Service Pact 3 for Windows XP

J

Jvgone

I cannot get sp3 to install on my system.
I have tryed at least 10 times, the last two with firewall and spyware
disabled.
I keep getting the message "access denied ,setup error, sp3 did not
complete, error#0x8DD0007".
Can anyone offer any assistance to this problem?
 
J

JS

If I where to install SP3 I would choose to download the
file and not use Automatic Updates. (See below)

Your PC must be at least SP1 or SP2 level as SP3 will not
install on XP Gold.

I would also create an "Image Backup" of my drive prior
to installing SP3 just in case you do have problems.
Don't have any Image Backup software:
Try "True Image" (has a 15 day trial version available)
http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/

If you use Zone Alarm Firewall (Free or Paid) then update to
version 7.0.483.
Warning do not install ZA version 8.0.xxx as it currently has
problems.

Install SP3 in 'Clean Boot' mode:
How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353

Where to download the SP3 installation file:
(File is large but will only install components that your PC requires)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...a8-5e76-401f-be08-1e1555d4f3d4&DisplayLang=en

Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3
Recommends steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3.
Also includes troubleshooting information.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717/en-us

Windows XP Service Pack 3 Overview
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...ad-bc34-40be-8d85-6bb4f56f5110&displaylang=en
Be sure to download and read the file titled 'Overview of Windows XP Service
Pack 3'
Note: "You can run the SP3 update package on any edition of Windows XP SP1
or SP2."

The hard disk space requirements for Windows XP Service Pack 3
Discusses the hard disk space requirements for installing
Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3)
"For a PC on which Windows XP is already installed"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947311/en-us

Installing Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3)
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/cc164204.aspx

Release notes for the Windows XP Service Pack 3
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936929/en-us

List of fixes that are included in Windows XP Service Pack 3
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946480/

You cannot uninstall Internet Explorer 7 or Internet Explorer 8 Beta 1
after you install Windows XP Service Pack 3:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950719

IE 8 Beta Warning - Windows XP Service Pack 3(SP3) users only:
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/08/27/upgrading-to-internet-explorer-8-beta-2.aspx

Windows XP Media Center Edition 2002:
Scroll down to the end of the article.
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/05/05/ie-and-xpsp3.aspx

XP SP3: Post Installation Cleanup:
http://www.aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=33827

How to troubleshoot an unsuccessful installation of
Windows XP Service Pack 3:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950718/en-us

Free unlimited installation and compatibility support
(Via Email, Chat or Phone support)
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gprid=522131

Availability of the .NET Framework 1.0 post-Service Pack 3 hotfix
Describes the .NET Framework 1.0 post-Service Pack 3 hotfix rollup package
for the Mscorwks.dll, Mscorsvr.dll, and Mscorlib.dll files.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/896061/en-us
 
G

Gerry

JS

To install Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3), either Windows XP Service
Pack 1a (SP1a) or Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2) must already be
installed
Source: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389

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Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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D

Daave

Gerry said:
JS

To install Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3), either Windows XP Service
Pack 1a (SP1a) or Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2) must already be
installed
Source: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389
Click to expand...

This has already been discussed, Gerry. Note that the requirement is SP1
in the following TechNet link:

http://technet.microsoft.com:80/en-us/library/cc507836.aspx

The differences between SP1 and SP1a are *very* minor. See this link:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;813926

I am not aware of any documented instances where SP1 as a base won't
work whereas the slightly different SP1a would work. It seems to be a
legalistic issue (because of Java) more than anything else.
 
G

Gerry

Daave

Yes I do recollect the discussion. The PITA seems to have found other
persons to annoy.


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Gerry
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Stourport, England
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D

Daave

I don't follow.

Gerry said:
Daave

Yes I do recollect the discussion. The PITA seems to have found other
persons to annoy.


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Gerry
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Stourport, England
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G

Gerry

Daave

PITA = Troll = Proclaims Anonymity = Likes Protracted Arguments that go
nowhere and one who has so far left you alone.


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Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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D

Daave

Still don't follow. Who are you talking about?


Gerry said:
Daave

PITA = Troll = Proclaims Anonymity = Likes Protracted Arguments that
go nowhere and one who has so far left you alone.


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Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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K

Ken Blake, MVP

Yep, it's a bad habit of mine of just
referring to Service Pack 1a as SP1.
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I'm not so sure that Gerry is right in this case. Essentially SP1a is
just a replacement for SP1, for legal reasons, and the two are
identical except that "Windows XP SP1a does not include or install the
Microsoft VM, which provides support for running Java programs."

It's hard to imagine that SP1a would work for this and SP1 would not,
and my guess is that Microsoft says SP1a, because, as far as it's
concerned, there is an SP1a, and no SP1.

But I don't know that for sure, and I'd be interested to hear from
someone who tried to install SP3 on a machine with SP1 (not SP1a) on
it. If you tried it, what where the results?
 
J

JS

I'd be more than happy to test installing SP3
on a SP1 based PC but I don't have SP1
(at least not on my hard drive), there is a
chance I may have it backup up to a CD or DVD
but I'll have to check my archive. I doubt it's still
available as a download
 
G

Gerry

Ken

You have overlooked an important point. It is not me making the
statement. It is Microsoft!

Read the Source: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389

You are in a better position to tell Microsoft they are wrong than I!


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Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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A

Anna

Ken Blake said:
I'm not so sure that Gerry is right in this case. Essentially SP1a is
just a replacement for SP1, for legal reasons, and the two are
identical except that "Windows XP SP1a does not include or install the
Microsoft VM, which provides support for running Java programs."

It's hard to imagine that SP1a would work for this and SP1 would not,
and my guess is that Microsoft says SP1a, because, as far as it's
concerned, there is an SP1a, and no SP1.

But I don't know that for sure, and I'd be interested to hear from
someone who tried to install SP3 on a machine with SP1 (not SP1a) on
it. If you tried it, what where the results?
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Ken:
I believe your assumption is probably correct insofar as the MS stance on
this issue.

I've personally installed or have been involved with dozens of installations
of SP3 on SP1 machines and I've never encountered a single instance or been
made aware of any problem that could be attributed to an SP3 > SP1
installation.
Anna
 
J

JS

Yes, but then MS makes this statement:
Differences Between Windows XP SP1 and Windows XP SP1a:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/813926/

"There is no benefit to installing SP1a if you are already running Windows
XP SP1. Microsoft does not recommend that you install SP1a if you are
already running SP1."

"Windows XP SP1a is the same as Windows XP SP1 except that the Microsoft
virtual machine (VM) is removed in SP1a."

So if there are as they say "no benefit" SP1 should work as well as SP1a
unless they know something we don't.
Anyway if I can find my SP1 file, I'll configure my "test pc" and see what
happens
 
G

Gerry

JS

Microsoft Knowledge Base Articles have known to be incorrect and more
commonly misleading.


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Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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G

Gerry

Anna

The argument becomes academic if you install SP2, check all is OK and
then install SP3. You simplify / reduce the issues that can
potentionally cause an update to fail.

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Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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A

Anna

Gerry said:
Anna

The argument becomes academic if you install SP2, check all is OK and then
install SP3. You simplify / reduce the issues that can potentionally cause
an update to fail.
Click to expand...


Gerry:
Admittedly no problem would presumably arise should the user decide to first
install SP2 over SP1 and then install SP3. But what would be the point of
all this if one can simply install SP3 over an XP-SP1 installation without
any problem? Of the few dozen such installation of SP3 > SP1 that I'm aware
of there have been no reports of any problems doing so which were
attributable to that process.
Anna
 

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