Shared Calendar/Contacts - WITHOUT Exchange? Small Environment

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With Outlook 2003, is there anyway to share a calendar and contacts for a
small office of 8 people without running Exchange on their file and print
server? I hate the idea of running exchange on the same server as F&P.

Thoughts/suggestions/Experiences?

Thanks!!

Steve
 
Take a look here, it may help:
http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/share.htm


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After furious head scratching, (e-mail address removed) asked:

| With Outlook 2003, is there anyway to share a calendar and contacts
| for a small office of 8 people without running Exchange on their file
| and print server? I hate the idea of running exchange on the same
| server as F&P.
|
| Thoughts/suggestions/Experiences?
|
| Thanks!!
|
| Steve
 
Hi Milly!

Thanks for the response. Is that they only way to do it? Third party utils?
Any experience with your recommendations? How well do they work? What are
your thoughts on running SBS with Exchange? I always hated the idea of
running exchange on the same box with F&P - especially if all they need is
shared contacts and calendars. Outlook is being popped out to a third-party
provider for mail, and it works quite well.
Please advise.

Thanks!
 
You could always use a third party hosted Exchange solution if you are used
to paying for outside mail hosting. There are several available for a
reasonable cost, especially if you do not want the potential hassle of
maintaining an Exchange server. See google for this list if it wraps too
badly:
http://www.google.com/search?source...,GGLD:en&q=hosted+microsoft+exchange+services

However, noting your company's size, SBS, configured and installed by an OEM
or Microsoft Partner, couls be the answer you want. It is relatively
inexpensive (software-wise) but you may need to buy another server. I know
that many Dell servers cost less than $1000 and are quite beefy for this
job.

As for the third party add-ins, no, I have not tried any as I run an
Exchange server here at home (yeah, I know...) so I have no need for any
add-ins.


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After furious head scratching, (e-mail address removed) asked:

| Hi Milly!
|
| Thanks for the response. Is that they only way to do it? Third party
| utils? Any experience with your recommendations? How well do they
| work? What are your thoughts on running SBS with Exchange? I always
| hated the idea of running exchange on the same box with F&P -
| especially if all they need is shared contacts and calendars.
| Outlook is being popped out to a third-party provider for mail, and
| it works quite well.
| Please advise.
|
| Thanks!
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|
|| Take a look here, it may help:
|| http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/share.htm
||
||
|| --Â
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After furious head scratching, (e-mail address removed) asked:
||
||| With Outlook 2003, is there anyway to share a calendar and contacts
||| for a small office of 8 people without running Exchange on their
||| file and print server? I hate the idea of running exchange on the
||| same server as F&P.
|||
||| Thoughts/suggestions/Experiences?
|||
||| Thanks!!
|||
||| Steve
 
Hi Steve,

On this site is an article on various ways to share Outlook data without
Exchange:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/HA011477571033.aspx

--
Oliver Vukovics
Share Outlook without Exchange: Public ShareFolder
Notebook Synchronisation for Outlook: Public SyncTool
http://www.publicshareware.com


Hi Milly!

Thanks for the response. Is that they only way to do it? Third party
utils?
Any experience with your recommendations? How well do they work? What are
your thoughts on running SBS with Exchange? I always hated the idea of
running exchange on the same box with F&P - especially if all they need is
shared contacts and calendars. Outlook is being popped out to a
third-party
provider for mail, and it works quite well.
Please advise.

Thanks!

Milly Staples said:
Take a look here, it may help:
http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/share.htm


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After furious head scratching, (e-mail address removed) asked:

| With Outlook 2003, is there anyway to share a calendar and contacts
| for a small office of 8 people without running Exchange on their file
| and print server? I hate the idea of running exchange on the same
| server as F&P.
|
| Thoughts/suggestions/Experiences?
|
| Thanks!!
|
| Steve
 
Hi Milly!

Thanks for the response! Well we are a small integrator, certified in Cisco,
CCNA, MCP, do cross platform integration, disaster recovery, business
continuity etc. inclusive of virtualization. Just haven't had the oppty to
work with Exchange as of yet. I imagine I would be able to pull it off, by
approaching it the same way we do everything which is to test the heck out of
it. But I am unclear on a few things such as how to have the mail server
send and receive mail externally. Also a bit concerned about this particular
client. They are a bit difficult to deal with and wouldn't understand
reoccurring fees for Exchange maintenance/admin etc. We also have done a lot
of enterprise level solutions - and perhaps that is why I am not thrilled
about placing Exchange on the same box as file and print which would also be
their only DC, running DHCP and DNS. What do you think? Any killer right to
the point resources for getting up to the speed would also be welcome!
Just looked at Open-xchange which looks amazing (runs on Linux),

Thanks!!!!


