a defective power supply unit. These are nowadays so cheaply
made we must expect them to fail regularly. (In January I had a brand-
new one fail within 3 weeks. Fortunately it takes less than 5 minutes
to instal and test a new one functionally, faster than with a voltage
meter.)
 
JS said:
Failure of the PSU could have corrupted the hard disk, damaged the
motherboard and or other components.

Check the Event log for errors.
Check "Device Manager" to verify that there are no problems.

JS
http://www.pagestart.com
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Device manager shows no problems

Event log only shows paging problem on hdd2, is this likely to slow boot ?

All programs run fine once computer has started
 
JS said:
Yes it could be, change the page file back to letting Windows create the
pagefile and see if the slow boot goes away.
If it does you need to look at the second drive as suspect.

JS
http://www.pagestart.com
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Thanks for the reply, how do I let windows create the pagefile ?
 
Don said:
Probably a defective power supply unit. These are nowadays so cheaply
made we must expect them to fail regularly. (In January I had a brand-
new one fail within 3 weeks. Fortunately it takes less than 5 minutes
to instal and test a new one functionally, faster than with a voltage
meter.)
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Don,
Paid for a pretty decent PSU replacement from a reliable manufacturer so
with all other power cables working OK I ruled out any possible failure
so time ago
 
You might want to read this:
How to configure paging files for optimization and recovery in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314482/en-us

How to move the paging file in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307886/

Make note of the dump file limitations with a single page file.
That said, I have a single page file located on a second drive
(first partition of the second drive) and it is a fixed size.
Because I the pagefile located on it's own dedicated partition
there is no fragmentation.

JS
http://www.pagestart.com
 
Chris

Please post a copy of the Event Viewer error report.

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event
Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of
the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
Event Viewer.


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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A meter is quicker but may not necasarily show these types of failures. I
replaced a Saturn PSU in 2 computers because it killed several Gigabyte
motherboards per case.
 
Gerry said:
Chris

Please post a copy of the Event Viewer error report.

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event
Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of
the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
Event Viewer.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Gerry, Error report as requested
Event Source: Disk
Event Category: None
Event ID: 51
Date: 02/11/2008
Time: 14:51:13
User: N/A
Computer: MAIN
Description:
An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk2\D during a paging operation.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 04 00 68 00 01 00 b6 00 ..h...¶.
0008: 00 00 00 00 33 00 04 80 ....3..€
0010: 2d 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 -.......
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 3e 0c bd 00 00 00 00 .>.½....
0028: ba df 11 00 00 00 00 00 ºß......
0030: ff ff ff ff 03 00 00 00 ÿÿÿÿ....
0038: 40 00 00 84 02 00 00 00 @..„....
0040: 00 20 0a 12 80 01 20 40 . ..€. @
0048: 00 00 00 00 0a 00 00 00 ........
0050: 00 10 36 85 80 bb c1 86 ..6…€»Ã†
0058: 00 00 00 00 a0 d5 14 86 .... Õ.†
0060: 00 00 00 00 1f 86 5e 00 .....†^.
0068: 2a 00 00 5e 86 1f 00 00 *..^†...
0070: 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0078: 70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0a p.......
0080: 00 00 00 00 04 02 00 00 ........
0088: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
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It not a pagefile issue, it's a paging error. Could be due to hard drive
going bad.
Start by identifying the drive manufacturer and then download and run their
disk
diagnostics utilities.

JS
 
Chris

JS has made a sensible suggestion. Another way to investigate your hard
drive is to use HD Tune.

Try HD Tune only gives information and does not fix any
problems.

Download and run it and see what it turns up. You want HD Tune
(freeware) version 2.55 not HD Tune Pro (not Freeware) version 3.00.
http://www.hdtune.com/

Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive
letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard )
and copy into a further message.

Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy to
Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Make sure you do a full
surface scan with HD Tune.

You might find something in this link to help:
http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=51&eventno=793&source=Disk&phase=1


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
Gerry said:
Chris

JS has made a sensible suggestion. Another way to investigate your hard
drive is to use HD Tune.

Try HD Tune only gives information and does not fix any
problems.

Download and run it and see what it turns up. You want HD Tune
(freeware) version 2.55 not HD Tune Pro (not Freeware) version 3.00.
http://www.hdtune.com/

Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive
letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard )
and copy into a further message.

Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy to
Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Make sure you do a full
surface scan with HD Tune.

You might find something in this link to help:
http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=51&eventno=793&source=Disk&phase=1
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Gerry,

Thanks for the reply, the information you requested is below also
downloaded the Seatools diagnostic from Seagate which showed no
abnormalities
 
Power down the PC, disconnect the cable to the second drive and then see if
the boot time changes.
At the very least this should tell you if it really is the second drive or
something else.

JS
http://www.pagestart.com
 
JS said:
Power down the PC, disconnect the cable to the second drive and then see if
the boot time changes.
At the very least this should tell you if it really is the second drive or
something else.

JS
http://www.pagestart.com
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JS

I probably should have done what you suggested earlier, disconnected the
suspect drive with no improvement in load-up time. I am now turning my
attention to the bios, is it possible that this may have been affected
?.I have taken a look at the POST during start-up and it does seem to
"hang" for a long period after it has completed the memory test.
Any further thoughts would be appreciated
 
Well after the power supply failure, it could be a motherboard problem,
including the BIOS. Check your current BIOS settings for the hard drive,
which is usually set to "Auto Detect". Then check other bios settings and
look for something out of the norm.

You could always download the latest BIOS update from the PC manufacture's
web site and flash the BIOS. Once flashed you will need to review each BIOS
setting.

Let me know what you find.

JS
http://www.pagestart.com
 
JS said:
Well after the power supply failure, it could be a motherboard problem,
including the BIOS. Check your current BIOS settings for the hard drive,
which is usually set to "Auto Detect". Then check other bios settings and
look for something out of the norm.

You could always download the latest BIOS update from the PC manufacture's
web site and flash the BIOS. Once flashed you will need to review each BIOS
setting.

Let me know what you find.

JS
http://www.pagestart.com
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JS

Sorry for the delay in replying, I`ve had no luck in trying to get an
upgrade to my bios. The abit utility is referring me to the website and
there appears to be none available. The current bios version is
12\11\2006 but I purchased and installed the board in February 2008 so I
am sure there must be one more current. BTW, I have no floppy disk
installed so may prove more difficult to install if one is available.
Thanks
Chris
 
Sorry for the delay in replying, I`ve had no luck in trying to get an
upgrade to my bios. The abit utility is referring me to the website and
there appears to be none available.
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Why would a perfectly good BIOS change? Either the BIOS is
completely defective or it is intact and needs no upgrade. Power
supply does not make a BIOS defective. Loading a new BIOS with other
defective hardware is a sure way to permanently trash a computer.

You changed a power supply. What did you do to confirm that new
supply is working? A defective supply can still boot a computer.

Meanwhile, what part of the BIOS execution takes longer? Computer
does a long list of things long before booting from any peripheral.
For example, just setting up the PCI buss involves software as complex
as old DOS.

OK. So is the slow down during setup or with booting? Nothing
posted says that. Some BIOS can be changed to be verbose.

What is the difference in booting from harddrive verses CD-Rom
verses from a USB memory stick? All are (should be) bootable
according to your BIOS.

The system log reported a page problem? What are the details and
numbers? Obviously, this is only a problem after a system boots.
Currently I do not see anything that says where the BIOS slowdown even
exists - before or during booting - a critically important fact.
 
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