Silicon Image Ultra ATA Ide Controller Card

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I have installed to the point where Device Manager sees it and says it's
working properly. At the moment of truth, when I connect my drives to the
card and restart, Windows sees the drives as Secondary (not Primary) and
hangs. How do I get the drives to be seen as primary?

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Patrick S Page
PO Box 1212
Morongo Valley, CA 92256-1212

(e-mail address removed)
760.363.0062
 
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peterk
 
The only exception is to use Premium Line numbers where you can make
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To the card,as in a IDE PCI card.How/why would one be connecting drives in
internet explorer,then you restart...Restart computer,installation ???Try
power
off computer,connect youre drives to the card,start computer to the BIOS,con-
figure youre hardware in the BIOS,xp will set as its configured to BIOS
(basic
input output system).
 
Patrick Page said:
I have installed to the point where Device Manager sees it
and says it's working properly. At the moment of truth, when
I connect my drives to the card and restart, Windows sees
the drives as Secondary (not Primary) and hangs. How do
I get the drives to be seen as primary?
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I have no idea what you mean by Windows seeing HDs
as Primary or Secondary, but PCI IDE controller card will
see the HDs as being on the primary channel (ch. 0)
or secondary channel (ch 1). But what is important is
how the HDs appear in the HD boot order in the
motherboard BIOS. It will go to the HD at the head of the
HD boot order and look for its MBR. Then it will pass
control to that MBR, which in turn will pass control to the
boot sector of the "active" partition listed in the HD's
partition table. That partition better have the boot files -
ntldr, boot.ini, and ntdetect.com .

So, what you want to do is to put the HD with the boot
files - usually the one that has the OS - at the head of the
HD boot order. You can just go into the BIOS and set the
proper HD to the head of the boot order manually via
keyboard. Or, since most BIOSes, as a default, put the
HD jumpered as Master on ch. 0 (i.e. the Primary channel)
at the head of the boot order, you can just plug the IDE cable
that connects the 2 HDs to the conroller card into the other
IDE connector on the card. IOW, you just plugged the cable
into the wrong connector on the card.

*TimDaniels*
 
Patrick Page said:
I have installed to the point where Device Manager sees it and says it's
working properly. At the moment of truth, when I connect my drives to the
card and restart, Windows sees the drives as Secondary (not Primary) and
hangs. How do I get the drives to be seen as primary?

--
Patrick S Page
PO Box 1212
Morongo Valley, CA 92256-1212

(e-mail address removed)
760.363.0062
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Primary and secondary are determined by what IDE connector on the board the
cable is connected to. Assuming there are 2 connectors. If there is only one
connector, it may be that it's hardwired to be a secondary.

And just in case you're confusing primary/secondary with master/slave, those
setting are controlled by jumpers on the drive, and if you chose cable
select, it then is controlled by the position on the cable.

Last, there's probably no compelling reason for a drive to be on the primary
as opposed the secondary, especially considering you have Windows already
installed.

Is there some problem you're having, or is this just some sort of
housekeeping issue you're trying to straighten out?
 
On the contrary, the most compelling reason would be that most new HD's use
UDMA 5 mode (primary IDE channel) and CD/DVD ROM/RW's use UDMA 2 mode
(secondary IDE channel) If you mix HD's and CD/DVD devices on the same
channel you are more apt to have conflicts between devices on another
channel..It is a better idea to keep HD's on the primary channel master/slave
or computer select and likewise for CD/DVD on the secondary channel, which in
turn creates less conflict and confusion for the OS...
j;-j
 
Jaymon said:
On the contrary, the most compelling reason would be that most new HD's
use
UDMA 5 mode (primary IDE channel) and CD/DVD ROM/RW's use UDMA 2 mode
(secondary IDE channel) If you mix HD's and CD/DVD devices on the same
channel you are more apt to have conflicts between devices on another
channel..It is a better idea to keep HD's on the primary channel
master/slave
or computer select and likewise for CD/DVD on the secondary channel, which
in
turn creates less conflict and confusion for the OS...
j;-j
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Jaymon:


Jaymon:
Mr. Currie is most certainly correct. In another thread you basically
repeated what you're stating now. It was incorrect then; it's incorrect now.

As I stated in my reply to your posting in the other thread...

