Shutdown is erratic

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James

Lately, my PC fails to 'auto-shutoff' about 50% of the time. I'll end up
looking at a blue screen until I shut if off at the UPS.

I'm running Win2000 SP4 on a 4-5 year old Dell Dimension 4100 - with Firefox
1.5.

When it fails to shut off on its own, sometimes, next morning 'check-disk'
is engaged when I turn it back on.

I can live with this if I must. It's no biggie. Computer functions fine
otherwise.

Any ideas as to what's occurring - and is there a way to fix it?

Thanks, james
 
Dave, The UPHClean.msi executable file appears to have remedied the
problem. I first downloaded the plug-in - then ran the msi file. My first
'road-test' was good. Time will tell . . . You mentioned: I may have two
problems - and to download and run the 'manufacturer's diagnostic tools.
(drive controller and disk).' I didn't find it {to download}. I only saw
the 'Network Diagnostic Tools for WinXP' - under 'What others are
downloading.'

If I should still download and run it - where do I find it? And, what might
my 'second' problem be?

Thanks Dave, the UPHClean.msi executable file may have fixed things,

James



Dave Patrick said:
Seems you may have two problems.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1B286E6D-8912-4E18-
B570-42470E2F3582&displaylang=en

Also download and run the manufacturer's diagnostic tools. (drive controller
and disk)

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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

James said:
Lately, my PC fails to 'auto-shutoff' about 50% of the time. I'll end up
looking at a blue screen until I shut if off at the UPS.

I'm running Win2000 SP4 on a 4-5 year old Dell Dimension 4100 - with
Firefox
1.5.

When it fails to shut off on its own, sometimes, next morning 'check-disk'
is engaged when I turn it back on.

I can live with this if I must. It's no biggie. Computer functions fine
otherwise.

Any ideas as to what's occurring - and is there a way to fix it?

Thanks, james
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James said:
Dave, The UPHClean.msi executable file appears to have remedied the
problem. I first downloaded the plug-in - then ran the msi file. My first
'road-test' was good. Time will tell . . . You mentioned: I may have two
problems - and to download and run the 'manufacturer's diagnostic tools.
(drive controller and disk).' I didn't find it {to download}. I only saw
the 'Network Diagnostic Tools for WinXP' - under 'What others are
downloading.'

If I should still download and run it - where do I find it? And, what might
my 'second' problem be?

Thanks Dave, the UPHClean.msi executable file may have fixed things,

James



Seems you may have two problems.


http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1B286E6D-8912-4E18-
B570-42470E2F3582&displaylang=en

Also download and run the manufacturer's diagnostic tools. (drive
controller

and disk)

--

Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

James said:
Lately, my PC fails to 'auto-shutoff' about 50% of the time. I'll end
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up
looking at a blue screen until I shut if off at the UPS.

I'm running Win2000 SP4 on a 4-5 year old Dell Dimension 4100 - with
Firefox
1.5.

When it fails to shut off on its own, sometimes, next morning
Click to expand...
'check-disk'
is engaged when I turn it back on.

I can live with this if I must. It's no biggie. Computer functions
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I have the same machine and system, and once had the same problem.It's
possibly corruption of your power management system files, or registry
problems. Although the file you've downloaded should do the trick, I
just ran chkdsk /f in safe mode, and that cured the problem for me.
 
Frank Booth Snr said:
I have the same machine and system, and once had the same problem.It's
possibly corruption of your power management system files, or registry
problems. Although the file you've downloaded should do the trick, I
just ran chkdsk /f in safe mode, and that cured the problem for me.
Click to expand...

Frank, In case Dave's apparent fix {didn't}, would you please describe how
I run 'chkdsk /f in safe mode.'
I'm being lazy here. But rather than laboriously look for 'how-to'
directions, since you've 'been there - done that,' I'd greatly welcome a
brief description of just how to run chkdsk /f in safe mode.

Thanks, james
 
James said:
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Frank, In case Dave's apparent fix {didn't}, would you please describe how
I run 'chkdsk /f in safe mode.'
I'm being lazy here. But rather than laboriously look for 'how-to'
directions, since you've 'been there - done that,' I'd greatly welcome a
brief description of just how to run chkdsk /f in safe mode.

Thanks, james
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You boot the computer up in safe mode, and run chkdsk /f
 
James said:
Frank, In case Dave's apparent fix {didn't}, would you please describe how
I run 'chkdsk /f in safe mode.'
I'm being lazy here. But rather than laboriously look for 'how-to'
directions, since you've 'been there - done that,' I'd greatly welcome a
brief description of just how to run chkdsk /f in safe mode.
Click to expand...
If you don't know how to get into 'safe mode' you do so by tapping the
F8 button at POST stage (just as your PC finishes showing the Dell
screen which is the first screen you see as you boot up). You then
automatically go into a boot menu screen and you select the safe mode
option. Note that it takes a few minutes to get to a safe mode boot up,
so don't worry if your screen appears to freeze for a while. When
booted, Start/Run/Chkdsk /F
 
Frank Booth said:
If you don't know how to get into 'safe mode' you do so by tapping the
F8 button at POST stage (just as your PC finishes showing the Dell
screen which is the first screen you see as you boot up). You then
automatically go into a boot menu screen and you select the safe mode
option. Note that it takes a few minutes to get to a safe mode boot up,
so don't worry if your screen appears to freeze for a while. When
booted, Start/Run/Chkdsk /F
Click to expand...

I did manage to accomplish the above - but, not without jumping through the
usual 'computer' hoops, i.e., converting from FAT32 to NTFS {seemed to be a
'can't lock drive' issue with FAT32}. Did the conversion, then encountered
'chkdsk /f cannot run because the volume is in use . . .' . Got past that
with a 'Can do on re-boot, if you want.' I opted for that - and then
doubted if indeed chkdsk /f had actually been performed {it seemed to happen
to quickly - but, I guess it 'ran.'

Time will tell if the combo 'UPHClean.msi executable file' and chkdsk /f
solved my intermittent failure to automatically shut-off problem.

Thanks, james
 
If you get an error something to the effect "cannot open volume for direct
access" There is some system/boot start device that is reading/writing to
the drive before chkdsk can get a lock on the drive. Some anti-virus
applications do this. Hence the suggestion to run it always from the
recovery console.

Windows 2000 includes the convert.exe utility that allows you to convert to
NTFS without any loss of data. The downside to this is you'll end up with
512 byte clusters which is pretty inefficient, slow, and more prone to
fragmentation. The overhead of traversing a greater number of clusters to
retrieve and commit data will result in a degradation in file system (or
disk I/O) performance. Best to choose NTFS at the time of install.


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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect
 
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