Secunia software inspector

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You`re not kidding !

I found that I have two versions of Adobe Flash player on my system. One
secure the other NOT. Question is: does the secure version override the
unsecure one? Logic would assume YES but there is no way (evident to me),
which version is running when invoked to reassure me. Control panel
Add/Remove only shows one version installed - which one? Why don`t these
people uninstall the old version before installing the new?

Incidentally, in my case, secunia suggests contacting the vendor for
instructions on how to uninstall the old version. There is nothing evident on
how to do this on their web site. Now we have to delve into the registry
which is BS. Apart from anything else. Why should we have this stuff
cluttering up our HD`s anyway? I think the problem lies partly with the
hardware manufacturers, who have in recent years gone out of their way to
increase HD capacity. This has had the `knock on` affect of encouraging
software developers to be sloppy with their code writing by way of bloated
applications and poor install/uninstallers.

Stu
 
One method is to copy and paste the visited URL from your browser into your
post.
If you are using IE7 with the multiple tab capability, this is an easy
operation to perform.

Stu
 
OldRebel2 said:
Very revealing tool. Easy to run because it uses Java. It found 2 old
versions of Macromedia flash that I did not know were still on my computer.

http://secunia.com/software_inspector
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Old Rebel, I found two versions of Macromedia flash 5 and 7. I ran the adobe
uninstaller and had to remove files left behind. The uninstaller removed the
latest version of flash also. I did not reinstall the latest version yet. I
ran the inspector again using both Firefox and I.E. 6 they both continue to
find all removed versions of flash. I also have Java 1.4.2 still installed as
well as 5.0.9, the tool did not find the earlier version. I am somewhat
skeptical of these findings regarding flash. Any help you can offer would be
appreciated. I have no files for flash even in the hidden folders, so why
does it still show up.
 
Hmm? I don't really know. Did you follow the file paths given by the
Software Inspector to verify that the flash objects were no longer there?
Assuming that you did, are they still in your recycle bin? Maybe empty it
and also run CCleaner with the option to remove Maromedia Flash Player files.
If you do that,you will need to go back to the flash player settings manager
and redo your settings, once you reinstall it. I have retested following my
cleanup, and the old versions are no longer detected. You might need to run
the CCleaner "issues" scan to clean out the leftover registry entries.
 
OldRebel2 said:
Hmm? I don't really know. Did you follow the file paths given by the
Software Inspector to verify that the flash objects were no longer there?
Assuming that you did, are they still in your recycle bin? Maybe empty it
and also run CCleaner with the option to remove Maromedia Flash Player files.
If you do that,you will need to go back to the flash player settings manager
and redo your settings, once you reinstall it. I have retested following my
cleanup, and the old versions are no longer detected. You might need to run
the CCleaner "issues" scan to clean out the leftover registry entries.
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Old Rebel, Regarding flash 5 I followed the file to
C:WINDOWS\1386\APPS\App25887\IUE\SWFLASH.OCX I do not know If I shoild delete
this file it came installed when I bought the computer. The file for flash7
is C:\NPSWF32.dll but I haven't found that one. I used search but it said not
valid file. Also should I uninstall Java 1.4.2 which came installed on my
computer. By the way I find using this forumn very helpful.
 
suebee said:
Old Rebel, Regarding flash 5 I followed the file to
C:WINDOWS\1386\APPS\App25887\IUE\SWFLASH.OCX I do not know If I shoild
delete
this file it came installed when I bought the computer. The file for
flash7
is C:\NPSWF32.dll but I haven't found that one. I used search but it said
not
valid file. Also should I uninstall Java 1.4.2 which came installed on my
computer. By the way I find using this forumn very helpful.
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(pardon me for jumping in) I don't have clear guideance about flash, but
about the Java--yes. Install the latest from Sun--and remove all previous
versions you have in place, especially the one you mention.

It is possible for Java-based applications to be written to depend on a
specific version in place, so it is possible this will break something. In
practice, with home users, I haven't found this to be the case, but if it
is, the older versions are available for download for this reason.
 
