Should I Kill It (Vista) ???

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mark4man

Hello...

Having (so far) two major problems w/ Vista (aside from all that permissions
crapiola):

1) I cannot install Microsoft Streets & Trips

2) When I attempt to install Adobe Illustrator (CS3), I get a message that
reads:

I've done the Windows Installer Clean-Up utility thing (& there are *no*
other Adobe apps running during the installation attempt).

So...

Can these issues be fixed ?

If not...can I still obtain XP Pro (& have it be official; & operable) ?

Thanks,


mark4man
Vista Home Premium
Compaq Presario SR5610F


Note: [a little background...I had previously 'one' PC...as a digital audio
workstation in my recording/mastering studio. It was also connected to the
internet; & I wound up w/ a nasty back-door virus. Dedicated that machine
(on the advice of its mfg.: ADK Pro Audio) as my studio's DAW; & went out &
got the Compaq for the studio's office (& for graphics; the internet,
etc.)...it came w/ Vista...which I sort-of don't like all that well.
Well...I do...I can learn...but not w/o program compatibility w/ the above.]


UPDATE 1: Tried a clean boot reinstall (as dictated by MS Support
site)...that didn't work. Problem is...in the control panel applet under
add/remove programs...a listing for Adobe Illustrator CS3 is appearing...&
WILL NOT uninstall. I've deleted every program file folder & registry entry
related to Illustrator I could find...but it still will not delete.

I also can't use the Adobe *Clean Script* thing...as that deletes ALL CS3
programs at level 1 (save for Reader). I've got Photoshop CS3 on my
machine...as donated to me by my ex-employer. I no longer work for that
firm; & do not want to lose Photoshop. I could move all my Photoshop program
files to an external HD backup...but I do not know how to then back up my
registry (relative to only Photoshop) in order to restore my authorizations
afterward.


UPDATE2: Downloaded & ran CCleaner...attempting to fully uninstall
Illustrator CS3 (as advised by an mvp as the best cleaner/registry editor
utility out there)...which it would not do.

So...(in CCleaner)...first I *renamed* the program entry (from within
CCleaner) & then ran it's registry cleaner (in which case it found tons of
Illustrator entries...which I deleted). Then I attempted to install
Illustrator.

At first, there was no error message as originally stated (cannot install
two Adobe products, ad nauseam)...& it actually started...but it didn't
install in the typical way...the DVD-ROM just ran & ran...& all it did was
to place an Adobe Illustrator CS3 entry back in the damn add/remove programs
applet. But there were no windows that came up indicating an installation in
progress, or anything like that...no program files installed...no program
listing under Start > Programs...nothing but the program listed in
add/remove programs.

So then I *deleted* the program entry from within CCleaner...& the exact
same thing happened...which is, for all intents & purposes...some sort of
partial installation.

Not sure which direction to turn, here.
 
"Can these issues be fixed ?" That would be a question for Adobe support.

"can I still obtain XP Pro" Sure, it's still available for sale here and
there, if you buy it it will be "legal", whether it will work on your system
or not is a different story.

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mark4man said:
Hello...

Having (so far) two major problems w/ Vista (aside from all that
permissions crapiola):

1) I cannot install Microsoft Streets & Trips

2) When I attempt to install Adobe Illustrator (CS3), I get a message that
reads:

I've done the Windows Installer Clean-Up utility thing (& there are *no*
other Adobe apps running during the installation attempt).

So...

Can these issues be fixed ?

If not...can I still obtain XP Pro (& have it be official; & operable) ?

Thanks,


mark4man
Vista Home Premium
Compaq Presario SR5610F


Note: [a little background...I had previously 'one' PC...as a digital
audio workstation in my recording/mastering studio. It was also connected
to the internet; & I wound up w/ a nasty back-door virus. Dedicated that
machine (on the advice of its mfg.: ADK Pro Audio) as my studio's DAW; &
went out & got the Compaq for the studio's office (& for graphics; the
internet, etc.)...it came w/ Vista...which I sort-of don't like all that
well. Well...I do...I can learn...but not w/o program compatibility w/ the
above.]


UPDATE 1: Tried a clean boot reinstall (as dictated by MS Support
site)...that didn't work. Problem is...in the control panel applet under
add/remove programs...a listing for Adobe Illustrator CS3 is appearing...&
WILL NOT uninstall. I've deleted every program file folder & registry
entry related to Illustrator I could find...but it still will not delete.

I also can't use the Adobe *Clean Script* thing...as that deletes ALL CS3
programs at level 1 (save for Reader). I've got Photoshop CS3 on my
machine...as donated to me by my ex-employer. I no longer work for that
firm; & do not want to lose Photoshop. I could move all my Photoshop
program files to an external HD backup...but I do not know how to then
back up my registry (relative to only Photoshop) in order to restore my
authorizations afterward.


UPDATE2: Downloaded & ran CCleaner...attempting to fully uninstall
Illustrator CS3 (as advised by an mvp as the best cleaner/registry editor
utility out there)...which it would not do.

So...(in CCleaner)...first I *renamed* the program entry (from within
CCleaner) & then ran it's registry cleaner (in which case it found tons of
Illustrator entries...which I deleted). Then I attempted to install
Illustrator.

At first, there was no error message as originally stated (cannot install
two Adobe products, ad nauseam)...& it actually started...but it didn't
install in the typical way...the DVD-ROM just ran & ran...& all it did was
to place an Adobe Illustrator CS3 entry back in the damn add/remove
programs applet. But there were no windows that came up indicating an
installation in progress, or anything like that...no program files
installed...no program listing under Start > Programs...nothing but the
program listed in add/remove programs.

