SEGA's LindBergh: new arcade board running some of the supposed Xbox 360 games

[Guest]

At E3, Sega showed some new games that were all thought to be running on
Xbox 360.

some, if not all of these future games were actually running on a new Sega
Sammy arcade board code-named LindBergh. this is the new high-end PowerVR
based board that has been in development for several years. it was even
announced (or mentioned) in press releases early last year:
http://www.imgtec.com/News/Release/index.asp?ID=194
and widely expected to use the newest highend PowerVR Series 5 parts.

this is the board expected to replace NAOMI 2, and probably Chihiro (Xbox
based) and TriForce (Gamecube based)


the E3 games in question that Sega showed were:
Virtua Fighter, AfterBurner, House Of The Dead, Chrome Hounds and Sonic.

these games were shown in a no-photographing, no-filming Sega theater
presentation at E3. a female Sega representive kept stressing that these
games were all real-time. you can see a video of these games here:
http://www.xboxyde.com/leech_1399_en.html


what was not mentioned was, the hardware that these games ran on....

after looking into this matter, from what I've gathered, it seems that at
least some of the games were running on Sega's new highend arcade board, now
apparently called LindBergh.


a simple google of the words: Sega LindBergh .....will come up with some
decent hits

but here, I've already pulled them together for you, plus some other links

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?start=20&t=22485
http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?start=20&t=22989
http://ntsc-uk.domino.org/archive/index.php/t-40729.html
http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?p=1442537#post1442537
http://alwaysgame.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=000IMQ&topic_id=SEGA Forum&topic=

assuming you are actually interested in this stuff (you diehard SEGA fans)
when looking at some of these message board threads, if you dont see
LindBergh right away (what you would be searching for if you're actually
bothering to check out these links!) just use the 'find' function on your
browser, and search for LindBergh. .....heh, I feel like I'm being captian
obvious here, but oh well.



for the life of me though, I do not understand why SEGA is bothering with a
new highend arcade board with relatively unknown GPU(s). PowerVR has been
out of the high-end graphics scene for a long, long time. one would think
that Sega could get similar if not much better performance by using standard
ATI or Nvidia GPUs in parallel.

 

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<gunhead> ha scritto nel messaggio

sega says that his E3's videos was in real time on x360 hardware. period.

 

[Guest]

<gunhead> ha scritto nel messaggio

sega says that his E3's videos was in real time on x360 hardware. period.

no I think Sega said that their E3 tech demos were in realtime, but did not
say what hardware they were running on.

can you show me a quote from Sega backing up what you said about the demos
being on Xbox 360?

 

[Xen*]

no I think Sega said that their E3 tech demos were in realtime, but did
not say what hardware they were running on.
none


can you show me a quote from Sega backing up what you said about the demos
being on Xbox 360?

sure


Sega's Looks Ahead to Next-Gen Gaming (X360):
Sega has always been known for making its presence known in the video-game
industry. At this year's E3, the company decided to prove that this trend
will be continuing as game consoles evolve to the next level. In a
presentation held at its booth yesterday, Sega showed off some footage of
what it has in store for next-gen gamer . and the results were quite
impressive. What was even more impressive is that none of this next-gen
footage was pre-rendered. Instead, everything was shown in real-time,
rendered on the Xbox 360.

The presentation began with footage from Condemned: Criminal Origins.
Condemned is a first-person action/adventure in which players are hunted by
a string of serial killers. The footage showed off the game's creepy
environment, along with a few of the enemies skulking about hunting for you.
Unfortunately, Condemned's dark setting took away from some of its visual
impact, as it was hard to really see much detail due to its lighting
effects. The game does do a good job of conveying a real sense of dread,
though.

Next up was footage from Full Auto. Sega is billing Full Auto as "The
World's Most Destructive Racing Game", and with good reason. This game takes
the best parts of franchises like Burnout and Twisted Metal, and melds them
into a uniquely entertaining experience. Armed with a variety of weapons,
drivers take to the streets in a brutal race to the finish line. I was blown
away by how good everything looked in Full Auto. The cars all looked
amazing, and the damage models were incredible. Of all the playable Xbox 360
titles on display at E3, Full Auto seemed to be the most impressive looking
to me.

