Seeing Vista share from XP

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Al

I can see a vista share from XP if I have the same username/password on both
computers. However, if it is different, I get the "You might not have
permission..." error. I have turned password protected sharing off on vista.
Based on that description, it appears if a folder has permissions for
Everyone as a Reader, this should work. However, I have not been able to get
it work.

Turning the firewall etc. does not help.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks.
 
Al said:
I can see a vista share from XP if I have the same username/password on
both computers. However, if it is different, I get the "You might not have
permission..." error. I have turned password protected sharing off on
vista. Based on that description, it appears if a folder has permissions
for Everyone as a Reader, this should work. However, I have not been able
to get it work.

Turning the firewall etc. does not help.

Does anyone have any suggestions?
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Suggestions for what? Your network is working as it should. In a
peer-to-peer network (called a Workgroup in the Windows world),
authentication is done locally on each machine (instead of at a server in a
domain). In a small Workgroup, create matching user accounts and passwords
on all machines and authentication will be seamless. If you have more than
6-8 computers, you should consider using a server for central management.
So turn your password protected sharing back on in Vista.

If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular
user's account) for convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this
link work for both XP and Vista:

Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm

Malke
 
So what does it mean to turn "Password Porotected Sharing" off? The verbage
seems to imply it will allow users who do not have username/password on the
machine will be allowed to see shares (assuming Everyone has read permission)?

Aloke.
 
A bit of info on how to Network XP and Vista

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx

Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.

Permissions/Share info is there as well.

If using Norton, McAfee, Trend Micro I.S., make sure file and printer
sharing is enabled in THEIR firewall (or LAN allowed, depending on how their
Exceptions are worded in their Firewall)

1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is
the SAME.

In Vista Network and Sharing:

Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)

Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)

File Sharing: ON

Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared
Docs)

Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and
passwords (passwords can be different) on ALL computers in your Network) If
you have it ON, you will be asked for a username and password when you try to
access a Vista computer from an XP computer, or a Vista computer.

Also, run the XP’s Home or Small Office Network File and Printer Sharing
Wizard to include Vista in your “New†Network, even if you had an XP Network
set up prior to adding a Vista computer to it(redoing the Wizard seems to
work for XP machines!).

In “My Network Placesâ€: “Set up a Home or Small Office Networkâ€
OR under Accessories > Communications > Network Setup Wizard > Allow File
and Printer Sharing.
 
Thanks Mick. I had read your response as part of an earlier question which
was similar and this certainly helps. However, I still have one basic
question:

Does Vista allow a share (which has been given a read permission for
Everyone) to be visible from XP with Password Protection turned off? I know
this works if the username/password is the same. However, if the XP
username/password is not the same and it does not have the same username
locally, will it still be able to view the shares of Vista with Password
Protection off?

Thanks.
 
Al said:
Thanks Mick. I had read your response as part of an earlier question which
was similar and this certainly helps. However, I still have one basic
question:

Does Vista allow a share (which has been given a read permission for
Everyone) to be visible from XP with Password Protection turned off? I
know this works if the username/password is the same. However, if the XP
username/password is not the same and it does not have the same username
locally, will it still be able to view the shares of Vista with Password
Protection off?
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It depends. If the XP machines are XP Home and network guest (not the Guest
in User Accounts) is enabled, then shares will be accessible with
guest-level access. My network troubleshooting boilerplate is based on
doing what works without futzing around with it. I know that if I go
on-site and create matching user accounts/passwords, turn off Simple
Sharing, enable Password Protection, etc., I will have that network up and
sharing literally within a very few minutes. Since I do this for a living
and time is money (for both me and my clients), I prefer my method.
Certainly you're more than welcome to try something else. :-)

Malke
 
Al said:
Thanks Mick. I had read your response as part of an earlier question
which
was similar and this certainly helps. However, I still have one basic
question:

Does Vista allow a share (which has been given a read permission for
Everyone) to be visible from XP with Password Protection turned off? I
know
this works if the username/password is the same. However, if the XP
username/password is not the same and it does not have the same
username
locally, will it still be able to view the shares of Vista with
Password
Protection off?

Thanks.
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In my experience, yes you will if
- it's XP Home or it's Xp Pro with 'simple file sharing' set
- you have a net-enabled Guest
- Guest is included in the 'everyone' list.

You might get blocked in the other direction if you have ever set a
password on the XP Guest account and forgotten about it ( personal
experience - safely recorded the password but forgot that I had set it )
You might want to regard that setup as a starting point before
tightening things up with the use of password protected accounts.

Tom
 
Hi Al,

This is possibly a too obvious thought, but have you set both sharing
and NTFS permissions for Everyone to Read?
 
--> -you have a net-enabled Guest
--> - Guest is included in the 'everyone' list.
Do both of these need to be on XP (where I am trying to view the share) or
vista (where the share is created)?

Thanks.
 
Al said:
--> -you have a net-enabled Guest
--> - Guest is included in the 'everyone' list.
Do both of these need to be on XP (where I am trying to view the
share) or
vista (where the share is created)?

Thanks.
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I was thinking only of getting to the Vista share from XP so it's Guest
on XP to be net-enabled and Guest to be among 'everyone' when setting
the share on Vista. As far as I know the converse applies anyway as
I've worked that way in the past hence my (confusing ?) remark about
forgetting the XP Guest password had been set. XP Home's 'simple file
sharing' ( or XP Pro set to simple file sharing ) equates to Vista's
'Password protected' set to off.

Tom
 
That did it. Adding "Guest" to the share on vista set to a Reader allows XP
to see and execute it. What I noticed was once I do this, after that, even
when I remove Guest, it does not matter for that share (I rebooted both XP
and vista machines) after removing Guest. It will still allow it. However, if
I delete that directory and create a new one, then it is back to where
"Guest" needs to be added.

Looks like once Guest is added, vista remembers that and it does not matter
if you actually remove it for that share.

Thanks.
 
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