SD Card Reader problem

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I have XP MCE 2005 with SP3, on a DELL Inspiron 6000, with a built in SD
Card Reader.
On 4/28 I totally reloaded the system with the OEM XP SP2 CD. Applied
the downloaded SP3, not WU, then applied IE7,WMP11 and other updates and
my software applications and restored data.
Hey the PC works great.

I have a 4 gig SD chip in the drive that just kinda stays there and I
have a batch file I run routinely to backup strategic files. Works
great. And to tell you the truth, I don't know when this started as I
usually don't take the card out of the machine.

When I boot, with or without the card in, it works. Either its there
when I boot as a hard drive, or when I insert it, I get the ding dong
and the drive appears. All's well so far. If I remove it I again get
the ding dong and it disappears.

Now the problem. If I re-insert it again or another card, I don't get
the ding dong, but a dong dong. And I say it that way as the normal
sound is two different tones but the 2nd insert it is the lower pitched
sound two (maybe 3) times. And if I look in device manager the SD
Memory Card has the yellow ! beside it and the error is:
Windows cannot load the device driver for this hardware because a
previous instance of the device driver is still in memory. (Code 38)

Found the code 38 on MS but it just says run the troubleshooter..
Thanks MS. That's no help.

I've uninstalled the sd memory card and then let XP search for hardware,
and it finds it, installs it and has me reboot. After the reboot it
finishes and asks for one more reboot. But all this solves nothing.

I've even tried going into properties and setting the drive to quick
disconnect (or whatever that wording is in the properties). I read
that it just bypasses the write cache but it should make removing the
card easier if not safer.

I swear this used to work under SP2, I have a 2 gig chip in my camera
and I normally flip these around of course to read the camera chip. Not
often but I do every 2 weeks or so when I do a photo shoot.

I just thought I'd ask before trying the link for the free SP3 support
tomorrow. I've googled and searched MS but don't find a thing.
 
I have XP MCE 2005 with SP3, on a DELL Inspiron 6000, with a built in SD
Card Reader.
On 4/28 I totally reloaded the system with the OEM XP SP2 CD.  Applied
the downloaded SP3, not WU, then applied IE7,WMP11 and other updates and
my software applications and restored data.
Hey the PC works great.

I have a 4 gig SD chip in the drive that just kinda stays there and I
have a batch file I run routinely to backup strategic files.   Works
great.   And to tell you the truth, I don't know when this started as I
usually don't take the card out of the machine.

When I boot, with or without the card in, it works.  Either its there
when I boot as a hard drive, or when I insert it, I get the ding dong
and the drive appears.  All's well so far.   If I remove it I again get
the ding dong and it disappears.

Now the problem.  If I re-insert it again or another card, I don't get
the ding dong, but a dong dong.   And I say it that way as the normal
sound is two different tones but the 2nd insert it is the lower pitched
sound two (maybe 3) times.    And if I look in device manager the SD
Memory Card has the yellow ! beside it and the error is:
Windows cannot load the device driver for this hardware because a
previous instance of the device driver is still in memory. (Code 38)

Found the code 38 on MS but it just says run the troubleshooter..
Thanks MS.   That's no help.

I've uninstalled the sd memory card and then let XP search for hardware,
and it finds it, installs it and has me reboot.  After the reboot it
finishes and asks for one more reboot.   But all this solves nothing.

I've even tried going into properties and setting the drive to quick
disconnect (or whatever that wording is in the properties).   I read
that it just bypasses the write cache but it should make removing the
card easier if not safer.

I swear this used to work under SP2, I have a 2 gig chip in my camera
and I normally flip these around of course to read the camera chip.  Not
often but I do every 2 weeks or so when I do a photo shoot.

I just thought I'd ask before trying the link for the free SP3 support
tomorrow.   I've googled and searched MS but don't find a thing.
Click to expand...

First thing that needs to be clarified is that a 4GB SD card is really
a 4GB SDHC and you need to have a compatible SDHC card reader. SDHC
readers can read older SD cards, which most 2GB SDs are.
 
Big said:
I have XP MCE 2005 with SP3, on a DELL Inspiron 6000, with a built in SD
Card Reader.
On 4/28 I totally reloaded the system with the OEM XP SP2 CD. Applied
the downloaded SP3, not WU, then applied IE7,WMP11 and other updates and
my software applications and restored data.
Hey the PC works great.

I have a 4 gig SD chip in the drive that just kinda stays there and I
have a batch file I run routinely to backup strategic files. Works
great. And to tell you the truth, I don't know when this started as I
usually don't take the card out of the machine.

When I boot, with or without the card in, it works. Either its there
when I boot as a hard drive, or when I insert it, I get the ding dong
and the drive appears. All's well so far. If I remove it I again get
the ding dong and it disappears.