After showcasing its two playable next-gen titles from this year's E3, Sega
let us get a glimpse of what's even further down the road, beginning with
the previously unannounced Chrome Hounds. Chrome Hounds is a tactical,
squad-based mech-combat game. Think of it as the love child between Rainbow
Six and MechAssault. Sega didn't have any playable builds of Chrome Hounds
at E3, but the gameplay footage of the hulking units stomping around the
war-torn battlefield looked pretty impressive.

http://xbox.gamespy.com/xbox-360/full-auto/617284p1.html


E3 2005: Sega Delivers Chrome Hounds to Xbox 360
Chrome Hounds promises full-on mech action with Xbox Live Online play.
You'll be able to team up with other players Online and head out to the
battlefield. bla bla

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/615/615851p1.html

Quizá a muchos el nombre de Chrome Hounds no les diga nada, pero lo cierto
es que detrás de él, se esconde un juego con muchas aspiraciones en la nueva
Xbox 360.
http://www.noticias3d.com/noticia.asp?idnoticia=9660


News - First next-gen footage of Sonic, VF5, Afterburner, House of the Dead,
more
Sega fans, rejoice! Some vids taken at E3 have surfaced showing the first
next-gen footage of some Sega titles, which were all demoed for the Xbox
360. They're tech demos, so we don't know whether or not they are all going
to be made into games, but we do know that Sonic 360 and Chrome Hounds are
in the works. The games included in the vids are Virtua Fighter 5, Sonic,
Afterburner, House of the Dead, and Chrome Hounds (a mech game developed by
From Software)

http://www.gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=5047


A fifteen-minute video shown only in a private theatre demonstrates a first
taste of the company's third 360 title -- and more intriguingly depicts the
next-gen incarnations of some of the company's most popular franchises.

Every portion of the video looked impressive, but Sega representatives were
adamant that none of the visuals were pre-rendered (possibly in response to
the controversy over Sony's PS3 demos).

The third game is tentatively entitled Chrome Hounds ... bla bla..

http://egm.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3140760

http://tech.monstersandcritics.com/news/article_1001144.php/Segas__big_next-gen_games



AND SO ON......

 

[Guest]

sure


Sega's Looks Ahead to Next-Gen Gaming (X360):
Sega has always been known for making its presence known in the
video-game industry. At this year's E3, the company decided to prove that
this trend will be continuing as game consoles evolve to the next level.
In a presentation held at its booth yesterday, Sega showed off some
footage of what it has in store for next-gen gamer . and the results were
quite impressive. What was even more impressive is that none of this
next-gen footage was pre-rendered. Instead, everything was shown in
real-time, rendered on the Xbox 360.

The presentation began with footage from Condemned: Criminal Origins.
Condemned is a first-person action/adventure in which players are hunted
by a string of serial killers. The footage showed off the game's creepy
environment, along with a few of the enemies skulking about hunting for
you. Unfortunately, Condemned's dark setting took away from some of its
visual impact, as it was hard to really see much detail due to its
lighting effects. The game does do a good job of conveying a real sense of
dread, though.

Next up was footage from Full Auto. Sega is billing Full Auto as "The
World's Most Destructive Racing Game", and with good reason. This game
takes the best parts of franchises like Burnout and Twisted Metal, and
melds them into a uniquely entertaining experience. Armed with a variety
of weapons, drivers take to the streets in a brutal race to the finish
line. I was blown away by how good everything looked in Full Auto. The
cars all looked amazing, and the damage models were incredible. Of all the
playable Xbox 360 titles on display at E3, Full Auto seemed to be the most
impressive looking to me.

