Set up External Drive on Network

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Mel

How do I set up a Seagate 300GB external drive (ST3300601CB-RK) on a
home network?

I have a notebook (wireless) and three desktops (wired) hooked up to a
WGT624 Netgear router.

I can use the 300GB drive just plugged into one computer as always, but
it would be handy to have the drive easily available to all the
computers by having it available on the network.

Is this possible?

Thanks,

Mel
 
Previously Mel said:
How do I set up a Seagate 300GB external drive (ST3300601CB-RK) on a
home network?
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What do you want to do?
I have a notebook (wireless) and three desktops (wired) hooked up to a
WGT624 Netgear router.
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I can use the 300GB drive just plugged into one computer as always, but
it would be handy to have the drive easily available to all the
computers by having it available on the network.
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I see.
Is this possible?
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Yes, but the level of difficulty depends on the OS. Also the computer
with the drive should be allways on. For some OSes (MS...) that may
be a problem in itself. If it is Linux. FreeBSD or the like, just do an
NFS export and block NFS at your router. Wor Winsows, you can share the
drive. Don't quite know how, but it cannot be too difficult. Probably
a drive property.

Arno
 
Mel said:
How do I set up a Seagate 300GB external
drive (ST3300601CB-RK) on a home network?
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Basically have it on one of the PCs on the network.
I have a notebook (wireless) and three desktops
(wired) hooked up to a WGT624 Netgear router.
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There are a few devices around that allow you to plug an
external drive into them, which just appear as a network device.
I can use the 300GB drive just plugged into one computer as
always, but it would be handy to have the drive easily available
to all the computers by having it available on the network.
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Is this possible?
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Yes, but in many ways its a lot simpler to just leave one of the
desktops on all the time and have the external drive on that.
 
Mel said:
How do I set up a Seagate 300GB external drive (ST3300601CB-RK) on a
home network?

I have a notebook (wireless) and three desktops (wired) hooked up to a
WGT624 Netgear router.

I can use the 300GB drive just plugged into one computer as always, but
it would be handy to have the drive easily available to all the
computers by having it available on the network.
Click to expand...
 
Mel said:
How do I set up a Seagate 300GB external drive (ST3300601CB-RK) on a
home network?

I have a notebook (wireless) and three desktops (wired) hooked up to a
WGT624 Netgear router.

I can use the 300GB drive just plugged into one computer as always, but
it would be handy to have the drive easily available to all the
computers by having it available on the network.

Is this possible?

Thanks,

Mel
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I bought one of these:

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earlier in the year. I like it alot. It has it's own management software
that allows remote access and "always on" network access.

Art
 
Previously Odie Ferrous said:
Great link, Folkert (and how are you these days?) but the product has no
cooling fans. They do, however, purport that "U-Stor is made of metal
to transfer the heat from HDD to outside"
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Were have I heard this before....
which, as we both know, is a
load of codswallop, because it does absolutely nothing to cool the
components on the logic board, which are more susceptible to
heat-related failure than the internal mechanical parts.
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Airflow cannot be replaced with anything else with reasonable effort.
Furthermore, they have a picture of their enclosure that shows a Maxtor
drive. End of credibility.
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Agreed.

Arno
 
Fair enough, but in my opinion, a blown chip on a logic board is almost
invariably down to overheating.
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This is only *my* opinion, though, and based on what I see coming
through for recovery.
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This is also supported by semiconductor quality today. Except for some
known cases (the last one was the problem with new flame retardant
that killed a series of Fujitsu drives several years back),
semiconductors reliability is quite predictable. However they have a
limited lifetime and that derates with the operating temperature. Rule
of thumb is half the lifetime for each 10C more. (Applies to logic and
memory. Power semiconductors are less sensitive.)

The base point seems to have shifted up in the last decades, at the
moment it possibly is around 50 years at 50C. There is also
catastrophic failure temperature at 150...200C chip temperature,
depending on technology.

Today, if a chip works for some months or years and then fails, it is
allmost allways due to temperature. Example: Run a chip at 90C (chip,
not package surface temperature), and get something like 1.9 years of
lifetime.

In addition chips have "hot spots", were the local temperature is
significantly higher than the overall chip temperature. Especially
pocessor lik structures suffer from this, which includes controller
chips on disks and chipsets.