Milly Staples said:
You could always use a third party hosted Exchange solution if you are used
to paying for outside mail hosting. There are several available for a
reasonable cost, especially if you do not want the potential hassle of
maintaining an Exchange server. See google for this list if it wraps too
badly:
http://www.google.com/search?source...,GGLD:en&q=hosted+microsoft+exchange+services

However, noting your company's size, SBS, configured and installed by an OEM
or Microsoft Partner, couls be the answer you want. It is relatively
inexpensive (software-wise) but you may need to buy another server. I know
that many Dell servers cost less than $1000 and are quite beefy for this
job.

As for the third party add-ins, no, I have not tried any as I run an
Exchange server here at home (yeah, I know...) so I have no need for any
add-ins.


--Â
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After furious head scratching, (e-mail address removed) asked:

| Hi Milly!
|
| Thanks for the response. Is that they only way to do it? Third party
| utils? Any experience with your recommendations? How well do they
| work? What are your thoughts on running SBS with Exchange? I always
| hated the idea of running exchange on the same box with F&P -
| especially if all they need is shared contacts and calendars.
| Outlook is being popped out to a third-party provider for mail, and
| it works quite well.
| Please advise.
|
| Thanks!
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|
|| Take a look here, it may help:
|| http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/share.htm
||
||
|| --ÂÂ
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After furious head scratching, (e-mail address removed) asked:
||
||| With Outlook 2003, is there anyway to share a calendar and contacts
||| for a small office of 8 people without running Exchange on their
||| file and print server? I hate the idea of running exchange on the
||| same server as F&P.
|||
||| Thoughts/suggestions/Experiences?
|||
||| Thanks!!
|||
||| Steve
 
Oliver:

Thanks sooo much for the info! Have you any first hand experience with any
of your recommendations? Generally when we make a recommendation - it is rock
solid and I would like us to maintain that track record. What can you tell
me - my friend?

Regards

Steve

Oliver Vukovics said:
Hi Steve,

On this site is an article on various ways to share Outlook data without
Exchange:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/HA011477571033.aspx

--
Oliver Vukovics
Share Outlook without Exchange: Public ShareFolder
Notebook Synchronisation for Outlook: Public SyncTool
http://www.publicshareware.com


Hi Milly!

Thanks for the response. Is that they only way to do it? Third party
utils?
Any experience with your recommendations? How well do they work? What are
your thoughts on running SBS with Exchange? I always hated the idea of
running exchange on the same box with F&P - especially if all they need is
shared contacts and calendars. Outlook is being popped out to a
third-party
provider for mail, and it works quite well.
Please advise.

Thanks!

Milly Staples said:
Take a look here, it may help:
http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/share.htm


--Â
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After furious head scratching, (e-mail address removed) asked:

| With Outlook 2003, is there anyway to share a calendar and contacts
| for a small office of 8 people without running Exchange on their file
| and print server? I hate the idea of running exchange on the same
| server as F&P.
|
| Thoughts/suggestions/Experiences?
|
| Thanks!!
|
| Steve
 
Hi Steve,

we are the developers of one of the listed programs (Public Sharefolder) so
the question what we recommend can have only one answer ;-),
but here is also a link what ZDNet UK recommend and with a lot of customers
commands:
http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/software/internet/0,39024168,10004529,00.htm

To recommend a solution is also question about the customer requirement. The
listed "shared" solutions on slipstick are very different in the technology.
Some solutions are email based synchronization programs (like NetFolders)
and with a "large volume" of data (maybe 1 GB as central PST file) and with
10 users, a synchronization via email will take a long time. This sharing
solutions don´t support "live" shared information in your network. All
informations are updated after a synchronization so after an adjusted time
range. Also "newer" information overwrite older information. If 2 users will
change the same item with different information, the "newer" one overwrite
complete the older one and this is an additional risk for shared
information. You will lost information if one user can overwrite another
updated information.
Other programs are based on shared/synchronized access databases. The
access database replaces a PST file.

A benefit of the email based synchronization tools is, that users in
different locations don´t need a VPN connection or a "server" to update a
shared calendar or if only a few people wants to work with a simple
"sharing" solution with small traffik.

Only 2 solutions on the slipstick website can share a PST file "live"
without synchronization. It is a real live access to a shared central PST
file and they are real "Store Provider" like Exchange Server or Lotus Notes.
The don´t synchronize the items, they can write and read into a central PST
file.

Microsoft say that it is not supported to have network PST files, but this
live shared PST tools don´t use a network PST file, because the PST file is
local on the "server" and only the software have a connection over the
network, so this point of Microsoft does not belongs to this tools.

The benefit of our software is that we can share additional PST files. As
one of the largest installation we have a user with 150 clients and 30
central chared PST files and 20GB central store. Try to do this with a
"share" synchronization program.