You should upgrade your Java to the newest version. The particular flash file:
C:WINDOWS\1386\APPS\App25887\IUE\SWFLASH.OCX - maybe just leave it in place.
I don't think that file would be actively used. (Someone please correct me if
I'm wrong.) Just make sure you install the newest version from the Adobe
Shockwave Flash web site. My active flash files are at C:\Windows\System
32\Macromedia\Flash in XP SP2 Home Edition. Some programs, like AOL, install
flash.ocx files in other folders (e.g.:program files\common files), for their
special use. The one you mention is unknown to me. That might be a protected
system folder.
 
Bill Sanderson MVP said:
(pardon me for jumping in) I don't have clear guideance about flash, but
about the Java--yes. Install the latest from Sun--and remove all previous
versions you have in place, especially the one you mention.

It is possible for Java-based applications to be written to depend on a
specific version in place, so it is possible this will break something. In
practice, with home users, I haven't found this to be the case, but if it
is, the older versions are available for download for this reason
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Five hours is outrageous! I downloaded the offline installation version of
Java 6 installer ON DIALUP (using AOL) and it took less than an hour. I used
the Sun Download Manager so I could pause and restart the download if
necessary. I don't know which download manager you're using, if any, but the
MSN dialup download manager seemed extremely slow to me when I had it
recently. Good luck.

BTW - my PC came preinstalled with Java 1.4.2 also, but it was already out
of date when I got it. The older versions have been easily exploited by
trojans. Versions 5.0 update 6 (and above) have enhanced security.
http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/5000070300.xml
http://sunsolve.sun.com/search/docu...availability,$20security"$20category:security
http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/other_jreversions.xml
 
As long as you have a version in place which is higher than 5.6, I'd remove
all older versions, and not worry about the newer ones, on dialup.

Yes--they are big--worth freeing up the disk space, and also worth
downloading someplace that has the higher speed connection, if possible.

--
 
OldRebel2 said:
Five hours is outrageous! I downloaded the offline installation version of
Java 6 installer ON DIALUP (using AOL) and it took less than an hour. I used
the Sun Download Manager so I could pause and restart the download if
necessary. I don't know which download manager you're using, if any, but the
MSN dialup download manager seemed extremely slow to me when I had it
recently. Good luck.
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OldRebel2, I didn't try to install version 6, so I didn't use any download
manager. I followed the link posted by Chris Wood in the earlier post
regarding version 6. I saw the offline installation was 53MB and used the
estimator tool offered by Sun and the results at my speed showed 5 hours
plus. I plan on removing 1.4.2 but will wait until offered the update 5.10
and go from there.
 
Hi Bill,

After reading the starter topic from suebee, I figured I'd give Secunia a
try. I went to http://secunia.com/software_inspector and clicked the "Start
Now" radio button. I immediately received a message telling me that I didn't
have Java installed, and I should go to www.java.com to get the latest
version of Java.

Okay, so off to www.java.com I went and downloaded and installed Version
1.5.0 (build 1.5.0_09-b03), and rebooted my PC. I've now gone back to
http://secunia.com/software_inspector and clicked the "Start Now" radio
button. I'm STILL getting the message that I don't have Java installed, and
I should go to www.java.com to get the latest version of Java.

Am I missing something?

Alan
 
Hi Alan;

I think many people have trouble occasionally with the Java
installations... I know I have in the past. Usually I try the online
installation first and if that doesn't work there is a manual offline
installation that was suggested as a fix and which I've used in conjunction
with the Java Version test at this same URL below. That's not a great
answer I know, but you might give it a try. The problem is unless your on
broadband the offline download for 5.0 update 9 is a whopping 15.74 Meg...
but it's the full download, and I believe the online download can grow
beyond it's initial 7.1 MB depending on features selected anyway, but
others may have additional suggestions. Here's the link I've used:

http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
 
Alan said:
Hi Bill,

After reading the starter topic from suebee, I figured I'd give Secunia a
try. I went to http://secunia.com/software_inspector and clicked the "Start
Now" radio button. I immediately received a message telling me that I didn't
have Java installed, and I should go to www.java.com to get the latest
version of Java.

Okay, so off to www.java.com I went and downloaded and installed Version
1.5.0 (build 1.5.0_09-b03), and rebooted my PC. I've now gone back to
http://secunia.com/software_inspector and clicked the "Start Now" radio
button. I'm STILL getting the message that I don't have Java installed, and
I should go to www.java.com to get the latest version of Java.

Am I missing something?
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I hope that was http://java.sun.com/

Is it being blocked by your firewall?

Bob Vanderveen
 
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