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Perplexed

I do consulting and have a personal business website. I would like to
have a friends and family site too but don't want another hosting
subscription and domain name. Can I burry family pages as
free-floating group within my business site?

I would give friends the link to the parent family page.

Comments, suggestions please.
 
I see no reason why not.

If the home page of your business site is
http://mybussite.mydomain.com/index.html, then create a folder under
http://mybussite.mydomain.com/ , say "personal" and add a "home page" to
this, say family.html.

Then the link to the family site would then be
http://mybussite.mydomain.com/personal/family.html

You can add other pages under the "personal" folder as you want. Make all
the links within this to go back to family.html and also have a link from
http://mybussite.mydomain.com/personal/family.html back to
http://mybussite.mydomain.com/index.html in case someone gets there by
accident and needs to get to the business site.

I think this would work quite well.

I would try it for fun, but it's your idea, so give it a go
 
Perplexed,
I agree with Eleanor's comment.
But does it matter that visitors to the family site can also see the
business site's address?

It is the other way that could be a problem. If visitors to the business
site were easily able to get to the family site when that doesn't interest
them

I think with careful design of the links that is unlikely to happen
 
Thanks folks. I continue to be open to suggestions as I am new to this
program.

It doesn't matter if family & friends look at the business site, most
will find it boring.

If a business visitor finds the family site it isn't a crisis, but I
want to keep the business site business-like.
 
Create a new folder and add all your pages and images into that folder. Save
the main page as index.htm and make the folder name easy for family members
to remember.

http://www.website.com/jonesfamily

When family members type in the address it will direct them to the index
file of that folder. Remember to keep the folder name easy to remember so it
is not complicated for beginners of your family. I do this with my family and
it works great.

If you don't want search engines to pick up on the family pages don't
include any link on your main page, any page that gets a link from your main
page, or a site map file. I have had a family page for 2 years and have never
received 1 hit from search engine.

This can work for multiple folders as well. I have even set it up that
member of my family living on 2000 miles away can upload there own pictures
into the site. I have had no problems so far and I have made a username and
password so they have very limited access to only 1 folder.
Good Luck.
Charles
 
Perplexed said:
Thanks folks. I continue to be open to suggestions as I am new to
this
program.

It doesn't matter if family & friends look at the business site,
most
will find it boring.

If a business visitor finds the family site it isn't a crisis, but I
want to keep the business site business-like.
Click to expand...

Then keep in mind that the web crawlers are going to crawl all pages,
so someone looking for Joe's Thing-a-bobs(business) may also see Joe's
Sweet Kids(private).

Tom J
who put something personal on business page once - never again!
 
Not from what I have experienced from my website in the past 2 years. As long
as you don't post the family link on any of your business webpages the
webbots have yet to find my family webpage. Trust me on this- I have 2
different types of statcounters. And if they do find it because of a mistake-
change the name of the family folder. It takes 2 seconds to right click and
rename a folder- Frontpage will change any necessary links on the family
pages. If you are paranoid then add the meta data that blocks bots from
indexing the family pages.
Then keep in mind that the web crawlers are going to crawl all pages,
so someone looking for Joe's Thing-a-bobs(business) may also see Joe's
Sweet Kids(private).
Click to expand...

Untrue. Read above and my previous post. I have done this with 3 subsites
and have yet to see any search engines finding these folder sites.
 
Just because you have not experienced (or think you have not) does not make it
untrue. I copied this statement right off the Google site:

Only the top-level page from a host is necessary; you do not need to submit each
individual page. Our crawler, Googlebot, will be able to find the rest
 
Hi-

The googlebot reads the links it finds from the main page and follows those
links. It then does that with pages it finds- Crawling- it reads all the
links and so fourth.

Don't place your family link on any of these pages and it won't find it.

Google is not reading every combination of ever letter and word for HTML
files and folders on your website. It finds the pages by "crawling."

You are telling Google what to look for on your main page / site map. It
crawls those subpages and looks for new links.

I am just trying to help. This works as I have written and if your don't
believe it then that is fine. You don't offer any other option for the
initial question. Like I said if you post your folder link in a sitemap file
or any page that can get crawled back to your main page then google will find
it. Don't make that mistake.

Clark said:
Just because you have not experienced (or think you have not) does not make it
untrue. I copied this statement right off the Google site:

Only the top-level page from a host is necessary; you do not need to submit each
individual page. Our crawler, Googlebot, will be able to find the rest
Click to expand...

Please read number 3:
http://www.google.com/intl/en/webmasters/2.html

And this page:
http://www.google.com/intl/en/webmasters/guidelines.html

As written on Google:

"Make a site with a clear hierarchy and text links. Every page should be
reachable from at least one static text link. "

What I am saying is don't do this with your family site. Keep it outside of
your normal site.

Good Luck. And give it a test on your site. Please read my other threads for
the guidelines. And what is the harm in setting up a folder and few pages and
keeping an eye on it for a few weeks and seeing if it gets traffic. If you
follow the guidelines it won't be index. Also don't post the link in any
online forums or other websites as Google will find your folder through the
other sites.

Charles
 
As I have written this is a quick and simple way to make a subsite where it
won't be index by search engines. Please don't use this method for highly
secure information that you don't want people viewing- like credit info or
passwords. You certainly would want a more secure method. This is a simple
method with absolute no security. For example- if a family member posts the
link in a forum or a an outside webpage then it will recieve traffic from
that site. Also the search engines may then find it from that website. Add
meta tags for "no indexing" of family pages.

http://www.robotstxt.org/wc/meta-user.html

If you follow the previous threads written then Google and Yahoo will not
index the pages.

However if you are still concerned about privacy then setup a username/
password protected folder for family members.

Best of luck-
Charles
 
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