Another solution is the MSN Hotmail account (Outlook live). This is also a
synchronization solution because you have to sync your information (not
stored in a PST file) to MSN. My meaning is, at first I would never store
our company information over a MSN account and you also have to move all
information in this account to a local PST file to get a local backup. The
benefit of this solution is that you don´t need an Exchange Server and that
you don´t have any parts of administration or to support a server. You will
get a problem if MSN will be not Online or if they would delete your acount.
:-)

I hope my meaning was helpfull. What we/I recommend as an alternative to
Exchange for Small Medium Size companies can have only one answer, our
product, but my meaning is not independent. ;-)

--
Oliver
Share Outlook without Exchange: Public ShareFolder
Notebook Synchronisation for Outlook: Public SyncTool
http://www.publicshareware.com


Oliver:

Thanks sooo much for the info! Have you any first hand experience with
any
of your recommendations? Generally when we make a recommendation - it is
rock
solid and I would like us to maintain that track record. What can you
tell
me - my friend?

Regards

Steve

Oliver Vukovics said:
Hi Steve,

On this site is an article on various ways to share Outlook data without
Exchange:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/HA011477571033.aspx

--
Oliver Vukovics
Share Outlook without Exchange: Public ShareFolder
Notebook Synchronisation for Outlook: Public SyncTool
http://www.publicshareware.com


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Hi Milly!

Thanks for the response. Is that they only way to do it? Third party
utils?
Any experience with your recommendations? How well do they work? What
are
your thoughts on running SBS with Exchange? I always hated the idea of
running exchange on the same box with F&P - especially if all they need
is
shared contacts and calendars. Outlook is being popped out to a
third-party
provider for mail, and it works quite well.
Please advise.

Thanks!

:

Take a look here, it may help:
http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/share.htm


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After furious head scratching, (e-mail address removed) asked:

| With Outlook 2003, is there anyway to share a calendar and contacts
| for a small office of 8 people without running Exchange on their
file
| and print server? I hate the idea of running exchange on the same
| server as F&P.
|
| Thoughts/suggestions/Experiences?
|
| Thanks!!
|
| Steve
 
Hi Oliver:

Sorry - been busy working on updating my CCNA amoung other things.
Ok - I will hit your company's site and check it out. Is there phone
support? Pricing on site as well? I would imagine there is also an online
demo - correct? I guess the difficult decision would be - if a client is
willing to pay for exchange should we go that route? I am not fond of having
exchange running on the same server as File and Print, dhcp, the only DC etc.
Thoughts/opinions?

Thanks!


Hi Milly!

Thanks for the response! Well we are a small integrator, certified in Cisco,
CCNA, MCP, do cross platform integration, disaster recovery, business
continuity etc. inclusive of virtualization. Just haven't had the oppty to
work with Exchange as of yet. I imagine I would be able to pull it off, by
approaching it the same way we do everything which is to test the heck out of
it. But I am unclear on a few things such as how to have the mail server
send and receive mail externally. Also a bit concerned about this particular
client. They are a bit difficult to deal with and wouldn't understand
reoccurring fees for Exchange maintenance/admin etc. We also have done a lot
of enterprise level solutions - and perhaps that is why I am not thrilled
about placing Exchange on the same box as file and print which would also be
their only DC, running DHCP and DNS. What do you think? Any killer right to
the point resources for getting up to the speed would also be welcome!
Just looked at Open-xchange which looks amazing (runs on Linux),

Thanks!!!!


Milly Staples said:
You could always use a third party hosted Exchange solution if you are used
to paying for outside mail hosting. There are several available for a
reasonable cost, especially if you do not want the potential hassle of
maintaining an Exchange server. See google for this list if it wraps too
badly:
http://www.google.com/search?source...,GGLD:en&q=hosted+microsoft+exchange+services

However, noting your company's size, SBS, configured and installed by an OEM
or Microsoft Partner, couls be the answer you want. It is relatively
inexpensive (software-wise) but you may need to buy another server. I know
that many Dell servers cost less than $1000 and are quite beefy for this
job.

As for the third party add-ins, no, I have not tried any as I run an
Exchange server here at home (yeah, I know...) so I have no need for any
add-ins.


--Â
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After furious head scratching, (e-mail address removed) asked:

| Hi Milly!
|
| Thanks for the response. Is that they only way to do it? Third party
| utils? Any experience with your recommendations? How well do they
| work? What are your thoughts on running SBS with Exchange? I always
| hated the idea of running exchange on the same box with F&P -
| especially if all they need is shared contacts and calendars.
| Outlook is being popped out to a third-party provider for mail, and
| it works quite well.
| Please advise.
|
| Thanks!
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|
|| Take a look here, it may help:
|| http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/share.htm
||
||
|| --ÂÂ
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After furious head scratching, (e-mail address removed) asked:
||
||| With Outlook 2003, is there anyway to share a calendar and contacts
||| for a small office of 8 people without running Exchange on their
||| file and print server? I hate the idea of running exchange on the
||| same server as F&P.
|||
||| Thoughts/suggestions/Experiences?
|||
||| Thanks!!
|||
||| Steve
 
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