In short, if a semiconductor fails prematurely, but after working
for some time, it was in most cases insufficiently cooled and
the failure is not a surprise at all.

Arno
 
This is also supported by semiconductor quality today.
Nope.

Except for some known cases (the last one was the problem
with new flame retardant that killed a series of Fujitsu drives
several years back), semiconductors reliability is quite predictable.
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Not in the sense he was claiming.
However they have a limited lifetime and that derates
with the operating temperature. Rule of thumb is half
the lifetime for each 10C more. (Applies to logic and
memory. Power semiconductors are less sensitive.)
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Its nothing like as black and white as that.
The base point seems to have shifted up in the last decades,
at the moment it possibly is around 50 years at 50C. There
is also catastrophic failure temperature at 150...200C chip
temperature, depending on technology.
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Irrelevant to the situation being discussed, a hard drive in an
external enclosure which doesnt have adequate fan cooling.

That wont produce temperatures anything like that.
Today, if a chip works for some months or years and then
fails, it is allmost allways due to temperature. Example:
Run a chip at 90C (chip, not package surface temperature),
and get something like 1.9 years of lifetime.
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Irrelevant to the situation being discussed, a hard drive in an
external enclosure which doesnt have adequate fan cooling.

That wont produce temperatures anything like that.
In addition chips have "hot spots", were the local temperature
is significantly higher than the overall chip temperature.
Especially pocessor lik structures suffer from this,
which includes controller chips on disks and chipsets.
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Its perfectly possible to design the ic so that doesnt happen.
In short, if a semiconductor fails prematurely, but after
working for some time, it was in most cases insufficiently
cooled and the failure is not a surprise at all.
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There is more than that which produces ics that have failed visibly.
 
Fred said:
You dont necessarily need airflow to adequately
cool a hard drive in an external housing.
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Oh, really?

News to me. Your choice, obviously. But you're wrong.



Odie
 
Not in the sense he was claiming.
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Its nothing like as black and white as that.
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Irrelevant to the situation being discussed, a hard drive in an
external enclosure which doesnt have adequate fan cooling.
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That wont produce temperatures anything like that.
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Irrelevant to the situation being discussed, a hard drive in an
external enclosure which doesnt have adequate fan cooling.
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That wont produce temperatures anything like that.
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You obviously have never taken a thermometer to the chips on
a disk or mainboard chipset. I have.
Its perfectly possible to design the ic so that doesnt happen.
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It is extremely hard. Also finding them is extremely hard.
There is more than that which produces ics that have failed visibly.
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Depends. Not necessarily. Just have a look at how MOS fails.

Arno
 
You dont necessarily need airflow to adequately
cool a hard drive in an external housing.
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Good luck with that. Water would do it (but ruin the disk). A lot
of thermal grease or gel could maybe do it, but would be very
expensive and difficult to handle. Nothing else works.

Arno
 
You obviously have never taken a thermometer
to the chips on a disk or mainboard chipset.
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Guess who has just got egg all over its face, yet again.
I have.
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But clearly doesnt have enough viable between its ears.
It is extremely hard. Also finding them is extremely hard.
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Mindlessly silly. Just buy a samsung drive, stupid.
Depends. Not necessarily. Just have a look at how MOS fails.
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Waffle.
 
Oh, really?
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Yep, really.
News to me.
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Your pig ignorance is your problem, as always.
Your choice, obviously. But you're wrong.
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Have fun explaining all those drives out
there in external enclosures that havent died.

Thats the problem with individuals like you,
you dont even see the drives that havent died.
 
Good luck with that.
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Dont need luck, there's hordes of them out there that havent died.
Water would do it (but ruin the disk).
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Not if the water cools the heatsink as is done with cpu cooling.
A lot of thermal grease or gel could maybe do it,
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You dont ever use a lot, its there to provide good thermal
contact between the drive frame and the properly designed
solid metal case that acts as a heatsink for the drive.

Completely trivial with laptop drives.
but would be very expensive and difficult to handle. Nothing else works.
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Mindlessly silly. Have fun explaining all those laptop drives in external cases
and drives like in the bigger ipods and satnav systems and digital video cameras.
 
Arno Wagner said:
Which does nothing for the chipset, unfortunately....



Both fine in principle. But if there is one chip that
gets hot and does not have good contact...
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Completely trivial to choose a drive that doesnt have a chip like that.

Not a shred of rocket science required at all.
 
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