Single board computers to run Win XPE (fanless/w CF/w 512M)

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Arya Abraham

My application is to embed existing code that was written
for .NET on a Win2k platform into a headless single board
computer -- hence WinXPE and a SBC. People on this group
have been poking fun at me for my extravangent specs,
hence I post this request for information with
considerable trepidation.

In my search for a board with the following specs:
1. fanless operation (biggest consideration)
2. Pentium III class processor
3. Compact Flash
4. at least 512M :)
5. I/O ports (RS232/RS485)
6. Ethernet
7. Headless operation

I've come across 1 board from AMPRO -- they call it the
Little Board, 1 board from AEON -- ECM5616 and 1 board
from BCM EBC5612. I was hoping that somebody on this group
might know of other manufacturers that they have worked
with/researched/heard of, that make boards with similar
specs.

I've seen quite a few boards with the Eden/Ezra
processors. The reviews I've read on the web indicate that
these processors are a quarter of the speed or slower than
even the Celeron (based on the PIII). Are there any other
x86 clones out there that people are using?

If you are reading this then you must have read through
the whole posting. Thank you.

Sincerely
Arya
 
Hello,

Try these...

http://www.advantech.com/products/Model_Detail.asp?model_id=1-EH0DL&bu=

http://www.advantech.com/products/Model_Detail.asp?model_id=1-D6M2S&bu=

http://www.orbitmicro.com/products/embedded boards/via/EBC-363.htm

http://www.orbitmicro.com/products/embedded boards/via/EBC-365.htm

http://www.orbitmicro.com/products/embedded boards/via/EBC-365LP6.htm

http://www.icpamerica.com/Wafer_C800EV.php

http://www.ibase.com.tw/ib795.htm

**Beware the word wrap...The advantech links need the = sign at the end I
believe**

There are hundreds of boards out there that meet your specifications. This
should get you started. I'd hate to make a recommendation one over the
other, but you'll probably get the best support from advantech if your in
the states. If not I wouldn't know who to suggest, but good luck!

HTH,

Brad Combs
Imago Technologies
 
Sorry Arya,
My intention was not to poke you, instead I was trying to make a statement
for you to understand that having 512 MB RAM is big thing.
And that you can use RAM EWF without problem.
My application is to embed existing code that was written
for .NET on a Win2k platform into a headless single board
computer -- hence WinXPE and a SBC. People on this group
have been poking fun at me for my extravangent specs,
hence I post this request for information with
considerable trepidation.
Click to expand...

They are not extravagant at all,

I'm using extravagant specification.

512MB 2x400MHz Memory
Intel P4-2400 @ 800 MHz FSB (HTT)
Intel gigabit network adapter on CSA can work in full duplex.
Graphic card AGP 8x.
Etc...

And this is bare minimum to be able to activate all options from our
application.
So as you can see we will have to wait some time for some embedded hardware.
And your config is not extravagant.

I'm sorry because you felt considerable trepidation :-( this was not my
intention.


Best regards,
Slobodan
 
Hi Brad,

Thank you for the links. This brings me to the second part
of my first posting in this thread. How do the Eden and
the Ezra compare with a low power PIII or Celeron? There
was only one article on the web that tried to compare
these processors with the Celeron. The performace
difference was quite significant. Also some of the
applications refused to work with the Eden/Ezra.

My applications are going to be memory/computationally
intensive. I think think that for similar classes of
processors, the size of the cache on the processor will
make the biggest difference. Any comments?

You see my biggest problem is trying to get a fanless
board with oodles of RAM and computing power, which are
sort of like on the opposite ends of the spectrum here. :)

Sincerely
Arya Abraham
 
Hello,

One of the boards we use from Boser has a 400MHz VIA Eden CPU.
We also use a 750MHZ Celeron board on some sites, also running XPe and the
same apps. The performance seems pretty much the same with both boards.
 
I have been using SBC's for the past 6 years in
If you got to run Fanless you have no other choice but the VIA based boards.

Here is a quick comparasion on some boards.
All running XPe and the benchmarks were done with SANDRA.
AMPRO is the biggest POS!
We had nothing but trouble it almost took the company down!
They are also the most expensive!

I'm working on two Xpe projects now, both will have the Arbor VIA boards in
them!




Acrosser
Adastra

Acrosser
Kontron
Adventech
Arbor




300Mhz Geode
266Mhz Intel

800Mhz VIA
800Mhz VIA
667 Via
533 Via












Arithmetic CPU Test
ALU (MIPS)
326
576

940
940
783
620



FPU (MFLOPS)
223
340

289
289
241
193












MulriMedia CPU Test
Int (It/s)
445
685

1274
1275
1062
780



Float (It/s)
89
211

1480
1481
1234
1001












Memory

Integer (MB/s)
96
127

131
163
FAIL
185



Float (MB/s)
88
129

147
165
FAIL
198












Cache

2K block (MB/s)
213
647

1447
1448
1127
987



32K block (MB/s)
115
290

1505
1504
1252
1030












LAN
HQBUS (5x AVG)
Latency (us)
1200
767

435
898
353
380



Loss (%)
13
0

0
3
0
0



Speed (MB/s)
3774
5160

6362
6676
6966
6814












BIOS


11 sec
15 sec

6 sec

13 sec
8 sec
 
We've been working with a VIA C3 processor board. The 866 MHz version does
not use a fan. We are curretnly using a 1.2GHz version that includes a fan,
but will probably work fanless too if you have enough space for a bigger
heat sink.

Hartmut
 
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