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We are not sure if we are posting this in the correct group, but we
are looking to implement AD. We have 5 critical applications with 2
being accessed by 20 to 125 users at a time and the others 20 to 50
users. Should we have each application on its own server or can we
have multiple apps on one server ? Right now we are planning on
putting the DHCP and DNS on the same server. We are making all of
these servers member servers. Thanks.
 
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We are not sure if we are posting this in the correct group, but we
are looking to implement AD. We have 5 critical applications with 2
being accessed by 20 to 125 users at a time and the others 20 to 50
users. Should we have each application on its own server or can we
have multiple apps on one server ?
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If the applications are Paintbrush and Notepad you are fine with running
them on the same server. If they are Exchange and SQL Server 2005 then they
should be on seperate servers. The two examples I have given are extremes,
but my point is there is no way any one can make a decision based on the
information you have provided. My examples try to point out the complexity
of the app can dictate what you want to intermix with one another. This
really has nothing to do with AD. So as you make your decision you want to
try and keep systems that could be loading exe's and dll's into the windows
and system32 folder and polluting things seperate as much as possible, since
naming could be similar and they could step on one another. You can also
get yourself in trouble if one machine goes down (Say you have to upgrade
it, or apply an application patch) multiple apps are taken down. Memory,
disk, network and cpu demands can also dictate where you want to place apps.
The best thing for you might be to review Virtual services. This way you
can run multiple apps on a single piece of hardware.

Right now we are planning on putting the DHCP and DNS on the same server.
We are making all of these servers member servers. Thanks.
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Placing DNS on a DC is the way to go you can integrate it with AD. There is
some discussion on placing dhcp on a DC and some security concerns. I read
through the article on this and it is extremely minor an das long as the DC
is internal the threat is very small. If I had to build a new system I
would probably place dhcp on a member server though, just because that is
the recommended path by Microsoft.

Having your apps on member servers is the correct architecture. Avoid
placing apps on DC's
 
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Paul Bergson
MVP - Directory Services
MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT

http://www.pbbergs.com

Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.




If the applications are Paintbrush and Notepad you are fine with running
them on the same server. If they are Exchange and SQL Server 2005 then they
should be on seperate servers. The two examples I have given are extremes,
but my point is there is no way any one can make a decision based on the
information you have provided. My examples try to point out the complexity
of the app can dictate what you want to intermix with one another. This
really has nothing to do with AD. So as you make your decision you want to
try and keep systems that could be loading exe's and dll's into the windows
and system32 folder and polluting things seperate as much as possible, since
naming could be similar and they could step on one another. You can also
get yourself in trouble if one machine goes down (Say you have to upgrade
it, or apply an application patch) multiple apps are taken down. Memory,
disk, network and cpu demands can also dictate where you want to place apps.
The best thing for you might be to review Virtual services. This way you
can run multiple apps on a single piece of hardware.


Placing DNS on a DC is the way to go you can integrate it with AD. There is
some discussion on placing dhcp on a DC and some security concerns. I read
through the article on this and it is extremely minor an das long as the DC
is internal the threat is very small. If I had to build a new system I
would probably place dhcp on a member server though, just because that is
the recommended path by Microsoft.

Having your apps on member servers is the correct architecture. Avoid
placing apps on DC's
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Thanks for the input and sorry for the lack of details. We are
running a student information system accessed by 20 to 120 users and a
system being accessed by another 20 to 40 users. When we rollout
Exchange it will be on it's own server and SQL is currrently on it's
own server. Thanks again.
 
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