So then I *deleted* the program entry from within CCleaner...& the exact
same thing happened...which is, for all intents & purposes...some sort of
partial installation.

Not sure which direction to turn, here.
Click to expand...
 
FWIW, I've got Adobe CS3 installed on my 64-bit Vista and it works well for
me.
But the general rules (for me) are:
If you intend to use new stuff, use Vista
If you intend to use old stuff, don't use Vista

BTW, CS3 is not designed for Vista, CS4 is.

Your problem may be solved by simple reboot.

mark4man said:
Hello...

Having (so far) two major problems w/ Vista (aside from all that
permissions crapiola):

1) I cannot install Microsoft Streets & Trips

2) When I attempt to install Adobe Illustrator (CS3), I get a message that
reads:

I've done the Windows Installer Clean-Up utility thing (& there are *no*
other Adobe apps running during the installation attempt).

So...

Can these issues be fixed ?

If not...can I still obtain XP Pro (& have it be official; & operable) ?

Thanks,


mark4man
Vista Home Premium
Compaq Presario SR5610F


Note: [a little background...I had previously 'one' PC...as a digital
audio workstation in my recording/mastering studio. It was also connected
to the internet; & I wound up w/ a nasty back-door virus. Dedicated that
machine (on the advice of its mfg.: ADK Pro Audio) as my studio's DAW; &
went out & got the Compaq for the studio's office (& for graphics; the
internet, etc.)...it came w/ Vista...which I sort-of don't like all that
well. Well...I do...I can learn...but not w/o program compatibility w/ the
above.]


UPDATE 1: Tried a clean boot reinstall (as dictated by MS Support
site)...that didn't work. Problem is...in the control panel applet under
add/remove programs...a listing for Adobe Illustrator CS3 is appearing...&
WILL NOT uninstall. I've deleted every program file folder & registry
entry related to Illustrator I could find...but it still will not delete.

I also can't use the Adobe *Clean Script* thing...as that deletes ALL CS3
programs at level 1 (save for Reader). I've got Photoshop CS3 on my
machine...as donated to me by my ex-employer. I no longer work for that
firm; & do not want to lose Photoshop. I could move all my Photoshop
program files to an external HD backup...but I do not know how to then
back up my registry (relative to only Photoshop) in order to restore my
authorizations afterward.


UPDATE2: Downloaded & ran CCleaner...attempting to fully uninstall
Illustrator CS3 (as advised by an mvp as the best cleaner/registry editor
utility out there)...which it would not do.

So...(in CCleaner)...first I *renamed* the program entry (from within
CCleaner) & then ran it's registry cleaner (in which case it found tons of
Illustrator entries...which I deleted). Then I attempted to install
Illustrator.

At first, there was no error message as originally stated (cannot install
two Adobe products, ad nauseam)...& it actually started...but it didn't
install in the typical way...the DVD-ROM just ran & ran...& all it did was
to place an Adobe Illustrator CS3 entry back in the damn add/remove
programs applet. But there were no windows that came up indicating an
installation in progress, or anything like that...no program files
installed...no program listing under Start > Programs...nothing but the
program listed in add/remove programs.

So then I *deleted* the program entry from within CCleaner...& the exact
same thing happened...which is, for all intents & purposes...some sort of
partial installation.

Not sure which direction to turn, here.
Click to expand...
 
Dusko said:
FWIW, I've got Adobe CS3 installed on my 64-bit Vista and it works well
for me.
But the general rules (for me) are:
If you intend to use new stuff, use Vista
If you intend to use old stuff, don't use Vista

BTW, CS3 is not designed for Vista, CS4 is.

Your problem may be solved by simple reboot.
Click to expand...
snip...

And I've got CS2 installed on Vista 64 on my notebook, not being one to buy
new software when the old stuff does the job. It works just fine and
presented no installation problems. There seems to be nothing about old
Adobe software as such which prevents it from installing on Vista.
 
Stop reading things into my post. I didn't say it wasn't possible, just may
require some research and legwork, and depending on the OP's computer
knowledge may be beyond his capabilities.
 
That is correct.
A lot of computers have no Vista compatible Drivers written for their
Hardware.
That is why you have to check at manufacturuer's site for XP drivers, before
rushing in to try and install XP on a comp that came pre-loaded with Vista
 
And I've got CS2 installed on Vista 64 on my notebook, not being one to
buy new software when the old stuff does the job. It works just fine and
presented no installation problems. There seems to be nothing about old
Adobe software as such which prevents it from installing on Vista.
Click to expand...

Right on - InDesign CS, Illustrator 10, PhotoShop 5 all running OK on Vista
32

/M
 
Cody Jarrett said:
The "leap of logic" was in your freaking head.

Murphy said in effect that one must check the mfr website to make sure
XP drivers exist before moving forward, because not all Vista
computers have XP drivers written for their hardware.
Click to expand...
No, Mick didn't say that. What he said was:

Mick Murphy said:
That is correct.
A lot of computers have no Vista compatible Drivers written for their
Hardware.
That is why you have to check at manufacturuer's site for XP drivers,
before
rushing in to try and install XP on a comp that came pre-loaded with
Vista
Click to expand...

So, what Mick said was since a lot of computers lack *Vista* drivers,
you should check for *XP* drivers before trying to install XP. Mick
mis-spoke, so Bill's post was technically correct in questioning it
(although it was pretty obvious what he *meant*).
 
Hello...

Having (so far) two major problems w/ Vista (aside from all that permissions
crapiola):

1) I cannot install Microsoft Streets & Trips

2) When I attempt to install Adobe Illustrator (CS3), I get a message that
reads:
Click to expand...

Yes be sure you get the latest versions of the programs
and install as an administrator.

If that fails find someone who knows something about
computers and operating systems.
 
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