After showcasing its two playable next-gen titles from this year's E3,
Sega let us get a glimpse of what's even further down the road, beginning
with the previously unannounced Chrome Hounds. Chrome Hounds is a
tactical, squad-based mech-combat game. Think of it as the love child
between Rainbow Six and MechAssault. Sega didn't have any playable builds
of Chrome Hounds at E3, but the gameplay footage of the hulking units
stomping around the war-torn battlefield looked pretty impressive.

http://xbox.gamespy.com/xbox-360/full-auto/617284p1.html


E3 2005: Sega Delivers Chrome Hounds to Xbox 360
Chrome Hounds promises full-on mech action with Xbox Live Online play.
You'll be able to team up with other players Online and head out to the
battlefield. bla bla

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/615/615851p1.html

Quizá a muchos el nombre de Chrome Hounds no les diga nada, pero lo cierto
es que detrás de él, se esconde un juego con muchas aspiraciones en la
nueva Xbox 360.
http://www.noticias3d.com/noticia.asp?idnoticia=9660


News - First next-gen footage of Sonic, VF5, Afterburner, House of the
Dead, more
Sega fans, rejoice! Some vids taken at E3 have surfaced showing the first
next-gen footage of some Sega titles, which were all demoed for the Xbox
360. They're tech demos, so we don't know whether or not they are all
going to be made into games, but we do know that Sonic 360 and Chrome
Hounds are in the works. The games included in the vids are Virtua Fighter
5, Sonic, Afterburner, House of the Dead, and Chrome Hounds (a mech game
developed by From Software)

http://www.gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=5047


A fifteen-minute video shown only in a private theatre demonstrates a
first taste of the company's third 360 title -- and more intriguingly
depicts the next-gen incarnations of some of the company's most popular
franchises.

Every portion of the video looked impressive, but Sega representatives
were adamant that none of the visuals were pre-rendered (possibly in
response to the controversy over Sony's PS3 demos).

The third game is tentatively entitled Chrome Hounds ... bla bla..

http://egm.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3140760

http://tech.monstersandcritics.com/news/article_1001144.php/Segas__big_next-gen_games



AND SO ON......

Ok I see your point, good job >_<

- it is possible though, that these websites made a mistake or were
assuming these games were demo'd on Xbox 360 kits. I think we'll find
out soon enough wheather these games were running on Xbox 360 or a new
arcade board.


I am willing to bet that Chrome Hounds, Sonic and AfterBurner were on Xbox
360 kits, while Virtua Fighter and House of the Dead were on the new arcade
board. yes, I accept the possibility that they were ALL on Xbox 360, but
you should also be open to the possibility that VF and HoTD were on a new
arcade board. the realtime rendering looked somewhat different between
VF+HoTD and Sonic, AB, CH

 

[Xen*]

<gunhead> ha scritto nel messaggio

Ok I see your point, good job >_<

- it is possible though, that these websites made a mistake or were
assuming these games were demo'd on Xbox 360 kits. I think we'll
find out soon enough wheather these games were running on Xbox 360 or a
new arcade board.

these websites are only the first that I've found
I've read the same things in so many sites, trust me

I am willing to bet that Chrome Hounds, Sonic and AfterBurner were on
Xbox 360 kits, while Virtua Fighter and House of the Dead were on the new
arcade board. yes, I accept the possibility that they were ALL on Xbox
360, but you should also be open to the possibility that VF and HoTD were
on a new arcade board.

sorry brother, but I don't find a reason to think this :-\
they have introduced a lot of games only for x360 in their conference, the
possibility that two of them can be extrapolate thinking 'bout another
platform is near zero, in my opinion

the realtime rendering looked somewhat different between

VF+HoTD and Sonic, AB, CH

I disagree
the art style is different, the rendering no, I don't see differences in
lightining, texturing, filtering
see you next time!

 

[Jukka Mustasilta]

sorry brother, but I don't find a reason to think this :-\
they have introduced a lot of games only for x360 in their conference, the
possibility that two of them can be extrapolate thinking 'bout another
platform is near zero, in my opinion

Thinking about Panzer Dragoon Orta and OutRun and Otogi, Sega is the perfect
partner to do graphical showcase games with createve and distinctive visual
style.

 

[Xen*]

Thinking about Panzer Dragoon Orta and OutRun and Otogi, Sega is the
perfect partner to do graphical showcase games with createve and
distinctive visual style.

I agree!!!