With relatively modern motherboards & components the Primary IDE channel can
be used to connect *any* IDE/ATAPI device whatsoever without any performance
issue being raised. There's *no* reason why an optical drive cannot be
connected to the Slave position on the Primary IDE channel. It will not
affect its performance one iota. If, for some reason, the physical layout of
the motherboard makes it more convenient to connect an optical drive to the
Primary Slave position, there's no harm in doing so. And similarly, there's
no problem performance-wise if a secondary HD is connected anywhere on the
Secondary IDE channel. Years & years ago, there *could be* a performance
issue with these type of connections, but that time has long since past.

It *is* true that all things considered, it's always (or nearly always) best
to connect the booting HD to the Primary Master position. But this is only
because some motherboards (a very few) do have a problem when the bootable
drive is located on a position other than PM. But it's probably a moot
point, since you would be hard-pressed to find a booting HD that's connected
to a position *other" than the PM one.

The ULTRA-5 mode is available on *both* IDE channels. Other than the booting
HD being normally connected to the Primary Master position as noted above,
there are *no* compelling reasons to connect hard drives on the primary IDE
channel and optical drives on the secondary IDE channel. There will *not* be
more "conflict and confusion for the OS" nor will there be any performance
degradation should a HD be connected on the secondary IDE channel and an
optical drive on the primary IDE channel.
Anna
 
Anna said:
Jaymon:


Jaymon:
Mr. Currie is most certainly correct. In another thread you basically
repeated what you're stating now. It was incorrect then; it's incorrect
now.

As I stated in my reply to your posting in the other thread...

With relatively modern motherboards & components the Primary IDE channel
can
be used to connect *any* IDE/ATAPI device whatsoever without any
performance
issue being raised. There's *no* reason why an optical drive cannot be
connected to the Slave position on the Primary IDE channel. It will not
affect its performance one iota. If, for some reason, the physical layout
of
the motherboard makes it more convenient to connect an optical drive to
the
Primary Slave position, there's no harm in doing so. And similarly,
there's
no problem performance-wise if a secondary HD is connected anywhere on the
Secondary IDE channel. Years & years ago, there *could be* a performance
issue with these type of connections, but that time has long since past.

It *is* true that all things considered, it's always (or nearly always)
best to connect the booting HD to the Primary Master position. But this is
only because some motherboards (a very few) do have a problem when the
bootable drive is located on a position other than PM. But it's probably a
moot point, since you would be hard-pressed to find a booting HD that's
connected to a position *other" than the PM one.

The ULTRA-5 mode is available on *both* IDE channels. Other than the
booting HD being normally connected to the Primary Master position as
noted above, there are *no* compelling reasons to connect hard drives on
the primary IDE channel and optical drives on the secondary IDE channel.
There will *not* be more "conflict and confusion for the OS" nor will
there be any performance degradation should a HD be connected on the
secondary IDE channel and an optical drive on the primary IDE channel.
Anna
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Thanks, Anna. The other thing that seems to have gotten lost in the
conversation is that the OP is talking about an additional drive on an
add-on card, and there was no mention of CD drives, so I'm not sure why
that's even come into play.
 
Old habits die hard...
j:-/

Anna said:
Jaymon:


Jaymon:
Mr. Currie is most certainly correct. In another thread you basically
repeated what you're stating now. It was incorrect then; it's incorrect now.

As I stated in my reply to your posting in the other thread...

With relatively modern motherboards & components the Primary IDE channel can
be used to connect *any* IDE/ATAPI device whatsoever without any performance
issue being raised. There's *no* reason why an optical drive cannot be
connected to the Slave position on the Primary IDE channel. It will not
affect its performance one iota. If, for some reason, the physical layout of
the motherboard makes it more convenient to connect an optical drive to the
Primary Slave position, there's no harm in doing so. And similarly, there's
no problem performance-wise if a secondary HD is connected anywhere on the
Secondary IDE channel. Years & years ago, there *could be* a performance
issue with these type of connections, but that time has long since past.

It *is* true that all things considered, it's always (or nearly always) best
to connect the booting HD to the Primary Master position. But this is only
because some motherboards (a very few) do have a problem when the bootable
drive is located on a position other than PM. But it's probably a moot
point, since you would be hard-pressed to find a booting HD that's connected
to a position *other" than the PM one.

The ULTRA-5 mode is available on *both* IDE channels. Other than the booting
HD being normally connected to the Primary Master position as noted above,
there are *no* compelling reasons to connect hard drives on the primary IDE
channel and optical drives on the secondary IDE channel. There will *not* be
more "conflict and confusion for the OS" nor will there be any performance
degradation should a HD be connected on the secondary IDE channel and an
optical drive on the primary IDE channel.
Anna
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