Setting up a LAN

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Greetings Experts,

I have bought a Samsung NetBook and am now setting it up in a network
with the old AL440LX box = Box2. Both computers are on the Internet
but they are in separate rooms and they don't recognize one another
although they are connected via cable with a router. A D-Link DSL modem
connects both to the Internet. I have no interest in wireless.

The NetBook is near where the phone service enters the house and that's
where the DSL modem is located. It is connected to the NetBook via a USB
cable. I am having trouble with the Windows 7 (cut down, of course) on
the NetBook. I had no experience of this OS before and I had reached the
point with the NetBook of inputting the requested "8-digit pin from the
router" but I found that it (the router) had 4 letters and 5 numbers. It
refused to accept the letters.

The router is also a D-Link and it is near Box2 and connected to it with
an Ethernet cable.

I tried to setup a Workgroup with one user on the NetBook and I noticed
that it already had the username JD-PC setup for me (I hope) and a group
called the Workgroup. In Control Panel | System Properties of Win2K I
setup Workgroup and the computer name Box2. JD is already registered as
an admin in Box2.

I guess I can't get a connection unless the letters on the modem turn
into numbers. Anyone have that magic touch?

TIA

Have a great week :-)
 
JD said:
Greetings Experts,

I have bought a Samsung NetBook and am now setting it up in a network
with the old AL440LX box = Box2. Both computers are on the Internet
but they are in separate rooms and they don't recognize one another
although they are connected via cable with a router. A D-Link DSL modem
connects both to the Internet. I have no interest in wireless.

The NetBook is near where the phone service enters the house and that's
where the DSL modem is located. It is connected to the NetBook via a USB
cable. I am having trouble with the Windows 7 (cut down, of course) on
the NetBook. I had no experience of this OS before and I had reached the
point with the NetBook of inputting the requested "8-digit pin from the
router" but I found that it (the router) had 4 letters and 5 numbers. It
refused to accept the letters.

The router is also a D-Link and it is near Box2 and connected to it with
an Ethernet cable.

I tried to setup a Workgroup with one user on the NetBook and I noticed
that it already had the username JD-PC setup for me (I hope) and a group
called the Workgroup. In Control Panel | System Properties of Win2K I
setup Workgroup and the computer name Box2. JD is already registered as
an admin in Box2.

I guess I can't get a connection unless the letters on the modem turn
into numbers. Anyone have that magic touch?

TIA

Have a great week :-)
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I guess I'd probably start with something simple, like "ping".

At least get the IP addresses from each computer, to understand
what's happening with respect to the router.

For example, in a Command Prompt window, I could try "ipconfig"
to get the IP address of that computer. Knowing both IP addresses,
I could use the ping command, with the address of the other computer
as the passed parameter.

ping 192.168.1.2

Also, for monitoring within each PC, you can use a program like
Wireshark (or any other promiscuous receiver program that can
sniff packets).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireshark

The System Requirements (i.e. OS version) is listed here. Perhaps the
older Ethereal package is available for older OSes. I don't know if I
have any copies of it around here now.

http://www.wireshark.org/docs/wsug_html_chunked/ChIntroPlatforms.html

Staring at workgroups and the like, is for after you've determined
the boxes can actually see one another. For example, some protocols
may be stopped by any Firewalls you're using (Windows Firewall). When
I wanted to turn on Simple File Sharing here, I noticed that WinXP
reconfigured the firewall, presumably to punch holes for the appropriate
port numbers. Microsoft added a pronounced delay, for dramatic effect :-)
I would have expected adding a couple rules to a Firewall, to take
a fraction of a second.

Paul
 
JD said:
Greetings Experts,

I have bought a Samsung NetBook and am now setting it up in a network
with the old AL440LX box = Box2. Both computers are on the Internet
but they are in separate rooms and they don't recognize one another
although they are connected via cable with a router. A D-Link DSL modem
connects both to the Internet. I have no interest in wireless.

The NetBook is near where the phone service enters the house and that's
where the DSL modem is located. It is connected to the NetBook via a USB
cable. I am having trouble with the Windows 7 (cut down, of course) on
the NetBook. I had no experience of this OS before and I had reached the
point with the NetBook of inputting the requested "8-digit pin from the
router" but I found that it (the router) had 4 letters and 5 numbers. It
refused to accept the letters.

The router is also a D-Link and it is near Box2 and connected to it with
an Ethernet cable.

I tried to setup a Workgroup with one user on the NetBook and I noticed
that it already had the username JD-PC setup for me (I hope) and a group
called the Workgroup. In Control Panel | System Properties of Win2K I
setup Workgroup and the computer name Box2. JD is already registered as
an admin in Box2.

I guess I can't get a connection unless the letters on the modem turn
into numbers. Anyone have that magic touch?
Click to expand...

I am not a network experted but have been able to make all wired and
wireless computers be able to talk and sharing data to each other at some
point. IOW, I have upgraded the router few times and not always have the
same set up. So I will try to give you the general info to try, and hoping
someone with more networking knowledge will fill the gap. Or I can only be
able to share my limited experience.

