Scsi disk not seen

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Hello,
I have an IBM Inellistation Pro M. It came with 2 drives installed.
Currently, they are ID'd as 1 & 2. Apparently, 0 was left open. I tried to
install a new drive. I have it installed on 4. However, it does not show up
in My Computer or in Windwos Explorer. It does appear in Disk Manager, and I
formatted it from there. It is marked Active and is healthly. I am able to
right click it from Disk Manager and move files to it. However, it is still
not showing up in My Computer or Windows Explorer.
Any help would be appreciated. I am too chicken to commit suicide!
Thank you,
MoJR
 
MoJR said:
Hello,
I have an IBM Inellistation Pro M. It came with 2 drives installed.
Currently, they are ID'd as 1 & 2. Apparently, 0 was left open. I tried to
install a new drive. I have it installed on 4. However, it does not show up
in My Computer or in Windwos Explorer. It does appear in Disk Manager, and I
formatted it from there. It is marked Active and is healthly. I am able to
right click it from Disk Manager and move files to it. However, it is still
not showing up in My Computer or Windows Explorer.
Any help would be appreciated. I am too chicken to commit suicide!



In disk management you need to assign it a drive letter
 
philo,
Good try. However, I had already assigned a drive letter. But, I changed it
to see if it made a difference. It did not.
MoJR
 
MoJR said:
philo,
Good try. However, I had already assigned a drive letter. But, I changed it
to see if it made a difference. It did not.
MoJR

Well it has to be in explorer somewhere...
as if you can write data to the drive from disk management...
explorer comes up (thus enabling you to do so)
 
If your "not" planing on installing an OS to the primary active partition you
have created, why not just create a big extended with a logical partition or
partitions..? If a drive letter is assignable can you in a DOS box, run
chkdsk /f on the drive..?

You say it came with, are you the original owner, bought it new/used..?
Did you set the jumpers on the HDD correctly..?
Cheers
j;-j
 
MoJR said:
Hello,
I have an IBM Inellistation Pro M. It came with 2 drives installed.
Currently, they are ID'd as 1 & 2. Apparently, 0 was left open. I tried to
install a new drive. I have it installed on 4. However, it does not show up
in My Computer or in Windwos Explorer. It does appear in Disk Manager, and I
formatted it from there. It is marked Active and is healthly. I am able to
right click it from Disk Manager and move files to it. However, it is still
not showing up in My Computer or Windows Explorer.
Any help would be appreciated. I am too chicken to commit suicide!
Thank you,
MoJR

Have you rebooted the machine after formatting the drive?

You don't mention the Model number, I see that IBM has a couple for the M Pro
series.
You don't mention what type of HD you installed, if it's internal/external,
connected to an add-on adapter, the only drive on the data cable or a second drive
added to that cable, or what the drives jumper setting is.
You don't mention what format you used, the size of the drive or whether it was
partitioned.
How was it installed as Device 4 and what happened to Device 3?

From what I see at IBMs support site the M Pro series have SCSI harddrives
installed and a diagnostic program which only works for SCSI drives. From what I
read it doesn't support any other type of drive, which by no means would mean your
new installed drive wouldn't work.


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Brian,
The machine has been rebooted. It was not rebooted immediately after
formatting but has been 2 or 3 times since. The model is a 622916U. All Hd's
are internal. They are connected by a single SCSI adapter. The drive in
question is the third device in the chain. The drive is an IBM but
manufactured by Seagate. Neither manufacturer has spec's listed for this
drive. I was able to find similar drives on the Seagate site and looked at
the jumpe setttings available. They all were set in the same way. I used
those settings on the drive in question. Number 4 was chosen because those
were the choices available according to the documentation I found. The drive
has a set of jumpers on the front end. According to the documentation, the
choices for this are 1,2,4 and 8. 1 is in use. 2 is in use. 4 was the next
available setting. Currently, the SCSI chain is terminated at both ends. As
far as I can tell, the adapter terminates it on one end and there is a black
block installed on the other end after the last drive. The drive in question
is installed as the third drive at the third connector of 4. the drive has a
single Primary Partion of 17.94gb. It was partitioned as NTFS with the 512k
setting. I bought this machine from a recycling center called EPC. It did
not have a diagnostic program installed. I have been reluctant to mess around
too much. Installing this ancillary drive has been a whole lot more than I
anticipated.
If you need more info, please let me know.
MoJR
 
Brian,
There was one other piece of info. The name for the drive that comes up in
Device Manager is IBM-ESXS ST318305LW !#SCSI Disk Device. I thought the !#
bit was a little strange. Could this be causing XP to not recognize it?
MoJR
 
http://pdf.superwarehouse.com/specs/DSIBMSTN107579.pdf
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/education/cust/xseries/
Found this stuff, not much on this discontinued model though.. It's been
withdrawn evidently from the IBM USA site, a world wide search proved to be
only fruitless too.. It seems your rig can be had for about $175 bucks, way
over priced at that.. Hope you didn't have to pay much or at least got the
setup disk and manual for it.. Might try e-bay for a manual if you don't have
one..? Looks like the SCSI controller may be on a PCI adapter, may also
include EIDE support as well off the mobo.. Might just need to properly ID
the jumper settings.. Try using a magnifying glass to see if there are any M,
S, CS etchings or the like near the jumper pin(s) area..? SCSI's are very
dated anyway, you won't find many if any retail replacements nowadays.. Try
your luck here http://www.ibm.com/support/us/ or adjust the search for what
ever part of the world you may live in..
Good luck..
Cheers
j;-j
 
