Shut a Hard drive off/on in Windows?

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I have a home server, with all my important files on one HDD. Having
survived two hard drive crashes in the past, I'm aware that this is a
disaster waiting to happen.
What I would LOVE to be able to do is this: have an extra hard drive
installed, but have it shut off all the time except maybe once a week
when I want it to spin up and back up my files. Afterwards, I would
want it to shut off again, with the computer and the other hard drive
still humming.
Is this possible?
I will love you forever if you show me how.
 
Hello,

Why not just use an external hard disk drive? Or DIY one yourself with
off-the-shelf enclosure and hard disk.

Otherwise, your suggestion may be possible if you wire the power cable to
the other hard disk to a 'switch' by modding. Note that this requires the PC
to be off before flicking the switch to on/off.
 
JRC said:
I have a home server, with all my important files on one HDD. Having
survived two hard drive crashes in the past, I'm aware that this is a
disaster waiting to happen.
What I would LOVE to be able to do is this: have an extra hard drive
installed, but have it shut off all the time except maybe once a week
when I want it to spin up and back up my files. Afterwards, I would
want it to shut off again, with the computer and the other hard drive
still humming.
Is this possible?
I will love you forever if you show me how.

Some motherboards have a RAID controller on the motherboard, where
one SATA interface is internal to the computer, and there is one
ESATA interface on the back of the computer, in the I/O area. The
concept is, you set up a RAID 1 mirror using two drives. One SATA
drive stays inside the computer, permanently connected to the
internal SATA connector. The external ESATA connector goes via
ESATA cable, to an external SATA enclosure.

RAID 1 is a mirror. When you unplug the external drive, you break
the mirror, and the internal drive accumulates all of your state
changes (just like it is doing right now).

Later, when you want to do a backup, you can hot-plug the external
drive again (ESATA is hot-pluggable). Then, using the RAID management
software, you instruct your computer to "rebuild the mirror". That
involves the computer copying the internal disk to the external disk.
I believe you can even do that, while the computer continues to run.
That, in effect, is your backup.

When the mirror status is "rebuild complete", then you should be
able to unplug the external drive again.

Looking through the cards on Newegg, I couldn't really find a plugin
card that "does everything" and is cheap. This one comes close, but
it is a PCI Express x1 card. Note that this card uses a Jmicron JMB363,
and has one PATA port and two SATA ports. (JMB363 is used on many
motherboards, as a PATA connector solution.) But there are four SATA
connectors, two internal and two external. There are jumpers on this
card, and the jumpers select either the internal or the external
connectors. (Which scares the hell out of me, as you'd be passing
3Gigabit per second signals through jumpers ?) But at least this would
be close to the right hardware to use. I just cannot find a good
card with one internal and one external connector.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/CustratingReview.asp?item=N82E16815283005

Note - when using technology like this, it is best to debug it
separate from your main hardware setup. That means, buy two disks,
one external SATA enclosure, the controller card, one internal
SATA cable, one ESATA external cable, and test the setup first.
Become familiar with how it works. Test to be sure no data is
getting lost or corrupted in the process, *before* using your
real data.

Then, at some point, you will be ready to "clone" your current
single hard drive, over to the internal SATA drive. I'm not sure
the software that the SATA disk manufacturer provides, would be
enough to copy the disk over, as you are copying your existing disk,
to the RAID 1 array. So you might need some kind of software solution,
that can image your existing disk, and restore it to a RAID 1 disk.
I'm not really sure of the details there.

Paul
 
I have a HDD in a removable tray. I turn the key on when I want to use it
and turn it off when I don't. I turn it on before a do a back up and off
when finished. My system runs on sata HDD's but this removable one is on
one of the ide channels.
 
Mike G said:
I have a HDD in a removable tray. I turn the key on when I want to use it
and turn it off when I don't. I turn it on before a do a back up and off
when finished. My system runs on sata HDD's but this removable one is on
one of the ide channels.


Paul:
Mike's suggestion is a good one and I believe you would be wise to consider
it. Here's a bit more detailed information about these removable hard
drives.

We're assuming that you're working with a desktop computer case that has at
least one vacant 5 1/4" bay presently available. If so, you could equip that
PC with at least one removable HDD perhaps in addition to the internal HDD
that's already installed. These mobile rack devices that contain a removable
HDD are two-piece affairs - the rack itself and the inner tray or caddy (in
which the hard drive resides) that slides into the rack. They come in
all-aluminum models or a combination of aluminum-plastic ranging in price
from about $15 to $50. Mobile racks come in various versions, depending
upon whether the hard drive to be housed is an IDE/ATA, SATA, or SCSI
device. A Google search for "removable hard drive mobile racks" will result
in a wealth of information on these products and their vendors.

The installation of these devices is simplicity itself - no more difficult
than installing an optical drive. After the rack is installed you just plop
the hard drive into the removable tray (caddy), make two simple connections
(power & data cable), and slide the tray into the mobile rack. Note that the
removable hard drive mobile racks we are discussing are designed to be
installed in desktop computers and not laptop or notebook computers. The
size, weight, and design considerations of laptops/notebooks do not allow
for this hardware configuration.

These mobile racks are nearly always equipped with a ON-OFF keylock, so a
simple turn of the key, in effect, activates the HDD. For added security you
can push or pull the removable tray in or out using the tray's handle and
thus electrically/physically connect or disconnect the HDD from the system.
No more difficult than opening or closing a small desk drawer.

Do you see the enormous advantage of this type of hardware configuration as
it applies to your particular objective? Now you will be able to maintain
your day-to-day working internal HDD "clean", while you install this or that
program on the removable HDD. You can "play around" with all sorts of
configurations on that removable HDD knowing that your "real" HDD is
completely isolated from any problems that may arise. Assuming you have
installed an OS on the removable HDD or (using a disk imaging program)
"cloned" the contents of your present internal HDD to the removable drive,
you can boot to either HDD without the need to enter the BIOS or use a
third-party boot manager. There is no need to modify the boot.ini files.
Each drive is effectively isolated from each other, but if for any reason
you want both drives connected during bootup, you can easily achieve that
configuration as well. It's an ideal system for computing with multiple
operating systems or meeting one's special interests.

Another significant advantage of using a removable HDD is that now you can
have an *unlimited* number of HDDs at your disposal by simply using
additional removable trays to house the drives. So that another important
advantage of using this hardware configuration is that you'll be able to use
another removable HDD as the backup drive for your day-to-day working HDD.

We've worked with these removable hard drive affairs for more than six years
now and have helped hundreds of users install & operate this kind of system.
We have found this hardware arrangement a most desirable configuration for
many users. We've encountered no negative performance issues using these
devices in comparison with internally-installed HDDs and find the
flexibility
and peace of mind you gain from this configuration an enormous advantage.

Do give it some thought.
Anna
 
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