In order for the computers to see each other you will have to

1. Set up or create a NETWORK (like HOME Network). Then you may have to
follow other permissions like

a. Adding the Network name to Firewall setting. I don't know other but
ZoneAlarm detects and asks me to confirm or type in the name

b. Adding drive, folder etc. whatever you want to SHARING permission

2. I have only setup to share something at home so I never set up PASSWORD
to know much about PASSWORD

3. And I have to create/add the SAME NETWORK name and other information to
all computers I want to share the Home Network.

Quite afew time I can't get them to recognize each other, and they later
worked fine without changing anything. When looking at the network, the
NAMES (computer names) should appear in the connected or available members
(computers).

For more detail and trouble shooting then you will need more help from the
expert.
 
Paul said:
I guess I'd probably start with something simple, like "ping".

At least get the IP addresses from each computer, to understand
what's happening with respect to the router.

For example, in a Command Prompt window, I could try "ipconfig"
to get the IP address of that computer. Knowing both IP addresses,
I could use the ping command, with the address of the other computer
as the passed parameter.

ping 192.168.1.2

Also, for monitoring within each PC, you can use a program like
Wireshark (or any other promiscuous receiver program that can
sniff packets).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireshark

The System Requirements (i.e. OS version) is listed here. Perhaps the
older Ethereal package is available for older OSes. I don't know if I
have any copies of it around here now.

http://www.wireshark.org/docs/wsug_html_chunked/ChIntroPlatforms.html

Staring at workgroups and the like, is for after you've determined
the boxes can actually see one another. For example, some protocols
may be stopped by any Firewalls you're using (Windows Firewall). When
I wanted to turn on Simple File Sharing here, I noticed that WinXP
reconfigured the firewall, presumably to punch holes for the appropriate
port numbers. Microsoft added a pronounced delay, for dramatic effect :-)
I would have expected adding a couple rules to a Firewall, to take
a fraction of a second.

Paul
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Thanks again Paul.

Curiously I have very rarely had problems with
firewalls when I setup OSs
and I have done that dozens of times. I have
mostly used Zone Alarm and
Kerio Personal.

I have the system set up on my main computer and I
still have work
on the NetBook. There is a very clear and helpful
manual available at
http://laureldsl.net/pdf/D-Link 2320B UserManual.pdf
I suggest you download a copy and I believe you
will like it.
It goes very nicely through the
http://192.168.1.1, etc.

I dislike Windows 7 and want to install my Win2K
as soon as possible. The drive on the NetBook is
divided into C: and D: and Windows 7 (stripped
somewhat) is on C:. I'll leave it like that for
the moment. This is going to be a bit of trouble.
I have Win2K on a CD and I don't have an
independent CD-Player. I'm thinking of copying the
CD to a hard drive, putting that into an external
drive, and copying from there to the D: drive.
Finally, installing it with the updates.

It would be much easier, if I could hitch the
NetBook directly to my computer and copy
the CD from my computer straight to the NetBook D:
drive. I think that would call for a special cable.

More soon :-)
 
Joel said:
I am not a network experted but have been able to make all wired and
wireless computers be able to talk and sharing data to each other at some
point. IOW, I have upgraded the router few times and not always have the
same set up. So I will try to give you the general info to try, and hoping
someone with more networking knowledge will fill the gap. Or I can only be
able to share my limited experience.

In order for the computers to see each other you will have to

1. Set up or create a NETWORK (like HOME Network). Then you may have to
follow other permissions like

a. Adding the Network name to Firewall setting. I don't know other but
ZoneAlarm detects and asks me to confirm or type in the name

b. Adding drive, folder etc. whatever you want to SHARING permission

2. I have only setup to share something at home so I never set up PASSWORD
to know much about PASSWORD

3. And I have to create/add the SAME NETWORK name and other information to
all computers I want to share the Home Network.

Quite afew time I can't get them to recognize each other, and they later
worked fine without changing anything. When looking at the network, the
NAMES (computer names) should appear in the connected or available members
(computers).

For more detail and trouble shooting then you will need more help from the
expert.
Click to expand...

Thanks Joel for your comments. The following link
has a good explanation
of setting up this LAN:
http://laureldsl.net/pdf/D-Link 2320B UserManual.pdf


I have the same attitude to passwords as you.
Blanks are the very best :-) Also, see my comments
to Paul above and I'll be back with some more soon.

Enjoy your week :-)
 
JD said:
Thanks Joel for your comments. The following link
has a good explanation
of setting up this LAN:
http://laureldsl.net/pdf/D-Link 2320B UserManual.pdf
Click to expand...

Thanks for the link. I don't have good memory so I often Google whenever
I need
I have the same attitude to passwords as you.
Blanks are the very best :-) Also, see my comments
to Paul above and I'll be back with some more soon.

Enjoy your week :-)
Click to expand...

If it's possible then I too leave everything BLANK
 
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