should have written 'sticky disc surface after printing'

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Posted this earlier but not getting any replies, I realised the
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on my ip4000 I usually get reasonable results on printing directly to
disc. This time I got a batch of Datawrite Titanium discs, both dvd-r
full face
and cd-r full face. The dvd are fine but the cdrs have a slightly
tacky feeling to them even a day after printing. I am not sure that
this is anything to do with inks but with the surface of the disc. I'm
just wondering if anyone else has noticed this and whether it has any
drawbacks, like is the ink REALLY still not dry or is it something to
do with the surface which makes it feel that way?
 
Posted this earlier but not getting any replies, I realised the
subject may have looked like I had posted to the wrong group.

on my ip4000 I usually get reasonable results on printing directly to
disc. This time I got a batch of Datawrite Titanium discs, both dvd-r
full face
and cd-r full face. The dvd are fine but the cdrs have a slightly
tacky feeling to them even a day after printing. I am not sure that
this is anything to do with inks but with the surface of the disc. I'm
just wondering if anyone else has noticed this and whether it has any
drawbacks, like is the ink REALLY still not dry or is it something to
do with the surface which makes it feel that way?

Canon may not be compatible with some CD-Rs. I know that other people
have had issues with Canon and the Verbatim Silver Printable CD-Rs.
The stacks of Verbatim printable discs (CDs and DVDs) all have a photo
fo the R220 on them, so I suspect that the coating is formulated to
work specifically with Epson printers. If you have a friend who has an
Epson printer, you may want to test it on theirs (or see if a local
store has an R340/R320 on display with ink in it - bring a memory card
with test images on it). If it still comes out tacky, I'd return the
discs.

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Fenrir said:
Canon may not be compatible with some CD-Rs. I know that other people
have had issues with Canon and the Verbatim Silver Printable CD-Rs.
The stacks of Verbatim printable discs (CDs and DVDs) all have a photo
fo the R220 on them, so I suspect that the coating is formulated to
work specifically with Epson printers. If you have a friend who has an
Epson printer, you may want to test it on theirs (or see if a local
store has an R340/R320 on display with ink in it - bring a memory card
with test images on it). If it still comes out tacky, I'd return the
discs.

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Most of that could be difficult for me for a number of reasons, but I
am waiting to see how they do after a day or two. I don't know how the
company react to these complaints (online purchase) but I might see if
I can email them about my concerns.
 
I use a ip5000 and Datawrite and some from JR inkjet, must say thos
JR ones are good

I was wondering if it's the ink drying time setting, it's a slider i
Custum Settings in the printers maintenance window, what the effec
of this is I have never played with, can't say if the ip4000 has thi
facility.

The ink brand could will have some effect in the drying time I woul
have thought, something I've never compared so I could be wrong

Oh, and my CD's have a tacky feeling for maybe a couple of hours o
more even, but they'er not smudgy though

Dav
 
Davy said:
I use a ip5000 and Datawrite and some from JR inkjet, must say those
JR ones are good.

I was wondering if it's the ink drying time setting, it's a slider in
Custum Settings in the printers maintenance window, what the effect
of this is I have never played with, can't say if the ip4000 has this
facility.

The ink brand could will have some effect in the drying time I would
have thought, something I've never compared so I could be wrong.

Oh, and my CD's have a tacky feeling for maybe a couple of hours or
more even, but they'er not smudgy though.

Davy

Hi Davy, I searched but couldn't find any ink drying setting on the
4000. Now they have had a couple of days they seem pretty dry, so I am
going to assume that they're just not very quick at the job. Strange
how two sets of discs from the same company can be so different
though. Maybe they don't concern themselves with quality on cd-r as
much as dvd-r.

Just curious, are your datawrite the discs with the blue paper with
yellow writing on the outer container? I got those first but the
quality of the physical disc structure seems pretty shoddy. Edges look
rough and the very edge of the silver layer looks dodgy too.
 
Paul said:
Hi Davy, I searched but couldn't find any ink drying setting on the
4000. Now they have had a couple of days they seem pretty dry, so I am
going to assume that they're just not very quick at the job. Strange
how two sets of discs from the same company can be so different
though. Maybe they don't concern themselves with quality on cd-r as
much as dvd-r.

Just curious, are your datawrite the discs with the blue paper with
yellow writing on the outer container? I got those first but the
quality of the physical disc structure seems pretty shoddy. Edges look
rough and the very edge of the silver layer looks dodgy too.

For CDR quality, the most reliable disks appear to be Taiyo Yuden, a
real manufacturer (as opposed to many retail brands like Sony, Fuji,
Maxell, TDK, etc., which may or may not be who they claim to be). TY
makes printable disks, which I have, but won't feed through my HP printer.

Richard
 
Richard said:
For CDR quality, the most reliable disks appear to be Taiyo Yuden, a
real manufacturer (as opposed to many retail brands like Sony, Fuji,
Maxell, TDK, etc., which may or may not be who they claim to be). TY
makes printable disks, which I have, but won't feed through my HP printer.

Richard

I know to some they are number one but I have to remain cost
conscious, sadly.
 
Paul said:
Richard Steinfeld wrote:




I know to some they are number one but I have to remain cost
conscious, sadly.

They seem to only be available in bulk; the cost to me for 100 printable
ones was about 39 cents each. The advantages, of course, are
dependability, durability, longevity, and dimensional accuracy (unlike
my genuine Sony CDRs, which wobble in players, thus skipping). I've
found these convenient for writing on with water-based pens.

Now, one can indeed make use of less-costly disks when there's no need
for anything approaching archival quality. This approach can be useful,
for example, for backups only needed for the short term, or data to be
retained for perhaps two years. But off-center disks with oversized
holes like my Sonys require a high-quality, perfectly stable playback
machine with an integral disk clamp; anything less, like my Hyundai car
stereo or my RCA CD alarm clock are sloppy machines in their own right
-- the combination is pretty poor.

Richard
 
Richard said:
They seem to only be available in bulk; the cost to me for 100 printable
ones was about 39 cents each. The advantages, of course, are
dependability, durability, longevity, and dimensional accuracy (unlike
my genuine Sony CDRs, which wobble in players, thus skipping). I've
found these convenient for writing on with water-based pens.

Now, one can indeed make use of less-costly disks when there's no need
for anything approaching archival quality. This approach can be useful,
for example, for backups only needed for the short term, or data to be
retained for perhaps two years. But off-center disks with oversized
holes like my Sonys require a high-quality, perfectly stable playback
machine with an integral disk clamp; anything less, like my Hyundai car
stereo or my RCA CD alarm clock are sloppy machines in their own right
-- the combination is pretty poor.

Richard

Yeah, I know when logic comes into it we should always go for the
best, and sometimes I almost make the plunge, but in general in the UK
it's like a 40-50%
difference between TY and other brands. I know as a dvd user I really
should take the plunge.
 
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