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Taylor

I have uploaded a web page and it looks correct on my
computer. However, the content is completely re-arranged
when I view it from another computer. What am I missing
to make it look the same on any computer?
 
I'm not sure this is good advise any more. A number of major sites, ESPN for
example, are doing CSS layouts for the added speed and simplicity of the web
site.
 
H0w does FP handle CSS-P? Can you build that way in FP?? I just wonder how
many FP users that come here are really conversant with up-to-date CSS?
Eleanor
 
Remove all references to Absolute Positioning and use tables to structure
your page layout will solve this problem.

Example from your page:

<div style="position: absolute; left: 31; top: 41; width: 313; height: 55">

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Sure, but apparently the don't know anything about tables either. So why not
learn CSS layout and it is no more difficult than tables and much easier to
maintain and change.
 
I built the site the first time completely in tables and
the items on the page kept re-positioning themselves when
the window was increased or decreased in width. The
absolute positioning solved that problem on my computer
and my friends said it was better. However, I went to a
public computer and the problems were still there. Any
advice would be appreciated.
 
Use tables set to a overall width of 750 pixels
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what is CSS?
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Sure, but apparently the don't know anything about tables either. So why not
learn CSS layout and it is no more difficult than tables and much easier to
maintain and change.
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E. T. Culling said:
H0w does FP handle CSS-P? Can you build that way in FP?? I just wonder how
many FP users that come here are really conversant with up-to-date CSS?
Eleanor
MD WebsUnlimited.com said:
I'm not sure this is good advise any more. A number
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of major sites, ESPN
for
example, are doing CSS layouts for the added speed
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and simplicity of the
web
site.

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did, don't. Use
tables

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Cascading Style Sheets (CSS)

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Ok...what is it? Where can I find it?
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Cascading Style Sheets (CSS)

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See:
http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/

You will have to manually learn how to use CSS or get TopStyle
http://www.bradsoft.com/topstyle/

I think you will find table easier to use, and all browsers currently
support tables, so there is no reason not to start or to continue to use
them, but also should learn about CSS.
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Did you see this reply by Thomas:
Remove all references to Absolute Positioning and use tables to structure
your page layout will solve this problem.

Example from your page:

<div style="position: absolute; left: 31; top: 41; width: 313; height: 55">
Eleanor
 
You'll have to go a long way to convince me that learning CSS-P is no more
difficult than using tables. Go look at any CSS forum to see all the
questions about this matter. Many now recommend (except for the most
advanced) to use CSS for everything except the P part!!
Eleanor
Give me a quick lesson on building with CSS-P in FrontPage 2002.
 
E.T.,

Tables are bad because:

1. They result in load times that are longer than necessary.

Web browsers are designed to download the entire table before it can be
rendered.

2. They encourage the use of inefficient "placeholder graphics" that further
slow performance.

Transparent gif images are used to permanently space cell content.

3. There maintenance can be a nightmare in which even minor changes "break"
the entire layout.

Maintaining a complex array of deeply nested tables is a nightmare. This is
especially true of FP where it does not support
table based design. DW and GL both handle table layout for the designer and
make it easier to use but CSS is still superior.

By using CSS you remove all of the above and provide a better design
environment. You remove presentation from content.

Lesson to follow.
 
Thanks, I look forward to the lesson...
Eleanor
MD WebsUnlimited.com said:
E.T.,

Tables are bad because:

1. They result in load times that are longer than necessary.

Web browsers are designed to download the entire table before it can be
rendered.

2. They encourage the use of inefficient "placeholder graphics" that further
slow performance.

Transparent gif images are used to permanently space cell content.

3. There maintenance can be a nightmare in which even minor changes "break"
the entire layout.

Maintaining a complex array of deeply nested tables is a nightmare. This is
especially true of FP where it does not support
table based design. DW and GL both handle table layout for the designer and
make it easier to use but CSS is still superior.

By using CSS you remove all of the above and provide a better design
environment. You remove presentation from content.

Lesson to follow.

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What you say may be fine... but certainly not for the questioner who in this
case didn't even know what CSS is! To my knowledge FrontPage doesn't make
CSS-P easy to accomplish... but I'll await your lesson.
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