Now the problem. If I re-insert it again or another card, I don't get
the ding dong, but a dong dong. And I say it that way as the normal
sound is two different tones but the 2nd insert it is the lower pitched
sound two (maybe 3) times. And if I look in device manager the SD
Memory Card has the yellow ! beside it and the error is:
Windows cannot load the device driver for this hardware because a
previous instance of the device driver is still in memory. (Code 38)

Found the code 38 on MS but it just says run the troubleshooter.. Thanks
MS. That's no help.

I've uninstalled the sd memory card and then let XP search for hardware,
and it finds it, installs it and has me reboot. After the reboot it
finishes and asks for one more reboot. But all this solves nothing.

I've even tried going into properties and setting the drive to quick
disconnect (or whatever that wording is in the properties). I read
that it just bypasses the write cache but it should make removing the
card easier if not safer.

I swear this used to work under SP2, I have a 2 gig chip in my camera
and I normally flip these around of course to read the camera chip. Not
often but I do every 2 weeks or so when I do a photo shoot.

I just thought I'd ask before trying the link for the free SP3 support
tomorrow. I've googled and searched MS but don't find a thing.
Click to expand...

For anyone that is interested, seems MS played with the PC for a while,
uninstalled the SD Memory Card in device mgr and had me reboot.
I never got a "new hardware found" but it's working.
And their suggestion is to ALWAYS use the 'safely remove hardware' icon
in the tool try. I've removed the chip this way about 4 times and it
works every time now.

Its a deviation from the old SP2 performance, but it works. I guess its
more 'by the book'. I kinda like the old way where I could just eject
the chip and then insert another, but I can live with a new procedure.
Guess I'm going to have to.
 
smlunatick said:
First thing that needs to be clarified is that a 4GB SD card is really
a 4GB SDHC and you need to have a compatible SDHC card reader. SDHC
readers can read older SD cards, which most 2GB SDs are.
Click to expand...
Its a good reader and all. But yes, its a 4GB SDHC card. Prior to
SP3 I had received a patch from Microsoft to make the reader work. It
would not see the card at all. SP3 includes this hotfix, I was sure
to test that when I loaded it on day one. And the reader works on the
first insert of a card too, it was just pulling it out and putting it
back in that was throwing me.

See my solution I just posted. It seems to be fixed.
 
For anyone that is interested, seems MS played with the PC for a while,
uninstalled the SD Memory Card in device mgr and had me reboot.
I never got a "new hardware found" but it's working.
And their suggestion is to ALWAYS use the 'safely remove hardware' icon
in the tool try.   I've removed the chip this way about 4 times and it
works every time now.

Its a deviation from the old SP2 performance, but it works.  I guess its
more 'by the book'.   I kinda like the old way where I could just eject
the chip and then insert another, but I can live with a new procedure.
  Guess I'm going to have to.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Click to expand...

Right Click on th "SD card reader" icon

Select -> Properties

Select Hardware tab

Locate card reader entry

Click on Properties

Select Policy tab

You should be able to configure now the

Write caching and Safe Removal
 
Right Click on th "SD card reader" icon

Select -> Properties

Select Hardware tab

Locate card reader entry

Click on Properties

Select Policy tab

You should be able to configure now the

Write caching and Safe Removal- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Click to expand...

Also, you can also Right Click on the drive icon and "eject" the media
card, like CD / DVD / floppy media.
 
smlunatick said:
Right Click on th "SD card reader" icon

Select -> Properties

Select Hardware tab

Locate card reader entry

Click on Properties

Select Policy tab

You should be able to configure now the

Write caching and Safe Removal
Click to expand...
I did this thinking it would allow me to skip the 'safe removal tool'
but that did not work either. Its set that way, but I have to do the
'safe removal' thing anyway. Couldn't seem to convey that to MS.
 
Big Al said:
I have XP MCE 2005 with SP3, on a DELL Inspiron 6000, with a built in SD
Card Reader.
On 4/28 I totally reloaded the system with the OEM XP SP2 CD. Applied the
downloaded SP3, not WU, then applied IE7,WMP11 and other updates and my
software applications and restored data.
Hey the PC works great.

I have a 4 gig SD chip in the drive that just kinda stays there and I have
a batch file I run routinely to backup strategic files. Works great.
And to tell you the truth, I don't know when this started as I usually
don't take the card out of the machine.
Click to expand...
A 4GB SD card is an SDHC card as SD cards only go up to 2GB. The chances are
your card reader isn't SDHC compatible, I don't think that the SD card slot
on either of my PCs are SDHC compatible.
You will need to go out & buy an SDHC card reader.
Mike.
 
A 4GB SD card is an SDHC card as SD cards only go up to 2GB. The chances are
your card reader isn't SDHC compatible, I don't think that the SD card slot
on either of my PCs are SDHC compatible.
You will need to go out & buy an SDHC card reader.
Mike.
Click to expand...
If you are running XP SP2, you might want to download this, if not at
least read it.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923293

This is in SP3 but fixed my reader to read the 4 Gig SDHC chip.
 
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