Search WebBot component

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Hi,
I have a website running on an IIS 5.0 (on a Win2000)
server with Front Page extensions installed. We are
running a Front Page webbot search that is querying the
indexing service off of IIS. The problem is this: when
querying through IIS indexing service, we will get a hit
rate of say 4876 occurances when searching through 75504
pages - which seems to be right when we cross check with
Google (4830 occurances because Google hasn't picked up
the latest occurances yet). However, when we attempt to
run the search from the web page, we are only given 230
results. So I queried the web through Front Page and got
46627 instances in 3679 pages out of 17452 pages. There
seems to be a considerable discrepancy here. How can I
sync all of this together properly? Thank you in advance.
 
-----Original Message-----
Hi,
I have a website running on an IIS 5.0 (on a Win2000)
server with Front Page extensions installed. We are
running a Front Page webbot search that is querying the
indexing service off of IIS. The problem is this: when
querying through IIS indexing service, we will get a hit
rate of say 4876 occurances when searching through 75504
pages -
Click to expand...

Did you run this search from IIS Manager? If not, what?
which seems to be right when we cross check with
Google (4830 occurances because Google hasn't picked up
the latest occurances yet). However, when we attempt to
run the search from the web page, we are only given 230
results.
Click to expand...

Was this from a page containing a Web Search componnent,
which you saved and then browsed?

If so, did you create this page on the machine running
Indexing Service, or did you create it and then publish to
the lication you tested?

If you did a create, publish, test, were both machines
runing Indexing Service, and did they both use the same
catalog name?
So I queried the web through Front Page and got
46627 instances in 3679 pages out of 17452 pages.
Click to expand...

Do you mean here that you did an Edit, Find in the
FrontPage desktop software?

Unlike Indexing Service, this won't search subsebs.
There seems to be a considerable discrepancy here. How
can I sync all of this together properly? Thank you in
advance.
Click to expand...

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
(e-mail address removed)
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
*------------------------------------------------------*
|\----------------------------------------------------/|
|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out ||
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out ||
|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition ||
|| Troubleshooting Microsoft FrontPage 2002 ||
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming ||
|| (All from Microsoft Press) ||
|/----------------------------------------------------\|
*------------------------------------------------------*
 
Hi Jim,

1. Yes - I ran this search from IIS manager.
2. Yes - this was from a page containing a Web Search
componnent which I saved and then browsed.
3. No - we do not typically build pages directly on the
server. These were made and then published from another
location.
4. Yes - for troubleshooting, we created the page from the
server in Front Page.
5. Yes - I did an Edit, Find in the FrontPage desktop
software.
 
In the Online web make sure your Search is using the Index catalog instead of WAIS (in search properties) and Run a tools
recalculate hyperlinks
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| Hi Jim,
|
| 1. Yes - I ran this search from IIS manager.
| 2. Yes - this was from a page containing a Web Search
| componnent which I saved and then browsed.
| 3. No - we do not typically build pages directly on the
| server. These were made and then published from another
| location.
| 4. Yes - for troubleshooting, we created the page from the
| server in Front Page.
| 5. Yes - I did an Edit, Find in the FrontPage desktop
| software.
|
| >-----Original Message-----
| >
| >>-----Original Message-----
| >>Hi,
| >>I have a website running on an IIS 5.0 (on a Win2000)
| >>server with Front Page extensions installed. We are
| >>running a Front Page webbot search that is querying the
| >>indexing service off of IIS. The problem is this: when
| >>querying through IIS indexing service, we will get a hit
| >>rate of say 4876 occurances when searching through 75504
| >>pages -
| >
| >Did you run this search from IIS Manager? If not, what?
| >
| >>which seems to be right when we cross check with
| >>Google (4830 occurances because Google hasn't picked up
| >>the latest occurances yet). However, when we attempt to
| >>run the search from the web page, we are only given 230
| >>results.
| >
| >Was this from a page containing a Web Search componnent,
| >which you saved and then browsed?
| >
| >If so, did you create this page on the machine running
| >Indexing Service, or did you create it and then publish
| to
| >the lication you tested?
| >
| >If you did a create, publish, test, were both machines
| >runing Indexing Service, and did they both use the same
| >catalog name?
| >
| >>So I queried the web through Front Page and got
| >>46627 instances in 3679 pages out of 17452 pages.
| >
| >Do you mean here that you did an Edit, Find in the
| >FrontPage desktop software?
| >
| >Unlike Indexing Service, this won't search subsebs.
| >
| >>There seems to be a considerable discrepancy here. How
| >>can I sync all of this together properly? Thank you in
| >>advance.
| >
| >Jim Buyens
| >Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| >[email protected]
| >http://www.interlacken.com
| >Author of:
| >*------------------------------------------------------*
| >|\----------------------------------------------------/|
| >|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out ||
| >|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out ||
| >|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition ||
| >|| Troubleshooting Microsoft FrontPage 2002 ||
| >|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming ||
| >|| (All from Microsoft Press) ||
| >|/----------------------------------------------------\|
| >*------------------------------------------------------*
| >
| >.
| >
 
John said:
Hi Jim,

1. Yes - I ran this search from IIS manager.
2. Yes - this was from a page containing a Web Search
componnent which I saved and then browsed.
3. No - we do not typically build pages directly on the
server. These were made and then published from another
location.
4. Yes - for troubleshooting, we created the page from the
server in Front Page.
5. Yes - I did an Edit, Find in the FrontPage desktop
software.
Click to expand...

Because your server contains 17452 page, I presume (nay, pray) you've
broken them into many subwebs.

Doing an Edit, Find in the FrontPage desktop software only searches
Web pages in the current Web. An Indexing Service query searches all
the documents in the entire tree, ignoring subweb boundaries. This
probably accounts for the difference in occurrences found.

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
(e-mail address removed)
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
*------------------------------------------------------*
|\----------------------------------------------------/|
|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out ||
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out ||
|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition ||
|| Troubleshooting Microsoft FrontPage 2002 ||
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming ||
|| (All from Microsoft Press) ||
|/----------------------------------------------------\|
*------------------------------------------------------*
 
Thanks for your reply. The online web is using the index
catalog and not WAIS. Attempting to recalculate hyperlinks
does not complete; inetinfo.exe starts eating all
available resources, the recalculation ends in
error "cannot locate web server on port 80", and the only
way to clear the inetinfo.exe is to re-boot the server.

-----Original Message-----
In the Online web make sure your Search is using the
Click to expand...
Index catalog instead of WAIS (in search properties) and
Run a tools
 
Consider creating separate index catalogs and breaking your site into
subwebs.

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