Brian,
Thank you for the help. I'll use the magnifying glass as you suggested. I'm
thinking it may be a jumper setting as well. I was going to burn some cd's
last night and when I opened the Look In window the 'G' drive, the drive in
question was there and I could access the one file I had transfered earlier
through the disk manager.
Hopefully, someone else may have an idea as well.
Thank you,
MoJR
 
FANTASTIC NEWS,
THE SCSI DRIVE NOT BEING SEEN BY WIN XP IS NOW OPERATING PER EXPECTATIONS.
THE PROBLEM LAY WITH THE DRIVE LETTER I SELECTED. I ARBITRARILY SELECTED 'G'
AS THE NEXT DRIVE LETTER AFTER MY 2 CD ROMS LABLED 'E' AND 'F'. WHEN RENAMED
THEM, THE CD ROM LABELED 'G' WAS NOT REPRESENTED IN MY COMPUTER. VOILA!!
NEXT QUESTION. DOES ANYONE HAVE AN IDEA WHY THIS PHENOMENON MAY HAVE
OCURRED. I AM LOOKING AT POTENTIAL PROBLEM DOWN THE ROAD?
ANY SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE APPRECIATED!
THANK YOU PHILO, BRIAN A AND JAYMON FOR YOUR SUGGESTIONS AND EFFORTS!
HAVE A WONDERFUL WEEK!!
MoJR
 
MoJR said:
FANTASTIC NEWS,
THE SCSI DRIVE NOT BEING SEEN BY WIN XP IS NOW OPERATING PER EXPECTATIONS.
THE PROBLEM LAY WITH THE DRIVE LETTER I SELECTED. I ARBITRARILY SELECTED 'G'
AS THE NEXT DRIVE LETTER AFTER MY 2 CD ROMS LABLED 'E' AND 'F'. WHEN RENAMED
THEM, THE CD ROM LABELED 'G' WAS NOT REPRESENTED IN MY COMPUTER. VOILA!!
NEXT QUESTION. DOES ANYONE HAVE AN IDEA WHY THIS PHENOMENON MAY HAVE
OCURRED. I AM LOOKING AT POTENTIAL PROBLEM DOWN THE ROAD?
ANY SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE APPRECIATED!
THANK YOU PHILO, BRIAN A AND JAYMON FOR YOUR SUGGESTIONS AND EFFORTS!
HAVE A WONDERFUL WEEK!!
MoJR



Hey I knew you'd figured it out.
Though I don't know why that happened...I doubt you will have any more
problems.
 
philop,
My ecstacy is short lived. I re-named my cd-roms as I said. However, now
only 1 shows up. In some screen I was in it said there was an unknown cdr
installed. However, that's the only reference. It's wierd because I am
copying cd's just fine.
Well, I guess I'll beg for help and hopefully someone will throw me a bone.
Have a good week.
MoJR
 
MoJR said:
philop,
My ecstacy is short lived. I re-named my cd-roms as I said. However, now
only 1 shows up. In some screen I was in it said there was an unknown cdr
installed. However, that's the only reference. It's wierd because I am
copying cd's just fine.
Well, I guess I'll beg for help and hopefully someone will throw me a bone.
Have a good week.
MoJR


Although I don't have a clue as to what's wrong...
I'm sure you will get it figured out somehow :)
 
phil,
I did get it figured out, sort of. I downloaded Tweak UI to get rid of the
shortcut arrows on my desk top. While was in it I decided to see what popped
up under Drives. There, the drive was listed as letter 'K'. The rest of the
letters not currently being used had question marks by them. Anyway, the
drive shows up in all the right places.
Thank you,
MoJR
 
Put the last scsi device of the chain on the end of the internal scsi cable.
Put the termination on this hard drive, should be a jumper on the hard
drive.
A termination block is meant for externals, usually a scanner without active
termination if needed.
 
MoJR said:
phil,
I did get it figured out, sort of. I downloaded Tweak UI to get rid of the
shortcut arrows on my desk top. While was in it I decided to see what popped
up under Drives. There, the drive was listed as letter 'K'. The rest of the
letters not currently being used had question marks by them. Anyway, the
drive shows up in all the right places.
Thank you,
MoJR



Don't know why you thanked me...*you* did all the figuring out :)

Glad you did though!
 
For future reference - if you jumper 1 and 2 you get 3, 1 and 4 gets you
5, 2 & 4 = 6 and so on.
 
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