Should I flash it or not? 9800 pro with 360 core.

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Newf !!!

I put on my new vga cooler ( best 20 buck investment ever) and while I
was putting it on, sure enough, I have a 360 core.

I'd love to have a better way to monitor the temps. Are their any
other advantages to flashing the 360 to the XT? Higher clocks I can do
manually anyways.

any helpful links ?

And the most important question, disadvantages? how many people
usually **** up the card doing this? I'm not a computer idiot, been
doing this for many years so the process doesn't scare me. As long as
I can back the old first, and have a pci card handy if there's
troubles, I might just try this unless there is a reason why I
shouldn't?
 
Newf said:
I put on my new vga cooler ( best 20 buck investment ever) and while I
was putting it on, sure enough, I have a 360 core.

I'd love to have a better way to monitor the temps. Are their any
other advantages to flashing the 360 to the XT? Higher clocks I can do
manually anyways.

any helpful links ?

And the most important question, disadvantages? how many people
usually **** up the card doing this? I'm not a computer idiot, been
doing this for many years so the process doesn't scare me. As long as
I can back the old first, and have a pci card handy if there's
troubles, I might just try this unless there is a reason why I
shouldn't?
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In my view it is not worth the potential of breaking the card.
regards
@ndrew
 
Newf !!! said:
I put on my new vga cooler ( best 20 buck investment ever) and while I
was putting it on, sure enough, I have a 360 core.

I'd love to have a better way to monitor the temps. Are their any
other advantages to flashing the 360 to the XT? Higher clocks I can do
manually anyways.

any helpful links ?

And the most important question, disadvantages? how many people
usually **** up the card doing this? I'm not a computer idiot, been
doing this for many years so the process doesn't scare me. As long as
I can back the old first, and have a pci card handy if there's
troubles, I might just try this unless there is a reason why I
shouldn't?
Click to expand...


Just because you have a 360 core does not mean that you can monitor
temperature. The temperature sensor is actually not on the GPU. It is
another component on the board. If your board does not have that sensor,
you will not be able to monitor temperature even if you flash the bios.

If you successfully flash the bios, the performance will increase even at
the same clock rate. This is because of hardware capabilities of 360 that
only the XT bios can unleash.

The possibility of screwing up DOES exist, specially if you have a 128MB
card. Either way, the possibility exists.

http://forums.ocfaq.com/showthread.php?s=6df10451514fb680e65960e119e1e055&t=1524&page=2&pp=25

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=270479
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17229146
 
This is something I've been wondering about, too. There are two PCB designs
for the 9800 Pro. The new design looks like a copy of the 9800XT:
low-profile VGA connector, no weenie heat sinks on the power regulation
components, shrouded GPU heat sink. It must be the new PCB design that has
the thermal sensor.

....though if the sensor is not on the GPU, how accurate can it be?

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Navid said:
Just because you have a 360 core does not mean that you can monitor
temperature. The temperature sensor is actually not on the GPU. It is
another component on the board. If your board does not have that sensor,
you will not be able to monitor temperature even if you flash the bios.
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First of One said:
This is something I've been wondering about, too. There are two PCB
designs
for the 9800 Pro. The new design looks like a copy of the 9800XT:
low-profile VGA connector, no weenie heat sinks on the power regulation
components, shrouded GPU heat sink. It must be the new PCB design that has
the thermal sensor.

...though if the sensor is not on the GPU, how accurate can it be?
Click to expand...

My knowledge on this is not first hand. In other words, I have neither of
these boards.
Your point on the position of the sensor and its effect on the accuracy of
the temperature is correct.

To monitor temperature, several tasks need to be executed. First, a
temperature-sensitive component must exist. Preferably right on the chip.
A basic temperature sensor is a resistor whose resistance is a function of
temperature.

The second task is to take this resistance, which represents temperature,
and convert it to a digital number. Lets call this a converter.

May be it is the converter that is on the board of 9800 XT and some of the
9800 pros. As you pointed out, the sensor (thermistor) must be on the 360
core. But, without the converter, the whole thing is useless.
 
Howdy,
I decided to put better compound (Ceramique, follow their instructions!)
underneath the Radeon cooler and noticed I had the R360 core also, with the
Samsung 2.8 memory. I also have the Vantec slot cooler next to it and added
copper heat sinks to all the ram chips. Rather than flash the bios, I just
upped the clock/memory timings to XT speeds (412/365) to see the if it was
stable. Completely stable. Increased 3dMark2003 from 5600 to 6200. And I
have the slot cooler on medium speed to keep the noise down.

Abit IC7-Max 3
Antec True 480 PS
Intel 3.0c (running stock, currently)
2x256mb Geil PC4000
ATI 9800 Pro 128mb (Sapphire)
2x WD 37GB Raptor
SB 5.1 Audigy
WinXP Pro
Lite On DVD 16x
NEC 2510A DVD/RW

Carl
 
Is this the slot cooler with the "squirrelcage" fan? I found the thing moved
about 1/5 the CFMs Vantec advertised. After a while the plastic frame warped
and began to vibrate in its slot bracket, making annoying noises.
 
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